Thread: Why are you staying natty?
07-06-2022, 12:33 PM
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1) it's a felony
To get popped you have to be an absolute idiot, barely even on LEs radar (not to mention half of LEOs are on them as well)
2) you don't know what you are getting, was your stuff made in a bathtub then smuggled in some guys ass? Probably. What are the long term effects of injecting this crap into yourself, we dont know
Like anything else there are good and bad UGLs, not hard to find the good ones if you have connections or know where to look. If you are that concerned, you can get it third party tested. If you stick to basic compounds, we have 60+ years of case studies on the long term effects.
3) Negative health effects - YES, ask a real doc who works in this field, androgens cause a number of problems, mainly being cardiovascular, Misc docs will say otherwise but they are uneducated, watch the "anabolicdoc" on youtube, an actual MD who works with the roid population.
Yes, they can cause negative health effects, no argument here. However so can fast food, drinking, sports, and tons of other things us humans do for pleasure, up to the individual to weigh the risk-reward. The risk can be mitigated by being knowledgeable and keeping your use moderate and intelligent as well as keeping up with your bloods.
4) Constant pinning - not fun, if you are doing it right you are injecting every 2-3 days to keep your levels optimal, after 8-12 weeks this sucks
Yes, pinning sucks, not even going to argue this one.
5) Post cycle depression - you can't stay on forever, but you will miss it when you are not on, this can lead to very negative mental health
You can stay on forever, it’s called blast and cruise. If you cycle, proper PCT makes coming off manageable for most. Maybe a week or two sucks before you start feeling normal again. As long as you keep your diet and intensity in the gym up, you can keep more gains than people think.
6) Potential for total natty test shutdown/reduced ability to have kids
Clomid and HCG makes infertility for even long term users very unlikely but of course not impossible. Again, up to the individual to weigh the risk reward on this matter. For someone like me who doesn’t want kids, non issue. As far as permanent shut down, same thing, highly unlikely if you are doing reasonable cycles and irrelevant if you go to blast and cruise.
To get popped you have to be an absolute idiot, barely even on LEs radar (not to mention half of LEOs are on them as well)
2) you don't know what you are getting, was your stuff made in a bathtub then smuggled in some guys ass? Probably. What are the long term effects of injecting this crap into yourself, we dont know
Like anything else there are good and bad UGLs, not hard to find the good ones if you have connections or know where to look. If you are that concerned, you can get it third party tested. If you stick to basic compounds, we have 60+ years of case studies on the long term effects.
3) Negative health effects - YES, ask a real doc who works in this field, androgens cause a number of problems, mainly being cardiovascular, Misc docs will say otherwise but they are uneducated, watch the "anabolicdoc" on youtube, an actual MD who works with the roid population.
Yes, they can cause negative health effects, no argument here. However so can fast food, drinking, sports, and tons of other things us humans do for pleasure, up to the individual to weigh the risk-reward. The risk can be mitigated by being knowledgeable and keeping your use moderate and intelligent as well as keeping up with your bloods.
4) Constant pinning - not fun, if you are doing it right you are injecting every 2-3 days to keep your levels optimal, after 8-12 weeks this sucks
Yes, pinning sucks, not even going to argue this one.
5) Post cycle depression - you can't stay on forever, but you will miss it when you are not on, this can lead to very negative mental health
You can stay on forever, it’s called blast and cruise. If you cycle, proper PCT makes coming off manageable for most. Maybe a week or two sucks before you start feeling normal again. As long as you keep your diet and intensity in the gym up, you can keep more gains than people think.
6) Potential for total natty test shutdown/reduced ability to have kids
Clomid and HCG makes infertility for even long term users very unlikely but of course not impossible. Again, up to the individual to weigh the risk reward on this matter. For someone like me who doesn’t want kids, non issue. As far as permanent shut down, same thing, highly unlikely if you are doing reasonable cycles and irrelevant if you go to blast and cruise.
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07-06-2022, 12:34 PM
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07-06-2022, 12:34 PM
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Can that increase risk of cancer/tumor development? Had a buddy who nearly died recently. Apparently after a few tour de frances, some cancer cells or undetected tumors in his body didn't respond too well.
I'm no doc, just what I was told.
I'm no doc, just what I was told.
07-06-2022, 12:47 PM
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i ran a cycle in aug 2011 but have been natty since then. i'm 32 years old now and feel like i could get it as a script, but my levels are still in the 900 range when i went for my annual last year.
07-06-2022, 12:50 PM
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07-06-2022, 12:52 PM
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07-06-2022, 12:56 PM
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I gained 20 lbs of pure muscle going celltech. 170 to like 200 lbs but now work a job ive always wanted so no time for pct/test suppression.
Might do a 6 weeks sarm cycle once im going back to school
Might do a 6 weeks sarm cycle once im going back to school
07-06-2022, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By QuickShotSteve⏩
I see ads for trt all the time now, cream and injections.lot of trt clinics now also prescribe anavar & deca. Probably safest way to get on gear, they require blood tests every 6 months.
I think that is the best/safest way to get on gear, too much chinese made SARMs or fake gear that you get from some rando in the gym.
Search trt one time and next thing you know every other ad on ******** is a different TRT clinic, must be bigger business that you realize. Makes me wonder how many adults really are on test. Before I was on the MISC i never realized how many people are doing it.
I think that is the best/safest way to get on gear, too much chinese made SARMs or fake gear that you get from some rando in the gym.
Search trt one time and next thing you know every other ad on ******** is a different TRT clinic, must be bigger business that you realize. Makes me wonder how many adults really are on test. Before I was on the MISC i never realized how many people are doing it.
07-06-2022, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By steeler505⏩
The fuk? Half the gym is on gear. How can you not find it?how tf did you even procure the chit though?
Anyway I'm natty for life because I don't really feel the need to become huge. So why risk it?
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07-06-2022, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By PrimarisIn⏩
No fukking way this is real tea. If I ever went on gear and still looked as chit as you do I would be getting my money back. D. F. S.I gained 20 lbs of pure muscle going celltech. 170 to like 200 lbs but now work a job ive always wanted so no time for pct/test suppression.
Might do a 6 weeks sarm cycle once im going back to school
Might do a 6 weeks sarm cycle once im going back to school
Personally my wife and I are still considering popping out another crotch goblin, and I would rather do things the old fashioned way than freeze my swimmers or hope they aren't affected. Soon as there is a bun in the oven or we decide 100% against it I'm gonna be hopping on so fast it'll make Wincel's head spin...
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07-06-2022, 01:22 PM
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- Different priorities regarding lifting than I used to have
- Ignorance and lack of knowledge about it on my part
- Less interest in an ultra muscular physique at this point
Having said that, I'd be interested in trying it some time for curiosity's sake, mostly to see how it feels physically in terms of energy, ability for enhanced recovery, etc. I think it would be an interesting experiment. Maybe some TRT or something.
- Ignorance and lack of knowledge about it on my part
- Less interest in an ultra muscular physique at this point
Having said that, I'd be interested in trying it some time for curiosity's sake, mostly to see how it feels physically in terms of energy, ability for enhanced recovery, etc. I think it would be an interesting experiment. Maybe some TRT or something.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
If you are 900 and good luck getting TRT, most docs do not give TRT even in the 300 range. I am sure the TRT paid clinics would.i ran a cycle in aug 2011 but have been natty since then. i'm 32 years old now and feel like i could get it as a script, but my levels are still in the 900 range when i went for my annual last year.
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07-06-2022, 01:29 PM
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no contests ever, and i like what i see from years of trying out strategies.
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Originally Posted By PrimarisIn⏩
but who was acneI gained 20 lbs of pure muscle going celltech. 170 to like 200 lbs but now work a job ive always wanted so no time for pct/test suppression.
Might do a 6 weeks sarm cycle once im going back to school
Might do a 6 weeks sarm cycle once im going back to school
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07-06-2022, 01:40 PM
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Mostly because I've been with my girl forever now. Feel no need to get mega juicy, would only lead to trouble TBH. I alrdy train hard. More focused on health, and finances than gaining mass and female attention.... at the moment
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07-06-2022, 01:43 PM
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Whywouldn'tI stay natty?
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
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They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
07-06-2022, 01:49 PM
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Cause I have aesthetic proportions and genetics even though skinny. Soccer player body is enough for most women
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At this point there are really only two reasons. The first is that I'm 33 and I've been natty for my whole life, which I think is cool so I don't really want to stop being natty. The second is that I'm scared on the sides (srs).
No matter how much people say they don't experience any sides because they know how to ride with proper form and whatnot, I just don't think that's possible, sorry. Plus, once you hop, there's no hoping off. Phuck that.
No matter how much people say they don't experience any sides because they know how to ride with proper form and whatnot, I just don't think that's possible, sorry. Plus, once you hop, there's no hoping off. Phuck that.
07-06-2022, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By lowkey94⏩
Small amounts are awesome mentally and physically.might be time to turn to the dark side
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Yeah. Signing yourself up for a lifetime of pinning trt every few days. It's like giving yourself the burden of real genetic diabetes with most guys looking barely above the natty limit.At this point there are really only two reasons. The first is that I'm 33 and I've been natty for my whole life, which I think is cool so I don't really want to stop being natty. The second is that I'm scared on the sides (srs).
No matter how much people say they don't experience any sides because they know how to ride with proper form and whatnot, I just don't think that's possible, sorry. Plus, once you hop, there's no hoping off. Phuck that.
No matter how much people say they don't experience any sides because they know how to ride with proper form and whatnot, I just don't think that's possible, sorry. Plus, once you hop, there's no hoping off. Phuck that.
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Originally Posted By MilkforBrains⏩
It's not for life. You can come off and recover your test levelsYeah. Signing yourself up for a lifetime of pinning trt every few days. It's like giving yourself the burden of real genetic diabetes with most guys looking barely above the natty limit.
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
You make it seem pretty simple. Isn't it a fairly long process assuming you've been riding for a couple years? What about growing bitch tits and other similarly non-dialed effects during that time as well?It's not for life. You can come off and recover your test levels
07-06-2022, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Isnt there risk of permanent shutdown even from one "normal" cycle? a small chance but still a chance i thought?It's not for life. You can come off and recover your test levels
07-06-2022, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
900 is a great range. What's your secret?i ran a cycle in aug 2011 but have been natty since then. i'm 32 years old now and feel like i could get it as a script, but my levels are still in the 900 range when i went for my annual last year.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Pretty much exactly all this.At this point there are really only two reasons. The first is that I'm 33 and I've been natty for my whole life, which I think is cool so I don't really want to stop being natty. The second is that I'm scared on the sides (srs).
No matter how much people say they don't experience any sides because they know how to ride with proper form and whatnot, I just don't think that's possible, sorry. Plus, once you hop, there's no hoping off. Phuck that.
No matter how much people say they don't experience any sides because they know how to ride with proper form and whatnot, I just don't think that's possible, sorry. Plus, once you hop, there's no hoping off. Phuck that.
Friend was also on dat dere and had a "special" baby. If that ever happened with a child of mine I would never be able to forgive myself and ask "what if" I just didn't use.
Looking huge just isn't a super big priority. I mostly just like to lift for fun at this point and as a nice mini mind break from the daily routine. That hour+ in the gym is mine and makes me look better than 95% of people my age, that's good enough for me.
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