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post 1664259983 07-12-2022, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted By TokenV
you're all over the place brah, my response was to your claim that you assumed you couldn't choose your hospital/dentist office which just isn't the case

also I'm not in the UK so I don't know how it works there

over here you can always get additional insurance for stuff like braces and dental work (but if it's is the result of something medical or chemo it's mostly covered already, but if it's purely for aesthetics it's not covered)

just curious, how much would a defibrillator or three-weekly dialysis visits set you back in the USA?
Wonderful. Belgium sucks. Better than Netherlands economically, but that's not saying much. Keep your health benefits. Enjoy it. Belgium sucks donkey dick along with the rest of You-Rope.
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Originally Posted By luckyboy23
The amount of imbeciles in this thread who have never stepped foot outside their bubble of a country is alarming. All these retarded poor country logic about healthcare this that. Smh. Just lol. No point in even wasting time reading or engaging. The United States has the best health care the globe has to offer. Can you and are you willing to pay for it? No? Tough luck, you're not entitled to it.

The retards ITT have a dependency on mommy (their government). Weak, losers, copemaxxers.

I'll say it again and it's the got dam truth: An illegal immigrant, undocumented, living in poverty has a higher quality of life than most of the planet. Non americans just aren't aware... This is coming from an immigrant. Been around the world. No place like home baby. Nothing feels more relieving than coming back to the U.S. after a trip abroad. Especially one involving multiple countries.

Canada, England/UK/All of Europe, Australia, China, Korea, Singapore.. All far and away behind. Waaaaay behind the United States. As a whole, as a package, light years behind. That's why the United State is the United States. King of the world. GOAT empire. On it's own continent, unattached to the polluted part of the world. Whoever descended here and fought off the old world did so for a great reason. Even with it's flaws. USA number 1. GOAT geography, and South America is just fine by me.


Not freedom, not independence, but more importantly.. L-I-B-E-R-T-Y. Liberty, in combination of independence and freedom.

Europe and Asia: Cesspool, short of small pockets and community.

If you're miserable in America, it's a personal problem.
Numbers say otherwise.

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End result : no progress.

People with half a brain explained why the numbers are what they are, the advantages of living in the US and advantages of living in Europe. Consensus was that neither was perfect.

You can't form any sort of argument based on facts even though numbers are supplied by the OP. You just scream and shet your pants like a retard. Emotional, anecdotal, nothing factual. Absolutely pathetic. Grow a fukking brain fgt. The USA is still great but braindead retards like you are part of the problem.
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Originally Posted By Midgetkiller
Numbers say otherwise.

Reaction : reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

End result : no progress.

People with half a brain explained why the numbers are what they are, the advantages of living in the US and advantages of living in Europe. Consensus was that neither was perfect.

You can't form any sort of argument based on facts even though numbers are supplied by the OP. You just scream and shet your pants like a retard. Emotional, anecdotal, nothing factual. Absolutely pathetic. Grow a fukking brain fgt. The USA is still great but braindead retards like you are part of the problem.
Didn't read past first line.

Numbers? Huh? Armchair basement dweller much? Go change your underwear and shave your neckbeard. You're fukkin with a pro. Go witness and live through your own eyes instead of sourcing mumbo jumbo on the internet.

COPE. Cope all you want to feel better about yourself so you can sleep at night. Nobody gives a chit. Your spending your time lying to yourself to feel good. How pathetic is that?
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Originally Posted By Midgetkiller
Numbers say otherwise.

Reaction : reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

End result : no progress.

People with half a brain explained why the numbers are what they are, the advantages of living in the US and advantages of living in Europe. Consensus was that neither was perfect.

You can't form any sort of argument based on facts even though numbers are supplied by the OP. You just scream and shet your pants like a retard. Emotional, anecdotal, nothing factual. Absolutely pathetic. Grow a fukking brain fgt. The USA is still great but braindead retards like you are part of the problem.
Damn the truth really triggered many ameribrahs it seems.

Also loled at best healthcare in the world, just LMFAO!










If you define "best healthcare" as getting ripped off the most, then sure healthcare in the US is the best bro.


Let the cope commence... again
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Bonus infograph:

Not only are our american friends poorer, they also have less free time:

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Originally Posted By luckyboy23
Didn't read past first line.

Numbers? Huh? Armchair basement dweller much? Go change your underwear and shave your neckbeard. You're fukkin with a pro. Go witness and live through your own eyes instead of sourcing mumbo jumbo on the internet.

COPE. Cope all you want to feel better about yourself so you can sleep at night. Nobody gives a chit. Your spending your time lying to yourself to feel good. How pathetic is that?
Either a troll or a retard with tears in his eyes before me.

Both absolutely pathetic. Keep hopping that copium.

Like I said : emotional, anecdotal, nothing factual.
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Originally Posted By luckyboy23
Not freedom, not independence, but more importantly..L-I-B-E-R-T-Y. Liberty,in combination of independence and freedom.
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Liberty?? The country where abortion is illegal lmfao?
fist yourself
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Originally Posted By Rajc
guys i just wanted to tell everyone in here that we are full srs
Don't worry, mericans don't have time nor the money to travel overseas anyways.
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So after all these facts, I think it's fair to say and conclude that the USA is a third world sh*thole.
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Something recently stuck with me....

Fitness dude I follow on IG who is from the UK traveled to the US and visited multiple major cities.

He's got well over 1M IG followers, sponsored by tons of companies, sells programs, has his own fitness app, etc. Probably makes a few hundred thousand a year.

In the UK (not even London) he rents a small townhouse that appears to be 3 bed 2 bath and is cramped.

When he came to America he was enamored by the rental vehicle... a Dodge Challenger RT. It had a V8 and he was obsessed with it. His car back in the UK was an electric Volvo that probably costs almost double what this cheap $35k Chellenger RT costs, but treated this thing like it was a Ferrari. Is it that hard to get a performance vehicle there?

Every grocery store they went in to he was blown away by the selection and quality of so much variety.

Same with restaurants.

Commented on how a non luxury normal hotel had tons of amenities.

America is all about consumerism, so it shouldn't be surprising... but standard of living just seems higher here.

Like, let's say you make $200k a year in Western Europe. In a suburb of a major city around 30 miles out. Can you easily get a 4 bed 3 bath house with a pool and hottub on half an acre of land with all new appliances and updated everything? Plus a couple really nice cars? And easily afford it on said $200k salary?

Kinda seems like that situation in Europe gets you a cramped townhouse and a pathetic fuel efficient car.
I honestly don't know though.

Both places have their pros and cons... but I still contend that if you want to work hard for a good life, there's no better place than USA.
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Originally Posted By DTRrex
Something recently stuck with me....

Fitness dude I follow on IG who is from the UK traveled to the US and visited multiple major cities.

He's got well over 1M IG followers, sponsored by tons of companies, sells programs, has his own fitness app, etc. Probably makes a few hundred thousand a year.

In the UK (not even London) he rents a small townhouse that appears to be 3 bed 2 bath and is cramped.

When he came to America he was enamored by the rental vehicle... a Dodge Challenger RT. It had a V8 and he was obsessed with it. His car back in the UK was an electric Volvo that probably costs almost double what this cheap $35k Chellenger RT costs, but treated this thing like it was a Ferrari. Is it that hard to get a performance vehicle there?

Every grocery store they went in to he was blown away by the selection and quality of so much variety.

Same with restaurants.

Commented on how a non luxury normal hotel had tons of amenities.

America is all about consumerism, so it shouldn't be surprising... but standard of living just seems higher here.

Like, let's say you make $200k a year in Western Europe. In a suburb of a major city around 30 miles out. Can you easily get a 4 bed 3 bath house with a pool and hottub on half an acre of land with all new appliances and updated everything? Plus a couple really nice cars? And easily afford it on said $200k salary?

Kinda seems like that situation in Europe gets you a cramped townhouse and a pathetic fuel efficient car.
I honestly don't know though.

Both places have their pros and cons... but I still contend that if you want to work hard for a good life, there's no better place than USA.
On 200k/year in Europe you'd be living in an absolute mansion and driving Ferraris.

America has got the cheap performance vehicles down for sure. In Europe performance vehicles start from like 50k for the cheapest AMGs and BMW M, Supras, ... Enjoying cars is one of the things that has been made more difficult for the average Joe in Europe and it's a thing that is starting to become more and more contested. The focus for company cars for example is always on the newest tech, electricity now of course. Because that gives tax breaks.

Dunno where he shopped but Europe also has a great selection. What they don't have as often are megastores. They pop up more and more outside of the historical cities but it's not the norm.

Restaurant selection in Europe is top notch as well.

The focus is simply different in certain areas. But it's not true that you'd have to live cramped in Europe on a 200k salary. Only in the most expensive cities you'd have to compromise, same as it would be living in NY. London, Rome, Amsterdam, Brussels are all very expensive for example. I'd say things are very similar. The more succesful you are, the more appealing the US will be. But if you're having a lot of setbacks, most European countries will provide better shielding.

If you live in either you should count yourself lucky anyway.
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Originally Posted By DTRrex
Something recently stuck with me....

Fitness dude I follow on IG who is from the UK traveled to the US and visited multiple major cities.

He's got well over 1M IG followers, sponsored by tons of companies, sells programs, has his own fitness app, etc. Probably makes a few hundred thousand a year.

In the UK (not even London) he rents a small townhouse that appears to be 3 bed 2 bath and is cramped.

When he came to America he was enamored by the rental vehicle... a Dodge Challenger RT. It had a V8 and he was obsessed with it. His car back in the UK was an electric Volvo that probably costs almost double what this cheap $35k Chellenger RT costs, but treated this thing like it was a Ferrari. Is it that hard to get a performance vehicle there?

Every grocery store they went in to he was blown away by the selection and quality of so much variety.

Same with restaurants.

Commented on how a non luxury normal hotel had tons of amenities.

America is all about consumerism, so it shouldn't be surprising... but standard of living just seems higher here.

Like, let's say you make $200k a year in Western Europe. In a suburb of a major city around 30 miles out. Can you easily get a 4 bed 3 bath house with a pool and hottub on half an acre of land with all new appliances and updated everything? Plus a couple really nice cars? And easily afford it on said $200k salary?

Kinda seems like that situation in Europe gets you a cramped townhouse and a pathetic fuel efficient car.
I honestly don't know though.

Both places have their pros and cons... but I still contend that if you want to work hard for a good life, there's no better place than USA.
Food quality is definitely better in the EU. But yes I'm sure there's more choice in the US, not sure having 50 variants of the same thing is actually good though.

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Originally Posted By ****inator
Belgians be ballin on a global level yet...


Thats bull****.

If I had the salary that I have but in Portugal, for example, I would be paying 49% income tax per month. drd srs

Those numbers are probably for the minimum wage salary.
Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Average western European middle class home compared to average middle class American home







I understand that for a poor mexican fuk, the first house looks like an middle class home, but it is in reality a minimum income home in a big city.

And a lot of European houses look like that because they are old houses. Some of those are 500+ years old houses.

Thats why they look like this:




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Originally Posted By GODself
I understand that for a poor mexican fuk, the first house looks like an middle class home, but it is in reality a minimum income home in a big city.

And a lot of European houses look like that because they are old houses. Some of those are 500+ years old houses.
are we looking at the same picture?

the one on the left might be somewhat realistic, but the 2 in the middle would be declared uninhabitable and marked for demolition over here
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Originally Posted By TokenV
are we looking at the same picture?

the one on the left might be somewhat realistic, but the 2 in the middle would be declared uninhabitable and marked for demolition over here
They are all getting restored because they are in the oldest part of the city (and I could bet no one is living in the 2 houses in the middle)

20 years ago, you would hear those houses collapse randomly sometimes, because they are really old (I know the city very well because it was the city I was born in).

In every city you have old houses brah. Especially in one of the oldest cities in one of the oldest countries in Europe.

And btw, is not easy to demolish a house in the historic part of the city. Portuguese people are very conservative in terms of historic patrimony and skyline.
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Originally Posted By GODself
They are all getting restored because they are in the oldest part of the city (and I could bet no one is living in the 2 houses in the middle)

20 years ago, you would hear those houses collapse randomly sometimes, because they are really old (I know the city very well because it was the city I was born in).

In every city you have old houses brah. Especially in one of the oldest cities in one of the oldest countries in Europe.
Lol nowhere besides maybe some poor soutern or eastern euro regions would you find such houses. In western europe you will never find such housing, lol.
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Lol nowhere besides maybe some poor soutern or eastern euro regions would you find such houses. In western europe you will never find such housing, lol.
Luzly, you never got out of you moms basement thats for sure.

Ive travelled all over Europe and thats common... especially when you target the worst street in the city (which is literally the case). Literally like posting some **** house in the worst street of Brooklyn or Bronx.

20 years ago the street was full of whores and drugs (thats why people don't live there). If you ask people what is the worst street in the city, they would mention that exact steet. I'm sure you would feel at home.
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Originally Posted By GODself
Luzly, you never got out of you moms basement thats for sure.

Ive travelled all over Europe and thats common... especially when you target the worst street in the city (which is literally the case).

20 years ago the street was full of whores and drugs (thats why people don't live ther). I'm sure you would feel at home.
Okay then you dumb ******* what city in western europe was that pic from?

Also here's a comparison to housing quality from an american point of view:

https://forstconsultingllc.com/blog/...-construction/
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Okay then you dumb ******* what city in western europe was that pic from?

Also here's a comparison to housing quality from an american point of view:

https://forstconsultingllc.com/blog/...-construction/
Thats Porto city (which is probably the most western city -geographically - in Europe). If you forget Lisbon, at least.

And the street name is: Rua Escura (which means "Dark Street"... because of the ****ty past)
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Originally Posted By NextPound
It’s amazing how many of these threads are made by eurocels. I would probably be obsessed with trying to prove otherwise if I lived in a less powerful country both economically and in national defense than the United States.

And just LOL @ the government setting your standard of health care. Medicare - which is old people socialist medicine in the US like you have for everyone is looked down on here as poverty and anyone who uses it was too stupid or lazy to save for retirement.

Be a good little cuck and let the government tell you what is approved or not. Also have fun paying for the bored grandmas and grandpas that go to the doctor daily as a social activity to see their “friends.” I am sure that won’t raise taxes or reduce the quality of care, but hey at least you don’t have any friction by charging something to make sure people don’t abuse the system. Congratufinglations.
You sure sound angry as fuk to be living in a perfect country.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
It’s amazing how many of these threads are made by eurocels. I would probably be obsessed with trying to prove otherwise if I lived in a less powerful country both economically and in national defense than the United States.

And just LOL @ the government setting your standard of health care. Medicare - which is old people socialist medicine in the US like you have for everyone is looked down on here as poverty and anyone who uses it was too stupid or lazy to save for retirement.

Be a good little cuck and let the government tell you what is approved or not. Also have fun paying for the bored grandmas and grandpas that go to the doctor daily as a social activity to see their “friends.” I am sure that won’t raise taxes or reduce the quality of care, but hey at least you don’t have any friction by charging something to make sure people don’t abuse the system. Congratufinglations.
PRIVATE health in Europe is better and cheaper than in the US, so what are you talking about? lol

Government doesn't set my standard of health care. It sets the standard of PUBLIC health care... not PRIVATE.

Never used public health in my entire life. But yes, it sucks.
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Originally Posted By GODself
Thats Porto city (which is probably the most western city -geographically - in Europe). If you forget Lisbon, at least.

And the street name is: Rua Escura (which means "Dark Street"... because of the ****ty past)
LMFAO, euros call it Poortugal for a reason you dumb retard, so like I predicted some southere euro region. And even there it's rare to see housing in such bad conditions.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
LOL. One of the first lines was they don’t have central air or air conditioning. Of course you are more energy efficient if you can’t maintain ******t temperature to one degree. Quality of life costs energy and energy costs money. Poor eurocels.
These ****s live in a country with no history and can't undertand that most of old countries have old houses. Those houses have no air conditioning. In fact... I never felt the necessity of having it when I was living in a "good weather" country like Portugal or Greece.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
It’s amazing how many of these threads are made by eurocels. I would probably be obsessed with trying to prove otherwise if I lived in a less powerful country both economically and in national defense than the United States.

And just LOL @ the government setting your standard of health care. Medicare - which is old people socialist medicine in the US like you have for everyone is looked down on here as poverty and anyone who uses it was too stupid or lazy to save for retirement.

Be a good little cuck and let the government tell you what is approved or not. Also have fun paying for the bored grandmas and grandpas that go to the doctor daily as a social activity to see their “friends.” I am sure that won’t raise taxes or reduce the quality of care, but hey at least you don’t have any friction by charging something to make sure people don’t abuse the system. Congratufinglations.
So, you still didn't explain why mericans are more poor than euros?
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Originally Posted By ****inator
LMFAO, euros call it Poortugal for a reason you dumb retard, so like I predicted some southere euro region.And even there it's rare to see housing in such bad conditions.
Thanks for proving my point, you dumb fuk.

You wish you could say the same about Mexico, right?




LOL!
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Ow and the final third world pill for mericans to swallow, they mutilate their dinks:



Almost on par with Nigeria, congrats ameripoors
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Ow and the final third world pill for mericans to swallow, they mutilate their dinks:



Almost on par with Nigeria, congrats ameripoors
Never, in my life, thought I would see a Mexican saying Americans are poor.

Is like Lebron James saying Luka Doncic (don't even know who this Luka is... just used google) is black.
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Originally Posted By GODself
Thanks for proving my point, you dumb fuk.

You wish you could say the same about Mexico, right?




LOL!
Hahah you low IQ tard, who says I'm mexican?
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Hahah you low IQ tard, who says I'm mexican?
Your skin color.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
LOL. One of the first lines was they don’t have central air or air conditioning. Of course you are more energy efficient if you can’t maintain ******t temperature to one degree. Quality of life costs energy and energy costs money. Poor eurocels.
Because most of europe is cold compared to burgerland you dumd retard hence why nobody wants airconditioning although that's changing since we have hotter summers this last decade.

Anyway, keep on coping ameripoor and cutting of dinks of babies.
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