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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667942053 09-15-2022, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
So in 2019 the RAND corporation published a manual on how to antagonize russia to take action



Hmmmmmmm
Yep. And McFaul was promoting all of them. Check out his Twitter way back when we were trying to install that teacher as head of Belarus.

Also, same guy after the war began.



There is a reason Putin banned him.
post 1667946723 09-16-2022, 01:23 AM
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It's obvious with anyone with a brain that the Obama/Bidan axis had a geopoltitical goal of pushign Russia into a war and using the Ukranian people as a proxy war for a hot war with Russia.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
It's obvious with anyone with a brain that the Obama/Bidan axis had a geopoltitical goal of pushign Russia into a war and using the Ukranian people as a proxy war for a hot war with Russia.
Obama didn't want this. He actually wanted a reset with Russia. This was Hillary, Nuland, etc. Obama actually tried to resist the Blob where he could. He failed. But he did wisely choose not to give Ukraine weapons. Many of our presidents are rather helpless to change foreign policy. Bush ran on a humble foreign policy and ended up executing the most arrogant policy we ever had. It isn't top down. His advisors in the establishment actually call the shots and frame the circumstance so there is little room for debate. Our president is also not always aware what our intelligence agencies or the pentagon is doing. They lie and mislead people.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...s-as-they-fled
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post 1667947353 09-16-2022, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩


https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...s-as-they-fled
A war is a complex thing; some counter offensive is not the end of this.

This war could take ten years or maybe more.

The big test will, be the winter and how it will impact both sides.

My suspicioun is that the war will start to favour Russia during the winter. A target rich environment and a lot of munitions and drones.

I think the Nato powers and uderestimating Russia and their strategic advantages of Iranian and North Korean arms.

The West all laugh about Norrth korea, but in specialised fields they have superior equipment to the west.
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thats just sad to watch.. but to the last ukrainian is their motto



post 1667947423 09-16-2022, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
A war is a complex thing; some counter offensive is not the end of this.

This war could take ten years or maybe more.

The big test will, be the winter and how it will impact both sides.

My suspicioun is that the war will start to favour Russia during the winter. A target rich environment and a lot of munitions and drones.

I think the Nato powers and uderestimating Russia and their strategic advantages of Iranian and North Korean arms.

The West all laugh about Norrth korea, but in specialised fields they have superior equipment to the west.
post 1667947433 09-16-2022, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
The North Koreans beat you in the 50's.

The Taliban beat you in 2022.
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Oh no no no no vatnik bros

Ukraine penetrating the Kherson front, when will Kherson fall vatniks?

post 1667947483 09-16-2022, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Oh no no no no vatnik bros

Ukraine penetrating the Kherson front, when will Kherson fall vatniks?

Not a fall comrade.

Special military retreat.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
The North Koreans beat you in the 50's.

The Taliban beat you in 2022.
Lol Korea was a war far far away and the chinese, russians and Kim jong uns still couldn't take over South Korea. Definitely was not a defeat for the west but a win. And tell us how good nort korea is this day huh?

Afghanistan was a foolish move, I agree. USSR also lost in there in the 80's. Hell Afghanistan is barely a real country in the modern sense, more like tribes living in the mountains. Very hard to change.

Only the brits in the late 1800's hand any militairy success there.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Lol Korea was a war far far away and the chinese, russians and Kim jong uns still couldn't take over South Korea. Definitely was not a defeat for the west but a win. And tell us how good nort korea is this day huh?

Afghanistan was a foolish move, I agree. USSR also lost in there in the 80's. Hell Afghanistan is barely a real country in the modern sense, more like tribes living in the mountains. Very hard to change.

Only the brits in the late 1800's hand any militairy success there.
North Korea actually had a really strong economy until we embargoed them. And South Korea was also a brutal dictatorship so it wasn't about freedom.
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
North Korea actually had a really strong economy until we embargoed them. And South Korea was also a brutal dictatorship so it wasn't about freedom.
Lol but there wasn't a real north korea before the war, it was more or less one country (you still had a division but not like now). After the war they went fell communism and the people were cucked and were starving.

Meanwhile South Korea became free and embraced capitalism. Tell me wincel which system worked out better? INB4 "bu.bu bu muh communism would've worked great if it wasn't for that pesky western interference" cope.

(note I'm also not a fan of capitalism since it's clearly flawed but communism is even more sh*t)
post 1667947943 09-16-2022, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Lol but there wasn't a real north korea before the war, it was more or less one country. After the war they went fell communism and the people were cucked and were starving.

Meanwhile South Korea became free and embraced capitalism. Tell me wincel which system worked out better? INB4 "bu.bu bu muh communism would've worked great if it wasn't for that pesky western interference" cope.

(note I'm also not a fan of capitalism since it's clearly flawed but communism is even more sh*t)
I absolutely agree capitalism works better, but we really fuked the result up quite a bit. NK would have ended up similar to Vietnam or China. They would have eventually adopted a market economy. NK is as poor as it is today mainly due to our containing them.

Also if you read about what we did to NK, it's pretty horrifying. You have to admire the courage and tenacity of their people to hold out desperately for ICBMs to threaten us and get sanctions lifted.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Lol but there wasn't a real north korea before the war, it was more or less one country (you still had a division but not like now). After the war they went fell communism and the people were cucked and were starving.

Meanwhile South Korea became free and embraced capitalism. Tell me wincel which system worked out better? INB4 "bu.bu bu muh communism would've worked great if it wasn't for that pesky western interference" cope.

(note I'm also not a fan of capitalism since it's clearly flawed but communism is even more sh*t)
I support capitalism 100%. However it;s not a fair test to compare capitalist South korea and Communist North Korea, when one has an extreme sanctiosn regime against it.
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337⏩


thats just sad to watch.. but to the last ukrainian is their motto



that's awful, RIP to those guys
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post 1667948583 09-16-2022, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Lol Korea was a war far far away and the chinese, russians and Kim jong uns still couldn't take over South Korea. Definitely was not a defeat for the west but a win. And tell us how good nort korea is this day huh?

Afghanistan was a foolish move, I agree. USSR also lost in there in the 80's. Hell Afghanistan is barely a real country in the modern sense, more like tribes living in the mountains. Very hard to change.

Only the brits in the late 1800's hand any militairy success there.
The South koreans had a global coallition of over 23 nations, who very many had battle experience from World War 2.


The North Koreans were supported by Soviet Russia and China and they beat back the much better armed and trained Coalition forces.

Present day North Korea is specialist in artillery warfare and have very modern artillery systems that are superior to the US HIMAR system. In addition North Korea has massive artillery reserves and a very large well trained army.

North Korea knows it cannot compete with the US in many forms of warfare so they focused on artillery tactics.

Russia has certain experience, they have support from North korea who has a focus on artillery tactics and armaments and Iran who are becomign a specialist in drone warfare.

I can't emphasise enough the advantage of having limitless artilllery reserves. This can make a significant impact.


Americans are arrogant and underestimate their foes.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
The South koreans had a global coallition of over 23 nations, who very many had battle experience from World War 2.


The North Koreans were supported by Soviet Russia and China and they beat back the much better armed and trained Coalition forces.

Present day North Korea is specialist in artillery warfare and have very modern artillery systems that are superior to the US HIMAR system. In addition North Korea has massive artillery reserves and a very large well trained army.

North Korea knows it cannot compete with the US in many forms of warfare so they focused on artillery tactics.

Russia has certain experience, they have support from North korea who has a focus on artillery tactics and armaments and Iran who are becomign a specialist in drone warfare.

I can't emphasise enough the advantage of having limitless artilllery reserves. This can make a significant impact.


Americans are arrogant and underestimate their foes.
Okay bro whatever you say, we'll see if those nort korean weapons will change the war in Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Okay bro whatever you say, we'll see if those nort korean weapons will change the war in Ukraine.
It's the combined arms effect.

Unguided North Korean munitions, Iranian drones and Russian domestic systems.

Versus the guided munitions of the US, provided they can keep supplying them.

A big advantage Russia has is the cost of their weapons versus the equivalent on the Ukraines side.

The Ukraine weapons are extremely good, but the cost is significantly higher. Meanwhile Russia has a significantly cheaper supply of equivalent (and worse) munitions, but larger stocks they can access.
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Lmfao russian media is extemely entertaining



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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
The North Koreans beat you in the 50's.

The Taliban beat you in 2022.
So let's get into this. So I can go ahead and cream you like Soleimani.

Do tell how the Taliban "beat" us in 2022.

Biden and Co certainly did not wait until hard winter to withdrawal to move as he should have to limit Taliban movement. Very Naive and cost lives.

But other than momentary blunders and having no specific mission in the first place did the Taliban defeat the US?

Need I remind you the body count?

"Losing in Afghanistan" is our own internal hyperbole critical of our own Government. Based on metrics, just no.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Sure is a lot of adjectives and NO metrics.

The Wagner piece is concerning though. If they are recruiting, is it a mass recruiting that started in June? Same with Cadet training accelerating. Are these combatants being projected out at a particular timeline? June recruiting begs fall & winter emplacement.

That's what intel used to do not serve people like you emotional talking points so you can hur hur like Carl's Junior brought it to you.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
So let's get into this. So I can go ahead and cream you like Soleimani.

Do tell how the Taliban "beat" us in 2022.

Biden and Co certainly did not wait until hard winter to withdrawal to move as he should have to limit Taliban movement. Very Naive and cost lives.

But other than momentary blunders and having no specific mission in the first place did the Taliban defeat the US?

Need I remind you the body count?

"Losing in Afghanistan" is our own internal hyperbole critical of our own Government. Based on metrics, just no.
Yes the Americans behaved like a rogue state and bombed an iranian general. Very upsetting and franklydisgusting behaviour by the US.

But every action has a reaction. You in contravention of itnernational law used your drones to murder an Iranian general. Now Iranian drones will murder you.

It's poetic.

Just so you're aware; those drones are too complex to be operated by Russians; so they will be sealth piloted by Iranian operators bombing American troops and assets.

America failed to meet it's objectives in Afghanistan and got compeltely humiliated. Yes you lost to the Taliban.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Yes the Americans behaved like a rogue state and bombed an iranian general. Very upsetting and franklydisgusting behaviour by the US.

But every action has a reaction. You in contravention of itnernational law used your drones to murder an Iranian general. Now Iranian drones will murder you.

It's poetic.

America failed to meet it's objectives in Afghanistan and got compeltely humiliated. Yes you lost to the Taliban.
You like Trump?
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Lol!

Ukrainian troops forced Russia to retreat in the northeastern region of Kharkiv.

Meanwhile, Putin spoke at the opening of a Ferris wheel, boasting: "There is nothing like that in Europe."

But one day later, the wheel broke, trapping visitors in the air, reports said.

As Russia was forced to retreat in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin was opening a giant Ferris wheel in Moscow — but it broke down and people had to be refunded.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-fo...132144475.html
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Lol!







https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-fo...132144475.html
"But one day later, the wheel broke, trapping visitors in the air"



Russia gonna russia
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
But every action has a reaction.
You mean how Iranian air defense shot down the Ukie passenger flight full of Iranians after the US merked Soleimani?

Diaspora cucks are always funny, you were full on British when Brexit came around and you tried dunking on the EU, now suddenly you're Iranian once again.
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
Have you seen any of the various documentaries by our own media about the neonazis in Ukraine? Have you read any of the bullchit laws they passed against Russians? You do know why the separatists tried to leave right? Ukraine is a corrupt failed state, and it is infested with neonazis.
Why don't the Russians just go home, back to their own country? Sounds pretty simple to me.
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