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post 1668243623 09-21-2022, 02:11 PM
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1984 should without a doubt be mandatory reading for everyone

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post 1668243843 09-21-2022, 02:15 PM
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And "A Brave New World"
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ONly a matter of time before it is labeled a "far right" book
post 1668244023 09-21-2022, 02:17 PM
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I've already lived 1984; why would I want to read about it?
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post 1668244273 09-21-2022, 02:20 PM
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Yes, great book. Also hopefully instills a need in the reader to unplug from the matrix
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And "A Brave New World"
BNW was great. Aldous Huxley is a genius, imo. The story was so-so but the ideas behind his dystopian future prognosis was spot-on. Doubly so if you read Brave New World Revisited.
post 1668244283 09-21-2022, 02:20 PM
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Rather ironic that while writing it the author was dobbing people in to the government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell%27s_list
post 1668245143 09-21-2022, 02:35 PM
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I bought it on Amazon and read it because y'all won't shut up about it and it was the most boring s*** I've ever read really stupid s***
post 1668245343 09-21-2022, 02:39 PM
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Inb4 liberals start banning books
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1984
Brave New World
Fahrenheit 451

All in my top 10 goat books
post 1668245613 09-21-2022, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Rather ironic that while writing it the author was dobbing people in to the government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell%27s_list
Orwell was a pretty complex dude. For one thing, he was a staunch lifelong socialist, which few people who have read and like his works have any idea about.
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post 1668245723 09-21-2022, 02:48 PM
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These books were required in my high school English classes. Do I remember any of it? No.
post 1668245813 09-21-2022, 02:49 PM
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I read it again 6 months ago.

I'm honestly shocked liberals haven't tried to ban it.
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post 1668245843 09-21-2022, 02:49 PM
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Agreed OP. I was already starting to lean away from mainstream sheepish thinking and '1984' definitely helped push me further.
While less profound, another I recommend is 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman.' I listened to the audiobook over a dozen years ago and haven't forgotten it one bit. Afterward you'll see geopolitics and all international news differently.
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post 1668246233 09-21-2022, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
1984
Brave New World
Fahrenheit 451

All in my top 10 goat books
post 1668246353 09-21-2022, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Orwell was a pretty complex dude. For one thing, he was a staunch lifelong socialist, which few people who have read and like his works have any idea about.
Please don't abuse that word "lifelong" since that's not accurate. His worldview completely changed after returning from fighting in the Spanish civil war. A socialist is incapable of writing something so scathing against socialism and communism as '1984' or 'Animal Farm.'

But hey, thanks for attempting an example of rewriting history. One might even call that Orwellian.

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post 1668249143 09-21-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Never read of it. The author is good?
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Please don't abuse that word "lifelong" since that's not accurate. His worldview completely changed after returning from fighting in the Spanish civil war. A socialist is incapable of writing something so scathing against socialism and communism as '1984' or 'Animal Farm.'

But hey, thanks for attempting an example of rewriting history. One might even call that Orwellian.

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“Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.”
Orwell was a socialist to his last breath - Animal Farm being a critique of what he believed to be Stalinism's bastardistation of socialism and 1984 a more generic critique of totalitarianism.

The guy came back from the Spanish Civil War and literally wrote a love letter to socialism (Homage to Catalonia) based on his experience in the anarcho-syndicalist communes there. That was what he believed socialism was - worker ownership and control of production, a lack of traditional hierarchy and bosses, etc. His critique of the USSR eg in Animal Farm was from that entirely leftist, not rightist perspective.


Frank(ly) this is above your intellectual pay grade.
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post 1668250923 09-21-2022, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Rather ironic that while writing it the author was dobbing people in to the government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell%27s_list
Read about the chit he had to go through with those people just to get Animal Farm published. That alone could make a 500 page masterpiece novel.
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Sure, but teachers will just say its what fascist right wing patriots want. Effectively destroying what the book is supposed to teach
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You think those in power, want people reading that book?
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Originally Posted By poptarts⏩
These books were required in my high school English classes. Do I remember any of it? No.
Yeah, they were assigned reading for me too.
Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Agreed OP. I was already starting to lean away from mainstream sheepish thinking and '1984' definitely helped push me further.

While less profound, another I recommend is 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman.'I listened to the audiobook over a dozen years ago and haven't forgotten it one bit. Afterward you'll see geopolitics and all international news differently.
Seconded. Also 'The Shock Doctrine'.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Yeah, they were assigned reading for me too.




Seconded. Also 'The Shock Doctrine'.

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Love the book and love the movie!

I liked the book better

The movie of the year for that year was “The Muppets Take Manhattan”. That was seriously the first movie I ever watched in theatre. Like when it first came out. The screen that size was a surreal larger than life experience for me.
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Originally Posted By mycorona⏩
Sure, but teachers will just say its what fascist right wing patriots want. Effectively destroying what the book is supposed to teach
When they do officially ban the book, that's when it regains its power amongst the youth.
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Originally Posted By HaiMeesk⏩
When they do officially ban the book, that's when it regains its power amongst the youth.
Wishful thinking.

And lol @ absolutely any faith in youth at all.
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IMHO Animal Farm is the better book.
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