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What do you think? Women that want to find their own success

Dont just stereotype and imagine all career women to be men hating, because there are still sloots out there with their own gosls that value a good man


But anyway, whats your opinion on them?
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With inflation and cost of living being what it is today how many men can even support their family on a single salary? It's almost a necessity in 2022

$150k salary does not support a family well enough in 2022. You might be able to get by, but it's not anything impressive. Anything under $100k isn't even doable.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
With inflation and cost of living being what it is today how many men can even support their family on a single salary? It's almost a necessity in 2022

$150k salary does not support a family well enough in 2022. You might be able to get by, but it's not anything impressive. Anything under $100k isn't even doable.
This is actually a good point, 2 incomes are pretty neccessary nowadays
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Originally Posted By Praise2Allah
What do you think? Women that want to find their own success

Dont just stereotype and imagine all career women to be men hating, because there are still sloots out there with their own gosls that value a good man


But anyway, whats your opinion on them?
So as a man, you want the person to have your kids and be their formative influence to have zero real world experience?

Even if you could afford to care for and support a family on your own I will simply never understand why any man would want a life partner who can’t take up their half of the responsibilities if and when needed,
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Why do men have careers? So that they can attract a partner and be able to provide for a family.
Why do women have careers? So that they can acquire status and impress other ladies.

Now I'm not against women having careers, because in this day and age it's difficult to raise a family on one income but at the end of the day she should put her family first.
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Bad for society

im not just talking corporate wagecuck sloots btw, a lot of sloots are doing the whole online business chit now, pretty much being self employed. 21% of US busiensses last year were owned by women last year so female entrepreneurship is on the rise

But ill watch this all now, thanks for posting
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
So as a man, you want the person to have your kids and be their formative influence to have zero real world experience?

Even if you could afford to care for and support a family on your own I will simply never understand why any man would want a life partner who can’t take up their half of the responsibilities if and when needed,
I have never liked the idea of having a woman thats working with men that want to fuk her. And thats always going to be the case if a woman is even remotely attractive

A woman doesnt need to work to have life experience, a woman still has duties outside of her job
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
So as a man, you want the person to have your kids and be their formative influence to have zero real world experience?

Even if you could afford to care for and support a family on your own I will simply never understand why any man would want a life partner who can’t take up their half of the responsibilities if and when needed,
For the majority of human history women grew up at home with limited schooling then were sent off for an arranged marriage. Going from daughter to mother instantly. So having "real world experience" (whatever that means) is completely worthless.
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No. But if their intent is to one day be a wife and mother then...yes.

Career women will always put their career above anything else. Why? Because it has been ingrained within them that it is the sole title that represents them.

I would and will never marry a "career woman." I want a woman that will focus on being a mother and wife first. I'll take care of the financial aspect.
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Originally Posted By Praise2Allah
I have never liked the idea of having a woman thats working with men that want to fuk her. And thats always going to be the case if a woman is even remotely attractive

A woman doesnt need to work to have life experience
1) a woman, or even a young girl, can’t exist without some men sexualising her. That’s not on her that’s on men who need to change, see your Bible for proof

2) a woman needs to have life experience and skills that will mean that her family will never want for anything. If misc teaches you anything it should be that men can’t be relied on to be anything of value to women

When men can’t be relied on to be loyal and protect, nurture and care then women absolutely need to have life experience
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
So as a man, you want the person to have your kids and be their formative influence to have zero real world experience?

Even if you could afford to care for and support a family on your own I will simply never understand why any man would want a life partner who can’t take up their half of the responsibilities if and when needed,
The only responsibilities I want my life partner to have are to be a great mother, wife, and to take care of the home. There is almost nothing more important than that when it comes to a family. Never in my life did I imagine women wanting to work in a cubicle or waste their life over a wage/business when their strengths and power as a woman come from being a great mother and wife. Why women think freedom is working for a title or company that gives zero fuks about them in a cubicle for 9+ hours a day, and being a stay at home mom with the difficult job of raising children and being a loving mother is slavery will never make sense to me. The propaganda over the past decades is remarkable on women.

And they wonder why men are broken. Most men can't find a good traditional woman.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
No. But if their intent is to one day be a wife and mother then...yes.

Career women will always put their career above anything else. Why? Because it has been ingrained within them that it is the sole title that represents them.

I would and will never marry a "career woman." I want a woman that will focus on being a mother and wife first. I'll take care of the financial aspect.
It’s not necessarily true, women can’t have it all at the same time. So a career woman can choose to give up work for young children and then find a way back when she is not needed at home as much, at which stage she has experience and skills and can earn more in less time.
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For the majority of human history women grew up at home with limited schooling then were sent off for an arranged marriage. Going from daughter to mother instantly. So having "real world experience" (whatever that means) is completely worthless.
Women as slaves is not any proof
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
So as a man, you want the person to have your kids and be their formative influence to have zero real world experience?

Even if you could afford to care for and support a family on your own I will simply never understand why any man would want a life partner who can’t take up their half of the responsibilities if and when needed,
What are their half of the responsibilities?


People like you are mistaken what makes a healthy family.

And it's why you see kids murdering their classmates and committing suicide today.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
1) a woman, or even a young girl, can’t exist without some men sexualising her. That’s not on her that’s on men who need to change, see your Bible for proof

2) a woman needs to have life experience and skills that will mean that her family will never want for anything. If misc teaches you anything it should be that men can’t be relied on to be anything of value to women

When men can’t be relied on to be loyal and protect, nurture and care then women absolutely need to have life experience
What's life experience for a woman? Going to college away from all men to protect and be a whore partying every weekend, go into major financial debt, and then hop on ssri's because she's alone and has to slave away in a cubicle with the feeling that she was used purely as a sexual object with nothing but debt and a high body count to show for it?

Why would a stay at home mom need "real world" experience? Wtf is wrong with women these days. They expect men to be loyal and protect them yet don't allow men to be men. They want to act like men and expect men to have respect for a someone that doesn't even want to be a woman?
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They go off to university to get face-phucked and binge drink for seven to ten years because of muh freedom and independence, ultimately leaving academia with 2-3 completely pointless degrees that say nothing about their ability to perform actual work, then get hired to some dressed up version of working at a desk often supervising people who do actual work.

By the time they realize they've made the wrong choice, they are already in their thirties with a rapidly disappearing set of eggs and no longer able to attract the 6'5 Chads that they could so easily in their college days, so like women do on everything, they triple down on the wrong decision rather than just admitting that they were wrong in the first place and embrace the "empowered" position of "independent" wagecuck.

At some point before their looks completely fade they marry some eager beta who they will cheat on at a moments notice and crap out a kid or two before divorce raping Timothy, taking the house and half his stuff, and returning to the "empowered" lifestyle of getting gaped out by whomever they can manage to deceive enough with an increasingly thick shellacking of make-up and Instagram filters while claiming that "Family is everything."

Just lol @ women srs.
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Children need their mother more at a very young age than they do at an older age. Women have become backwards in this respect. Strong character is built this way, which is why the left hates this idea. The left would rather have a weak charactered society with the delusion women will somehow become stronger than men.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
1) a woman, or even a young girl, can’t exist without some men sexualising her. That’s not on her that’s on men who need to change, see your Bible for proof

2) a woman needs to have life experience and skills that will mean that her family will never want for anything. If misc teaches you anything it should be that men can’t be relied on to be anything of value to women

When men can’t be relied on to be loyal and protect, nurture and care then women absolutely need to have life experience
Men will always sexualise, thats one thing. But to have your woman work with a man/several men that wants to fuk her every day 8+ hours a day is too much, its a recipe for disaster. You just know th at everytime some chit happens theyll be tryna console her and trying to work their way in

Dont understand your point about men being unreliable. Children need both a mother and a father, both parties are neccessary so i dont believe that chit you said about women lacking skills. Just being a good mother to your child is making the world a better place, you dont need a job to be a good mother
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won't know if anyone has made the right decision until much later with whether they're happy or not

all of it is ultimately meaningless either way tho
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Women as slaves is not any proof
Proof of what? That "slaves" were more than capable of raising kids and the home without ever stepping foot in a college or cubicle, learning the finer arts of ********ing for 8 hours a day and dealing with office gossip.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Agreed but you really can’t blame women because career was pushed so hard on us socially and culturally. Starting with my generation Gen X little girls were taught to set career goals. Very strong cultural conditioning of minors that was almost impossible to vary from.
I agree with this, but this is the part where men failed women. This is part of my disdain for boomers. Imagine being a father and sending your daughter away to college given the direction and culture of modern day college.

I don't think young females nowadays truly understand how difficult it is to be a mother and wife and to manage the day to day life of a household, let alone how important it is to family unit success. The true fact of the matter is though...it is 100% more fulfilling and a beautiful life to live. I've never known a stay at home mom in a traditional good marriage that was on depressants. Not one. All the one's I know are mothers but cling on to their career still and can't manage the stress, or single women married to their career.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
1) a woman, or even a young girl, can’t exist without some men sexualising her. That’s not on her that’s on men who need to change,
This is biology/evolution not some social patriarchy

You should watch Dr. Carol Hooven (Harvard Director of Evolutionary Biology).



Or read her book



She explains experiments with Chimpanzees, mice, Red Deer and Transsexuals (Females to Males). She explains how Testosterone causes males to sexualize females for reproduction. Howt Estrogen and Test need each other. How these hormones develop and affects behavior in men and women. It's all completely fascinating.
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Originally Posted By Praise2Allah
What do you think? Women that want to find their own success

Dont just stereotype and imagine all career women to be men hating, because there are still sloots out there with their own gosls that value a good man


But anyway, whats your opinion on them?
My career is very high stress and can have long hours and 24/7 activity. So, it's not really a family life type of life it's more like some kind of secular priest type of thing, so it made me avoid family a lot.

I'm not sure I could pay attention to family as much as I have to people at work.

When you have a career you have to think about those factors.

Some people go to work, do their work, then go home and so they can have a family.

If you are in a career that is by implication more important than your family you should avoid family.

That goes double for women.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
What's life experience for a woman? Going to college away from all men to protect and be a whore partying every weekend, go into major financial debt, and then hop on ssri's because she's alone and has to slave away in a cubicle with the feeling that she was used purely as a sexual object with nothing but debt and a high body count to show for it?

Why would a stay at home mom need "real world" experience? Wtf is wrong with women these days. They expect men to be loyal and protect them yet don't allow men to be men. They want to act like men and expect men to have respect for a someone that doesn't even want to be a woman?
Life experience for women is the same as life experience for men. That’s like basic functioning adulthood.

It’s interesting that miscers seem to want this traditional uneducated, inexperienced wife. What happens in 5 years time, in 20. Are you still there taking care of her for her entire life?

While you have a life outside the home, what happens to her life when you’re 2.4 children no longer need full time care or have grown up and even left. What do you and her do then?
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
With inflation and cost of living being what it is today how many men can even support their family on a single salary? It's almost a necessity in 2022

$150k salary does not support a family well enough in 2022. You might be able to get by, but it's not anything impressive. Anything under $100k isn't even doable.
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Depends. If she wants to work a wholesome career like be an elementary school teacher I'd be OK with it. Doubly so if she was one of the types that wants to be a good teacher rather than the man-hating cat-ladies who want to teach 9 year olds how to masturbate and hate their heritage. If she chose a career path more traditionally "female" I would usually be OK with it. I wouldn't be OK if she wanted to be an office drone and go to work and be miserable as I need her to be content with her life to be the main facilitator of all things family and children. Leave the workplace stress to me.

Honestly I think it's really off-putting when I meet a woman who is way the fuk into careers, dancing to the tune of some corporation, submitting herself to grinding her life away at a desk, etc. I had a thing for a woman a few years back who I later found was all about that "gonna freeze my eggs until I'm 40 cuz my career" lifestyle and I was just disgusted instantly.
Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
With inflation and cost of living being what it is today how many men can even support their family on a single salary? It's almost a necessity in 2022

$150k salary does not support a family well enough in 2022. You might be able to get by, but it's not anything impressive. Anything under $100k isn't even doable.
lol wat. maybe if you live in a big, expensive city. in which case why would you want to live there let alone raise a family there? I make more money than a lot of guys I know with wives and kids and they get along just fine; raising kids doesn't cost as much as most people think.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Agreed but you really can’t blame women because career was pushed so hard on us socially and culturally. Starting with my generation Gen X little girls were taught to set career goals. Very strong cultural conditioning of minors that was almost impossible to vary from.
lol I'm sure you had a lot of social and cultural norms pushed on you which you had no problem resisting against. i.e. acting your age, having children, learning to cook, etc
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Originally Posted By Praise2Allah
What do you think? Women that want to find their own success

Dont just stereotype and imagine all career women to be men hating, because there are still sloots out there with their own gosls that value a good man


But anyway, whats your opinion on them?
I think it really depends on the individual. I think more women would be happier if they focused more on their family vs career, but it's true for a lot of men, too.

I am a fan of college degrees for women. My wife and I met at college. Knowledge is a good thing, from my perspective. Worthless degrees and debt are bad, so just pick a woman without those.

I wanted to marry a woman who wanted to be a stay at home mom so that was something I looked for specifically and that was discussed up front. I also recognized that part of that was me being a traditional husband. I suspect that it's just as hard for women to find a traditional husband as for men to find a traditional wife. I make more than 100k but generally less than 150k. We don't drive new cars and live somewhat frugally. Public school (wife is doing home school very successfully with one), but I do spend a lot on piano lessons.
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