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post 1672781693 12-13-2022, 01:54 PM
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Is this the GOAT career path? Can work for 30 hours a week and make over 100K depending on the trade and military pension
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post 1672781863 12-13-2022, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By AcetylCoA⏩
Is this the GOAT career path? Can work for 30 hours a week and make over 100K depending on the trade and military pension
Yeah it's pretty common. Full retirement, medical, and some VA compensation. Then start another career. If you choose to be a tradesman, you make your own hours. That's also my story.
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post 1672782003 12-13-2022, 02:01 PM
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Sounds great, but just remember you could get killed or maimed in war. I’m not trying to talk you out of joining, I just want you to be aware of the potential dangers.
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post 1672782083 12-13-2022, 02:03 PM
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You could also spend an entire career without deploying; or choose a job that isn't in harms way. 80% are not in harms way.
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post 1672782213 12-13-2022, 02:04 PM
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Had a former co-worker almost similar route. Did a few tours and landed on disability for something. brought in like a few thousand dollars a month on disability along(so we've heard) and works a job making 3-4k a month.
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post 1672782233 12-13-2022, 02:05 PM
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Would be easier to just start an onlyfans and make more money in one year than anything the vet made in 40
post 1672782843 12-13-2022, 02:13 PM
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lolwut. why would you go into a trade when military will pay for your college education? brb bust ass in military for 20 years and then do more manual labor after finally discharging. lol at tradies, they never learn.
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post 1672782883 12-13-2022, 02:13 PM
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I'd say if you're smart enough go for a technical MOS. Pretty much zero chance of deployment (and if you do you'll always be on base) and management opportunities in the civilian world where you'll only work like 20 hours a week and get six figures from the job alone.
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
You could also spend an entire career without deploying; or choose a job that isn't in harms way. 80% are not in harms way.
I know the military has a HUGE YMMV (your mileage may vary) component to it, but I was in the Navy for 4 years and not "in harms way" (not to any serious extent anyway) and it still sucked ass overall. Often horrible work/life balance for stupid reasons, all kinds of ridiculousness and BS, etc.

That's where doing 20+ years gets really iffy. Of course, the thing about the military is that IF you do it right (I didn't really)- you can gain some very useful skills/experience/certs and be in high demand when you get out. Like some of the ITs had people lining up to hire them.
post 1672783423 12-13-2022, 02:22 PM
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Crazy that you guys can get a military pension at such a young age.

Sounds like a decent option for a regular guy but an absolutely amazing option if you came from a disadvantaged background.
post 1672783953 12-13-2022, 02:36 PM
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sounds like a good path.


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I know a lot of young guys in the miliary currently.

Most of them don't give af, smoke weed, barely make a livable wage, etc

it's important to get into a good job in the military if you go that route imo.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
I'm in a good spot, but if I had to do it over,I'd probably be a military pilot. Join at 18yo. Fly for 20 years.Retire from military will full pension at 38yo for the rest of my life. Then just fly commercial like 3 days a week and make another $250k/year until I want to retire.
That's not how it works.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
I'm in a good spot, but if I had to do it over, I'd probably be a military pilot. Join at 18yo. Fly for 20 years. Retire from military will full pension at 38yo for the rest of my life. Then just fly commercial like 3 days a week and make another $250k/year until I want to retire.
i actually wanted to do air force. but learned that you need good vision. i also don't really like taking orders

part of me thinks the army right now would be smart. they're offering 50k to people joining now. but im working with a guy whos in the military. he's like a first major or something. and he still has to do chit on the weekends and i guess lead bootcamps and stuff. so, on top of the orders thing sounds like a lot of forced "fun" you need to attend. while also being signed into a contract for x amount of time

i'd say if you could do military for a small bit. then tradie until like 45. and either go to school in between or do it after is the best. you can always go to school. and entry level may be rough BUT if you did tradie right you should have a lot of money AND OR maybe you choose a college degree where entry isn't that bad
post 1672785313 12-13-2022, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i actually wanted to do air force. but learned that you need good vision. i also don't really like taking orders

part of me thinks the army right now would be smart. they're offering 50k to people joining now. but im working with a guy whos in the military. he's like a first major or something. and he still has to do chit on the weekends and i guess lead bootcamps and stuff. so, on top of the orders thing sounds like a lot of forced "fun" you need to attend. while also being signed into a contract for x amount of time

i'd say if you could do military for a small bit. then tradie until like 45. and either go to school in between or do it after is the best. you can always go to school. and entry level may be rough BUT if you did tradie right you should have a lot of money AND OR maybe you choose a college degree where entry isn't that bad
why would you ever go to college in 2022? trades pay far more, better hours / flexible locations, more relaxed, and low / no student debt
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post 1672785743 12-13-2022, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
LOL ok Karen McKarenface. Please enlighten us from your experience as a military pilot.
Well I mean...there's simple things like the fact that you have to be an officer (which you won't be at 18) to become a pilot.

You could at least know some basics before making an ass out of yourself like this.
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d⏩
Hence why they were all ordered to take the shot - can’t afford to be paying people a pension for 40+ years. Take the jab so you die at 45-60 years old max
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
LOL ok Karen McKarenface. Please enlighten us from your experience as a military pilot.
He ain't being a Karen. Dude he replied to said join Airforce at 18 and become a pilot.

In order to be a pilot, you need to be an Officer, in order to be an officer, you need to have a bachelors degree at minimum. Sorry boyo, tradies can't be pilots in the military.

Even then, you aren't guaranteed to become an officer in the military just because you have a bachelors, you need to complete officer candidate school.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
LOL ok Karen McKarenface. Please enlighten us from your experience as a military pilot.
It's actually not how it works.
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Originally Posted By LuvVag⏩
He ain't being a Karen. Dude he replied to said join Airforce at 18 and become a pilot.

In order to be a pilot, you need to be an Officer, in order to be an officer, you need to have a bachelors degree at minimum. Sorry boyo, tradies can't be pilots in the military.

Even then, you aren't guaranteed to become an officer in the military just because you have a bachelors, you need to complete officer candidate school.
And then, get picked up for a rated (flying) spot, and then get into a "pilot" spot, because there are other rated jobs that aren't pilots.

Then fly for 10-14 years, usually tapering down to an office job for the last bit of one's career. Eventually you'll fly very little.
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I wanted to do something similar to this but I graduated HS at the height of the War in Iraq/Afganistan and I would have most definitely been deployed. I most likely would have been a medic but I wasnt a fan of dying in a desert because Bush wanted to settle a score his daddy couldn't finish during Desert Storm..

Moreover I really wanted to be in the Airforce, but my vision sucks. With all those redflags steering me away I just took the normie college route and racked up debt.
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There's actually a reason why so many get out after 4 years. When you join, it's literally your life.

****, I was a military brat growing up, you're pretty much moving to another state, sometimes another country every couple of years.
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When i was a senior in hs this is the path i wanted to do. Well, without the tradie job after 20 years. But i multiple family members told me not to do it. To think i'd almost be at 20 years if I chose that path really fills me with a regret one of my biggest regrets in life.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
My brother in christ, the entire length of service would be 20 years and would obviously include years of all sorts of training on a specific career path with solid performance to become a military pilot before they have you fly an airplane all over by yourself. My uncle took this route. So did a friend who is now an F-35 pilot. Part of doing so was doing ROTC and getting an engineering degree before going into pilot training.

They clearly don't just toss your average 18yo idiot in the cockpit of an aircraft on day 1 and tell them to figure it out. If that's what you thought I was trying to say, then YOU are the one making an ass out of yourself.
Bro you're a fking moron you have no idea what you are talking about once again. Even after you complete your degree in preferably aerospace engineering and goto flight school very few make it out to become pilots. Probably less than 1%. You being complete idiot would disqualify you immediately. Not everything in life is handed to you just because you say you want it trustfund kid.



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it's a nice option.

pick a nice job. Air Force. Get high enough on the test to quality for something cool. An aircrew job that travels with their aircraft is ideal.
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My buddy's father growing up did this. High ranking military career- lt colonel I think 20 years then retired at 41 to be a cop, went pretty far up in the ranks there too, retired again at 62 with 2 full pensions. Full medical coverage, tons of passive income from social security and those 2 big pensions. Was young looking and in great shape when he retired with a smoking hot young wife, I was quite jelly, but of course was too dumb to take it as a blueprint and do it myself... and now ill work until I die.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
My brother in christ, the entire length of service would be 20 years and would obviously include years of all sorts of training on a specific career path with solid performance to become a military pilot before they have you fly an airplane all over by yourself. My uncle took this route. So did a friend who is now an F-35 pilot. Part of doing so was doing ROTC and getting an engineering degree before going into pilot training.

They clearly don't just toss your average 18yo idiot in the cockpit of an aircraft on day 1 and tell them to figure it out. If that's what you thought I was trying to say, then YOU are the one making an ass out of yourself.
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i wish i went this route srs.

but in highschool they drilled it into our heads that "you need to go to college to become successful" and it's one of the biggest lies we were told.
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
My buddy's father growing up did this. High ranking military career- lt colonel I think 20 years then retired at 41 to be a cop, went pretty far up in the ranks there too, retired again at 62 with 2 full pensions. Full medical coverage, tons of passive income from social security and those 2 big pensions. Was young looking and in great shape when he retired with a smoking hot young wife, I was quite jelly, but of course was too dumb to take it as a blueprint and do it myself... and now ill work until I die.
Had a childhood friend in military intelligence. He was going to do his 20 years and then join the FBI.

Then he got stage 4 colon cancer, his wife left him, and he died.
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