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post 1677920393 02-25-2023, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
you can't.

your insulin levels have to be low and your glyocgen levels have to be low also

it doesn't apply to fake natties
legit not sure if
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post 1677920543 02-25-2023, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
you use drugs though brah
lol i sure hope you don't think this physique is enhanced.
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post 1677920643 02-25-2023, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By smokinal⏩
Lifetime natty bro
Your either a 5”2 Manlet or lying

Most likely both
post 1677921513 02-25-2023, 03:22 PM
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Because calories in < calories out. The end. Go lift.
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post 1677924053 02-25-2023, 04:08 PM
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post 1677924333 02-25-2023, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh⏩
Stfu you fat incel
Settle down there Jaquavarion.

Maybe you can make yourself useful here by providing entertainment?

Can you dance while smoking crack and juggling watermelons?

If not just send somebody you know, whoever's best at it
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1677924463 02-25-2023, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Settle down there Jaquavarion.

Maybe you can make yourself useful here by providing entertainment?

Can you dance while smoking crack and juggling watermelons?

If not just send somebody you know, whoever's best at it
Strong, racism. Only further proves how your argument has no merit when you have to turn to insults.
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post 1677924593 02-25-2023, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Strong, racism. Only further proves how your argument has no merit when you have to turn to insults.
Yawn Timmy

He started with the insults and no surprise that he isn't able to keep up.

Maybe if there was like a grand prize of some used Air Jordan's and a giant crack rock for motivation?

Even if not for him I'm sure it could motivate plenty of people he knows into maybe ghostwriting for him.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
post 1677924663 02-25-2023, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
This, I like how everyone disagreeing with you is not natty or BBCs (which is effectively like being on celltech).
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post 1677925043 02-25-2023, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
This, I like how everyone disagreeing with you is not natty or BBCs (which is effectively like being on celltech).
Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
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Are you guys arguing that you would gain weight eating 1000 calories of bread? Obviously macros still somewhat matter from a body composition perspective and if you eat low protein you'll lose more muscle with as well fat, but Cico is still the most important factor when trying to lose weight.
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post 1677925313 02-25-2023, 04:33 PM
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For most of us CICO is king. If you’re advanced enough that you have to make micro tweaks to your diet to see results, you’re already diced or as big as you can get with the level of leanness you want.

It’s like noob stick boys bitching about wrist angle when curling, or toe direction when doing leg curls while rocking 20” thighs.
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post 1677925453 02-25-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
At 1000 calories or straight up fasting levels, you'll lose weight. I can't speak for him but what I'm talking about is in my experience, the calculating your TDEE and subtracting 500 calories approach doesn't work. Metabolism is just going to adapt to the new daily calories.

What has worked for me is: keto, fasting, cardio.
You sure?

I mean after all, some black kid in his 20's does disagree with you.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1677925703 02-25-2023, 04:43 PM
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Also LMFAO how the mongs ITT don't understand watching carbs is watching calories by extension.

BRB which magical calorically dense, nutritious foods with zero carbs are people living off?

Do you know anybody on the all-butter diet because I don't.

Oh, OK so your retarded logic only actually works in ridiculous imaginary scenarios?

BRB I'm gonna keep my carbs under 50g daily so I can eat 4000 calories of butter.

Makes total sense dumb ass.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
post 1677925833 02-25-2023, 04:45 PM
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****ing retarded Riquavio up there doesn't realize that him telling me that losing weight is that simple is like me telling him how simple it is to build calves.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
At 1000 calories or straight up fasting levels, you'll lose weight. I can't speak for him but what I'm talking about is in my experience, the calculating your TDEE and subtracting 500 calories approach doesn't work. Metabolism is just going to adapt to the new daily calories.

What has worked for me is: keto, fasting, cardio.
Oh ok. Yeah I can see how Keto and fasting are more convenient since you don't have to constantly be tracking cals to stay in a deficit.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Are you guys arguing that you would gain weight eating 1000 calories of bread? Obviously macros still somewhat matter from a body composition perspective and if you eat low protein you'll lose more muscle with as well fat, but Cico is still the most important factor when trying to lose weight.
if you are already fat/insulin resistant and reduce your calories to 1k over a period of time, and most of those calories come from carbs/processed added sugary foods. your body will just burn muscle and crash it's metabolism to compensate for the deficit. it cannot access fat to make up the energy difference because insulin is high which doesn't allow fat to be accessed for energy.

you'll end up skinny fat.

yes you lose weight but you will not get lean.

maybe once all LBM is gone, you will start to lose some fat at a slower pace until you are just bone.

fasting though on 0 calories is completely different and doesn't damage your metabolism. it actually jacks up GH to protect your LBM, and you lost mostly fat. it's also the fastest way to fix your insulin levels ~3 weeks to get them back to normal levels depending on the damage.
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post 1677926733 02-25-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
if you are already fat/insulin resistant and reduce your calories to 1k over a period of time, and most of those calories come from carbs/processed added sugary foods. your body will just burn muscle and crash it's metabolism to compensate for the deficit. it cannot access fat to make up the energy difference because insulin is high which doesn't allow fat to be accessed for energy.

you'll end up skinny fat.

yes you lose weight but you will not get lean.

maybe once all LBM is gone, you will start to lose some fat at a slower pace until you are just bone.

fasting though on 0 calories is completely different and doesn't damage your metabolism. it actually jacks up GH to protect your LBM, and you lost mostly fat. it's also the fastest way to fix your insulin levels ~3 weeks to get them back to normal levels depending on the damage.
Yeah I don't disagree with this. Source of cals definitely matter if you're trying to get shredded.
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post 1677927433 02-25-2023, 05:16 PM
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to add to argument, I will say that I can fast 23 hours and exercise but when I consume a carb heavy post workout I wake u the next day at higher weight.

I can not workout and fast for 16, and consume a low carb meal and wake up the next day at a lower weight.
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post 1677927503 02-25-2023, 05:17 PM
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I've seen so much conflicting info regarding nutrition out there. Pisses me off. It changes all the time

But I was prob in my best shape when I did 6 small meals a day and ate ~every 2 hours

With complex carbs over simple and low fat + high protein
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Originally Posted By Jadedfadedisbae⏩
to add to argument, I will say that I can fast 23 hours and exercise but when I consume a carb heavy post workout I wake u the next day at higher weight.

I can not workout and fast for 16, and consume a low carb meal and wake up the next day at a lower weight.
So you gain weight whether you eat high carbs or low carb after fasting? Sound like you are over eating when you break your fast or need to stop fasting. (Ded fkn Srs)
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The best part to me was some retard kid telling me I don't know what I'm doing.

1. I've been in the gym about as long as he's been alive.

2. 99% chance he won't look remotely as good at 40 as I do right now.

3. LMFAO at acting hubristic like you know everything at like 25 years of age.

I was eating anything and everything at that age and all I had to do was workout to keep lean.

Guy doesn't understand I've seen 100 of him come and go, naive young retards who swear being in shape is so easy.

You see them a few years later looking like absolute **** after reality catches up to them.



****ing tiny headed retard
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
The best part to me was some retard kid telling me I don't know what I'm doing.

1. I've been in the gym about as long as he's been alive.

2. 99% chance he won't look remotely as good at 40 as I do right now.

3. LMFAO at acting hubristic like you know everything at like 25 years of age.

I was eating anything and everything at that age and all I had to do was workout to keep lean.

Guy doesn't understand I've seen 100 of him come and go, naive young retards who swear being in shape is so easy.

You see them a few years later looking like absolute **** after reality catches up to them.



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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
you use drugs though brah
Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Your either a 5”2 Manlet or lying

Most likely both
Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
This, I like how everyone disagreeing with you is not natty or BBCs (which is effectively like being on celltech).
I guess I'll take these as compliments because I'm 5-9, 53 yrs old now, I think that avi was 51yrs old...and lifetime natty with piss test results to prove it.
Whatever...cope all you want.

The reason people think carbs make you fat is that most carb heavy foods are calorie heavy as well. When I prep for shows, I have a "budget" of cals if you will. So you have to pick which foods to drop to abide by cico/iifym.
I cut at ~1700 cals per day. So I only have 1700 to "spend". So, to keep proteins high at ~160g per day, you have to budget your cals in order to do this. That said, carbs are the first to go. I can't "spend" cals on carbs as I want to spend them on proteins...follow?

I know numbers are hard; even harder for most of you to comprehend what I'm saying; even harder than that is your willpower to stay on such a plan for ~3-6 months.

I don't have to prove anything to you as my results speak for themselves. Again, I've been doing this yo-yo twice per year and the program works time after time. I can tell you, to the pound, what I'll weigh 8 months from now.

You're welcome for the free nutrition coaching.
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Originally Posted By smokinal⏩
I guess I'll take these as compliments because I'm 5-9, 53 yrs old now, I think that avi was 51yrs old...and lifetime natty with piss test results to prove it.
Whatever...cope all you want.

The reason people think carbs make you fat is that most carb heavy foods are calorie heavy as well. When I prep for shows, I have a "budget" of cals if you will. So you have to pick which foods to drop to abide by cico/iifym.
I cut at ~1700 cals per day. So I only have 1700 to "spend". So, to keep proteins high at ~160g per day, you have to budget your cals in order to do this. That said, carbs are the first to go. I can't "spend" cals on carbs as I want to spend them on proteins...follow?

I know numbers are hard; even harder for most of you to comprehend what I'm saying; even harder than that is your willpower to stay on such a plan for ~3-6 months.

I don't have to prove anything to you as my results speak for themselves. Again, I've been doing this yo-yo twice per year and the program works time after time. I can tell you, to the pound, what I'll weigh 8 months from now.



You're welcome for the free nutrition coaching.
Taking over the counter medication to dry you out doesn’t count as natty
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I look feel and preform best when dieting with a higher carb higher protein lower fat ratio. This is both Natty & non Natty experience. Everyone is different tho
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz⏩
I look feel and preform best when dieting with a higher carb higher protein lower fat ratio. This is both Natty & non Natty experience. Everyone is different tho
Same
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Do you guys really believe that someone who wasn't natty would go online and lie about it?
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Do you guys really believe that someone who wasn't natty would go online and lie about it?
Why are you like this
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Why are you like this
Severely allergic to bull****.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Taking over the counter medication to dry you out doesn’t count as natty
I've never done any type of diuretic.
I drink 1.5 cups of red wine the night before a show and manage my salt and water starting about 3 days out, and again the morning of a show.
Believe it or not bro, some guys actually read, learn and work hard to get where they want to be, and not just take short cuts.
Just because you can't stick to a plan doesn't mean I can't.
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  4. You may not edit your posts