They never developed antibodies or T cells?

"T cells don't exist because dielectric and disorder and order and so it could not happen. Think?"

3 of my wife's clients died, I know about 10 that were hospitalized, and everyone that received the jab has had covid at least twice that I know of. Meanwhile myself, my wife, my brother, my mother, and about 5 close friends caught Covid early 2020, and haven't been sick since..so I'm guessing natural infection is far better than being jabbed. But last I checked, Corna vaccines are notoriously problematic ( mostly due to rapid weakening) and have never been successful.

Ubiquitous viruses are fought and defeated primarily by the T-Cell lymphocytes within our immune systems, Not from natural or artificially implanted antibodies.

But hey keep trying, maybe one day you'll post something intelligent

Are you comparing those vaccines to the Covid “vaccine?”

Sorry to hear that

But, acquired immunity refers to development of antibodies and t cells, which occurs following both infection and vaccination

Only insofar as there are different formulations from different manufacturers.

yea, so far no one has immunity that took the jab though

Do you even know what a T cell is? List some different types of T cells and their functions.

This is a fallacy I've repeatedly addressed over the 2 years I've been around.



Infection can be solid--like 85%+ protection against reinfection--but vaccines are somewhat better and last longer than natural infection immunity. The problem with the natural infection argument is that it typically doesn't account for the extreme volatility of natural infections.

Even though the average antibody titre rivals that of a one vaccine dose, there is still a large degree of volatility. In infected people, some have high responses, some have low and some have no detectable at all. Vaccines, by contrast, give a stable high level response in their recipients. And IMO the severity of infection is not the only determinant of your antibody titre, there are likely other factors.


So with vaccines, there is no gamble apart from the minimal risk of side effects. With infection there is a small chance of matching the vaccinated response. There's a good chance of a moderate response, with a probability of non-protection at 9 months. And then there's the small chance of minimal protection.

So, it's downright stupid to assume an asymptomatic infection has given you great immunity. If you weren't hospitalised, don't count on your immunity. I haven't even started on all the other side effects and long term complications you're gambling with either.


There's no reason not to get the vaccine beyond the minimal risk of side effects. I can only write it off to laziness or conspiracy-thinking. Or, as I said the other day, it's a mistake in risk management reasoning where you think the known and more significant risk is safer than a trivial and unknown risk.

sure, can you answer my question first that I asked you previously?
Here it is again..


you had seen the prior Governor of NJ (Chris Christie)catch Covid before the jab was available. So if we all saw this middle aged, overweight, diabetic, whom had nothing but health issues the entire time he was in office beat Covid in less that a FUHKING WEEKEND…why the fuk would you think you needed to take the jab?

Pretty sure the wife and I got Covid in Dec of 2019. We are both in constant contact with sick people as we both own our own businesses, neither one of us have been sick since Dec of 2019, same goes for friends and family that caught Covid early on, none of them had have Covid since, while everyone I know that has been jabbed has been sick continually. Care to explain that..?

Nobody asked me that, but you should never base medical decisions on a single anecdote. Across large randomized double blinded controlled clinical trials, the vaccines were shown to be effective and reduce risk.

Now you answer my question. Bonus: do T cells evolve?

The deranged Libs have been wrong about EVERYTHING

Bases his beliefs on personal anecdote instead of rigorous scientific data. There is a fallacy based on this, it's called Person Who reasoning.


Paul Drool, not even once.

Why should anecdotal evidence be ignored, it's what all other evidence is based on dummy

Again.Why should anecdotal evidence be ignored, it's what all other evidence is based on dummy?

T-Cells are types of white blood cell in the immune system. 2 types. ..Cytotoxic T-cells, these destroy infected cells, and Helper T-cells these send signals that direct other immune cells to combat infection.

I don't see the vaccines waning infection whatsoever, I see the exact opposite actually. Weird because Ratfish is in the same city as you, and he reported the same..can you explain..?

are you disagreeing?

dude...you are such a fukin weirdo

lmao there are way more than 2 types but ok

Ratfish is a drunk nazi wtf does he know? No offense to Ratfish.

Umm..the dude is black, and you are the only Nazi.
Stay mad EhRhab.

you tell us.

Acquired immunity (development of antibodies and t cells) had been demonstrated in response to both infection and vaccination.

Only your vaccines aren't helping lol. You've got people who are totally vaxxed and boosted getting the sniffles still - AND you've got people who haven't had any of them who haven't gotten it at all.

And save me your standard Ronaholic party lines of "It was never meant to prevent it!" and "They would have been more sicker if it wasn't for their Fauci Fluid injections!"

I've had Covid twice, I'm unvaccinated, according to you I should either be in the hospital, suffering long term complications or dead.

Now enlighten us, Mr wannabe intellectual, why should I get the jab?

None if them are mine, but they have helped and continue to do so.

He's an communist authoritarian wannabe, not a Nazi.

Different formulations from different manufacturers, none are 99% effective

Helped what?

When your sacred Fauci Fluid vaccinations were first rolled out they were going to save the world, remember? "You won't get covid if you get vaxxed!" Then the vaxxed people ended up getting the sniffles anyway, and it was blamed it on the UN-vaxxed!

Now stop copy and pasting "science" for a moment, use your fuking head, and tell us how the hell that even works.

I'm telling you bro there's something completely rotten with your sacred Rona. And all you Ronaholics who keep defending the narrative after three years look dumb AF.

Will yeah, it's a virus and has caused health issues for many, many people. However, it's neither mine nor sacred.