fukkin lol @ smelly dirkabro from Dirkastan.

Smelly? Aren;t 60% of Americans obese.... imagine the smell between your flaps... gross.

Bro your women have chest hair. fukkin lol.

Don;t you chop up the genitalia of young kids to appease a bunch of paedo ****ggots?

Do we know what targets Russia used the Kinzhal missiles on? Must have been pretty important





“The Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a counterattack on Bakhmut (Artyomovsk).

According to Ukrainian sources, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is planning an attack in several directions, involving the most combat-ready units of up to 55,000 people.
Groups are formed in Slavyansk, Chasov Yar, and other cities in the Bakhmut direction of the front to deliver “cutting” blows.”'


IDK how true this is, but Zelensky did say a day or two ago that he ordered the command not to retreat in Bakhmut

Seems like the US tried to extend Russia, but ended up extending themselves. Embarrasing.

Ukraine getting that ass WHOOPED.

Didn't read, but guessing:

"goyim sheep soygoy BLILLIONZ"

They're entering stage 2 of operation fuk around and find out

Hypersonic is a term used to describe platforms that can travel at speeds in excess of Mach 5, or about 3,836 mph, but the term has been adopted for advanced new weapons systems being developed all around the world. The Kinzhal does travel at hypersonic speeds, but it is not one of these advanced new weapons.

The truth is, the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missile is actually little more than a conventional air-launched ballistic missile with a design that dates back to the 1980s. It has benefited a great deal from both intentional and less-than-intentional misconceptions about this new class of weapons, often cited as a reason the United States is lagging behind Russia in a hypersonic arms race (that, as we've discussed before, isn't quite what it seems either). Hypersonic speed isn't actually all that special, but there are new weapons that leverage hypersonic speeds to achieve objectives in new or different ways. The Kinzhal, however, just isn't one of them.

The word hypersonic has a cutting-edge connotation to it, and recent media coverage of these technologies has treated the realm of hypersonic flight like it's right out of a science-fiction movie. But hypersonic platforms have actually already been around for decades, and you're almost certainly already familiar with a number of them.

Modern 'hypersonic weapons' usually come in one of two categories (and the Kinzhal doesn't fit into either). Today, when people talk about new hypersonic weapons, they're usually referring to one of two kinds that are currently in development or in service with China, Russia, and the United States: hypersonic glide vehicles and hypersonic cruise missiles.

Hypersonic Glide Vehicles (HGVs) aren't all that different than the warheads on traditional long-range ballistic missiles, at least in the early stages of their flight path. They are carried into the atmosphere via high-velocity rocket boosters just like traditional ICBMs, though often not quite as high. The missile then deploys one or more glide vehicles that rely on momentum and their control surfaces to manage their high-speed descent as they close with their targets.

Hypersonic cruise missiles, on the other hand, rely on an advanced propulsion system called a scramjet. A scramjet, or supersonic combusting ramjet, is a variation on longstanding ramjet technology, but allows combustion to take place while air flows through the engine at supersonic speeds. Because scramjets are really only efficient at these high speeds, these missiles are often deployed from fast-moving aircraft or rely on a different form of propulsion in the first part of their flight path (like a rocket). From there, hypersonic cruise missiles operate much like traditional cruise missiles–at least in theory. They follow a much more horizontal flight path than boost-glide vehicles or ballistic missiles and maneuver using control surfaces just like an aircraft would circumvent or defeat defenses.

In practice, these platforms are far more difficult and expensive to build than traditional cruise missiles, however — and to date, no nation has successfully fielded a scramjet-powered weapon. Raytheon will most likely be the first. The US is the only country on Earth withactual, functioning hypersonic weapons nearing operational capacity.Plenty online about these and recent tests from Raytheon.

Russia bills the Kinzhal as 'hypersonic' to help sell weapons. Russia just can't afford to mass-produce advanced aircraft like the Su-57 stealth fighter or tanks like the T-14 Armata without foreign interests footing the bill. And in order to attract those foreign buyers, Russia must present the image of a nation capable of developing weapons that are on par or even superior to that of powerful nations like the United States and China. So by taking advantage of the general public's misconceptions when it comes to things like the term "hypersonic," Russia is able to convey an image of a 21st-century military power for a real bargain. In other words, Russia hopes to secure the funding it needs to actually develop and field advanced, cutting-edge tech by presenting the Kinzhal and other dated or poorly functioning weapons as advanced cutting-edge tech.

While it's technically accurate to call the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal a hypersonic missile, it's accurate in the same way we might call Hitler's V-2 rocket a hypersonic missile. Modern hypersonic weapons like China's DF-ZF or America's Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM) belong to completely different classes of weapons.




Just ethered you. Nothing you say takes away my veteran card, baldy. Fukkin lol @ Russia's poverty ass 80s weapons it tries to repaint and call "new ADvancED Hyp3rS00niCs!!!"

Bakhmut/Population
73,212 (2020)


fukkin lol @ Russia

You mean the war?

You ethered yourself. Last you argued, Russia had no such weapons.

I skimmed through your admittance that Russia has produced and is using hypersonic missiles. I appreciate you being a man about it.

It seems the definition of a hypersonic missile is somewhat subjective, although a basic search says that ballistic missiles leave the atmosphere and use gravity to fall back to Earth on a fixed trajectory. Hypersonics stay in the atmosphere and are manuverable.

Does the Kinzhal fit the first or second definition? And if it doesn't fit the 2nd definition , what would your definition of a hypersonic missile be? And if they can't be shot down does it matter?

You mean the war?

It is a hypersonic ballistic missile.

Aerodynamic definition: mach V system or greater.

Russia has developed interatmosphere hypersonics as a byproduct of missile defense from European HGV. Any simple response to the technology should be as easy as strapping an engine with atmospheric hypersonic capability to their current air defense systems to intercept the kinhzal.

I'll wait for anyone to tell me what nation has done this in response since all they did was make a missile from the 80s go fast.

there is no war, its a special operation, it will be over soon ������

memcop:

"Su-57 is 5th Generation!!!"

Another russian crock of chit. 5th gen requires stealth.

F22 nozzles:



Massively reduced IR signature from jet exhaust

Su-57 nozzles:



4th gen. Massive IR. 0 stealth.



Russian "hypersonic" missles = fake
Russian "5th gen" fighters = fake



Keep coping memcope.

Russia has their 1st 5th generation slated for flight in 2024. It is still in development.

All ballistic missiles are hypersonic.

"Hypersonic weapons" to connotate new advanced forms of weaponry isn't applied to kinzhal. That was the argument. You lost it.

Literally ALL they did was make an 80s missile go ballistic - up - then proceed on a terminal phase likeevery single ballistic missile before it all the way back to the 40s. . That's literally all it is.

You're attempting to make a semantical argument.

Hypersonic systems, no matter your opinion on categorizing modern weapons yet to be categorized, are above mach V. Period.

This is a very poor attempt at trying to save face.

Russia markets Su-57 as 5th generation. It is currently flying. Keep failing.

So now you're arguing a 4th generation plane is a 5th generation plane because Russia said so?

Like the US, they are behind in missiles/missile defense technology, just as Russia is behind in airpower. Russia is poor and out of necessity, invested in missile technology while we in the US built our military around our strategy of war fighting.

I swear you're retarded.