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Thread: Is God necessary for a civilized society?

post 1678797183 03-11-2023, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By NeoTheCatt⏩
You realize the royal family is a bunch of ****philes who literally worship satan ?

Like not a edgey Anton Lavey type but as
Inverse Christianity ?

Lmao
worshipping Satan means you acknowledge the existence of God. You can't have one without the other, you retard.

Hence, why I wrote that devil worshipper consequently proves God exist.

When the Elites worship the devil, it doesn't disapprove God. It quite literally proves that they believe God exist, they just choose to worship the devil instead.

Like I said, you're one of these midwit smart-dumb nykka.
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
Tom Brady, Tim Tebow, Kurt Warner, Russel Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Christian Mcaffrey, DK Metcalf, Dwight Howard, Stephen Curry, Kobe Bryant, etc., etc., the list goes literally forever stretching back throughout history of athletics,

yeah, those guys are just all Christian/religious losers lulz.

NeoTheCope.
Not an atheist btw dude. I have spiritual beliefs but organized religion is bull**** and used for hysteria and fear mongering.

Leave your moms basement and you’ll realize that your wrong.
post 1678797373 03-11-2023, 08:13 PM
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someone should do that meme with the IQ bell curve meme.

the lowest IQ and the highest IQ/political Elite/Royal family occupy both ends of the Theist spectrum, while the retarded midwits in the middle are the atheists.
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Originally Posted By NeoTheCatt⏩
I’ve only seen the opposite in real life

Ugly guys who can’t get any cope by saying they’re religious and waiting for marriage

The Bible says adultery is wrong which doesn’t just mean cheating on a spouse that includes hooking up with randos

It also says masturbation and porn are wrong too so absenteeism for most isn’t realistic by the Bible’s standards

I’m pretty sure someone who gets laid frequently wouldn’t be religious lol

The coping incel is sinning beyond belief too but using gods forgiveness to excuse himself
waht???

Most Conservatives believe in God..look at the people at a Trump rally vs a Biden gathering..

Hell look at their Representatives...

Kristi Noem Governor of South Dakota.
Christian Conservative








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Lori Lightfoot.
Atheist Lib Lesbian Mayor of Chicago













I'll post a pic of me and my wife, compare it to any atheist and his hog ITT if you like as well..
post 1678797443 03-11-2023, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By NeoTheCatt⏩
Not an atheist btw dude. I have spiritual beliefs but organized religion is bull**** and used for hysteria and fear mongering.

Leave your moms basement and you’ll realize that your wrong.
sick rejection of reality, bro.

Once I leave my basement, will that disprove that 99% of all Chad athletes are religious?

you are a midwit through and through.
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
worshipping Satan means you acknowledge the existence of God. You can't have one without the other, you retard.

Hence, why I wrote that devil worshipper consequently proves God exist.

When the Elites worship the devil, it doesn't disapprove God. It quite literally proves that they believe God exist, they just choose to worship the devil instead.

Like I said, you're one of these midwit smart-dumb nykka.
wut
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Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
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Protestants are all the same.

You realized your soul is a confused failure when you do not heed common sense wisdom popular spirituality observes, so you say the popular spirituality is wrong because it does not understand you suffering from disorganization.
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Originally Posted By Paul
waht???

Most Conservatives believe in God..look at the people at a Trump rally vs a Biden gathering..

Hell look at their Representatives...

Kristi Noem Governor of South Dakota.
Christian Conservative








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Lori Lightfoot.
Atheist Lib Lesbian Mayor of Chicago













I'll post a pic of me and my wife, compare it to any atheist and his hog ITT if you like as well..
Once again you’re conflating politics and religion and using black and white thinking with cherry picking

Conservative≠Christian

Liberal≠ not Christian

Actually if we’re being honest most people are actually moderates or somewhere in the middle

Posting photos of rallies doesn’t prove much

You could take a photo from a Florida trump rally and compare it to a Seattle Biden rally

Ofc people in Florida are more attractive because they’re more physically vain (not saying taking care of yourself is bad either )

Most young attractive women are actually liberal because their gender heavily skews that way until they get much older

Conservative women hardly exist anywhere near a sizable big city unless they’re old

I never even said religious people are necessarily ugly either I said it’s more likely to be used as cope from people who can’t get laid because it’s a convenient excuse
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩
What does "living life on life's terms" even mean?

When society is rife with drugs, excess food, porn/promiscuity and other pleasures that provide instant gratification, of course people are going to deny the existence of God. It makes it easier for their subconscious to believe their hedonism and degeneracy is without consequence. Dissolution of boundaries is why we're seeing clown world evolve the way it is.
It means radically accepting what is going on vs what you think SHOULD being going.

Once you start saying "should" you enter into a delusional mental state.

For instance, you turned right and went the wrong direction. You can get angry and very upset by thinking I SHOULD have turned left and then you start thinking about all the benefits of having turned left instead of right and so on, thus making you more upset.

Alternately....

You can accept that you acknowledge that you made the wrong turn and have to stop and figure out what you need to do to get back on the path you wanted to travel.

That is dealing with life on it's own terms, not your fantasy terms.

This thread topic is a "should" topic.
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post 1678798763 03-11-2023, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Jon Jones

Tyson Fury

Floyd Mayweather

Manny Pacquiao

All Christians and champions. All would whoop your ass.
Not in an intellectual battle and if they touched me, they would be in jail and then paying me civil costs, lol.

Meanwhile...what about all of those guys is NOT Christian...you ****ing retard?

Clues...greed, thinking about harming others, etc.
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post 1678799163 03-11-2023, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
This is pure feminine projection. .
Dude, it's feminine to believe in magic and supernatural fathers in some ethereal realm.

Talking about what is real and how the world actually operates and what people really believe is manly.

Most of you are only "Christian" because your family forced the nonsense on you because they were too stupid to reject some jewish nonsense forced on Europe for economic reasons long ago.

If you were in another country, you would believe in another religion because you'd be the same coward.
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post 1678799513 03-11-2023, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
It means radically accepting what is going on vs what you think SHOULD being going.

Once you start saying "should" you enter into a delusional mental state.

For instance, you turned right and went the wrong direction. You can get angry and very upset by thinking I SHOULD have turned left and then you start thinking about all the benefits of having turned left instead of right and so on, thus making you more upset.

Alternately....

You can accept that you acknowledge that you made the wrong turn and have to stop and figure out what you need to do to get back on the path you wanted to travel.

That is dealing with life on it's own terms, not your fantasy terms.

This thread topic is a "should" topic.
So you believe religious people are the least likely to accept reality and most likely to get angry and very upset about life's misfortunes? Interesting. Obviously a very distorted and absurd take, but interesting nonetheless.

I'm looking at our current clown world and suggesting that a Godless society is the cause. That if we adopted and maintained traditional boundaries that we would be better off. That's the whole premise of this thread.

You saying this thread topic is a "should" topic is pretty wild.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Dude, it's feminine to believe in magic and supernatural fathers in some ethereal realm.

Talking about what is real and how the world actually operates and what people really believe is manly.

Most of you are only "Christian" because your family forced the nonsense on you because they were too stupid to reject some jewish nonsense forced on Europe for economic reasons long ago.

If you were in another country, you would believe in another religion because you'd be the same coward.
you are incoherently rambling. No where in my post was I talking about Christians.

"if you were born in another country...." is a genetic fallacy. Just because religion was forced on someone, it does not logically follows that the religion itself is not true.

Operating on what is real and how the world operate is manly. That much we can agree on.

So how do you reconcile the fact that all the historically great combat fighters, warrior class, soldier class, have been religious men? Are they weak? Are they feminine? How do you further reconcile the fact that you are grouped up with absolute losers on the left like wincel, antifas, and jews who promote atheism? After all, atheism is just another branch under the Leftism umbrella.
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
you are incoherently rambling. No where in my post was I talking about Christians.

"if you were born in another country...." is a genetic fallacy. Just because religion was forced on someone, it does not logically follows that the religion itself is not true.

Operating on what is real and how the world operate is manly. That much we can agree on.

So how do you reconcile the fact that all the historically great combat fighters, warrior class, soldier class, have been religious men? Are they weak? Are they feminine? How do you further reconcile the fact that you are grouped up with absolute losers on the left like wincel, antifas, and jews who promote atheism? After all, atheism is just another branch under the Leftism umbrella.
All such people were not religious.

The people who started the US were not religious and took steps to make sure religion dies out.

That's why we have freedom of religion, to kill it.

In addition, you can't be a "warrior" and be a Christian so anyone who says that might as well claim to be an alien.

More likely, they were lying to appeal to popular sentiments.
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩
So you believe religious people are the least likely to accept reality and most likely to get angry and very upset about life's misfortunes? Interesting. Obviously a very distorted and absurd take, but interesting nonetheless.

I'm looking at our current clown world and suggesting that a Godless society is the cause. That if we adopted and maintained traditional boundaries that we would be better off. That's the whole premise of this thread.

You saying this thread topic is a "should" topic is pretty wild.
It's weak and ****gity to say "an absurd take" any not counter my argument.

You can't counter my comment that this is a "should" topic either.

That's because you cannot explain how praying to gods and hoping for divine interventions is rational, lol.

You are a weak liar and that's why you defend the cowardly tendencies of religious people.

They are just cowards.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
It's weak and ****gity to say "an absurd take" any not counter my argument.

You can't counter my comment that this is a "should" topic either.

That's because you cannot explain how praying to gods and hoping for divine interventions is rational, lol.

You are a weak liar and that's why you defend the cowardly tendencies of religious people.

They are just cowards.
You didn't make an argument to support your assertion though. There's nothing to counter. You're essentially saying "religious people are weak, because I said so".

Just like you calling me a "weak liar" just now. You haven't provided any evidence that I've lied about anything. You're just making unfounded statements that hold no weight in reality.
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The metaphysics is true. Call it whatever trick you want.

The fact things fail does not make the right way to go not the right way to go.

It's like arguing someone born without anyone to learn language from is proof language is not a good way to communicate.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Dude, it's feminine to believe in magic and supernatural fathers in some ethereal realm.

Talking about what is real and how the world actually operates and what people really believe is manly.

Most of you are only "Christian" because your family forced the nonsense on you because they were too stupid to reject some jewish nonsense forced on Europe for economic reasons long ago.

If you were in another country, you would believe in another religion because you'd be the same coward.
Just the opposite. Weak people are atheists. They have no footing in life. They sway with the wind. They let their temptations rule their life and have no fortitude. It's easy to be an atheist, and living how you please to, it's a childish way of growing through life. It's difficult to resist what you know to be wrong, and stand you're ground. Atheists are the weakest people that walk the earth. Atheist are also the most untrustworthy people in the world, how can you trust a man that cannot control his desires?
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The satanists that run the world quite litirally think that the atheist are lower creations than the Christians.

Remember that people who deny the bible also deny lucifer and satan - and lucifer wouldn't exist without God.
Originally Posted By Paul
Just the opposite. Weak people are atheists. They have no footing in life. They sway with the wind. They let their temptations rule their life and have no fortitude. It's easy to be an atheist, and living how you please to, it's a childish way of growing through life. It's difficult to resist what you know to be wrong, and stand you're ground. Atheists are the weakest people that walk the earth. Atheist are also the most untrustworthy people in the world, how can you trust a man that cannot control his desires?
Even the elite who run the world and make the 'big decisions' think that atheists are a bunch of retards who fell for the biggest lie of history - mankind descended from apes.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
The satanists that run the world quite litirally think that the atheist are lower creations than the Christians.

Remember that people who deny the bible also deny lucifer and satan - and lucifer wouldn't exist without God.



Even the elite who run the world and make the 'big decisions' think that atheists are a bunch of retards who fell for the biggest lie of history - mankind descended from apes.
It's the truth.
They put out Planet of The Apes and atheists legit thought it was a documentary.
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Still waiting on an existence and uniqueness proof for God.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Still waiting on an existence and uniqueness proof for God.
Do the laws of physics exist uniquely
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If not then surely there must be at least one example throughout the entirety of human history of a civilised nation that is without God.

Pretty easy task. Just name a single country, and then the answer to OP's question is no.
A young bull and an old bull were standing atop a hill looking at a bunch of heifers in a field below.

The young bull says "Let's run down this hill and fuk one of those heifers."

The old bull replies "No. Let's walk down there, and fuk them all."
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
Do the laws of physics exist uniquely
Clarify the question. Over what domain? And what specifically do you recognize as "laws of physics"?
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Originally Posted By Paul
It's the truth.
They put out Planet of The Apes and atheists legit thought it was a documentary.
And then you have the 'atheistic' and 'intellectual' miscers on here who are still making 45k/year in a desk job - but they know know it all, yet still can't figure out why the most prominent figures throughout all of history of mankind belong to some fraternity or 'secret' club that requires a code of secrecy..

Why those who run the world go through rituals and perform various forms of sacrifice/sacrificial offerings such as the bohemian grove, caught on tape - yet they 'know it all' and still live in their parent's basement.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Why those who run the world go through rituals and perform various forms of sacrifice/sacrificial offerings such as the bohemian grove, caught on tape - yet they 'know it all' and still live in their parent's basement.
I heard someone observe reaching a class higher than your family inherits more or less requires spiritual transformation. It seems true when I think about it
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
I heard someone observe reaching a class higher than your family inherits more or less requires spiritual transformation. It seems true when I think about it
Higher class? Even a higher class of income requires for you to make a sacrifice of some sort - i.e., in terms of your morals and values.

What did Jesus say about riches again? Oh yeah that it's easier for camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.

Becoming initiated into a fraternity like that might require the full renunciation of your allegiance towards Christ, for example.

I'm not saying to be a broke ass dead beat who does nothing all day - I'm saying that to make so much money that you drive around a super expensive car and live in luxury with a host of creature comforts - you're going to be breaking God's law and trampling on those God wants you to raise up.

How can one have 250k a year when another has 50k and they have an equal amount of sweat on their brow.

I'm talking about even the sort of stuff that senior managers do at their offices to those beneath them in order to maintain their 'profitability' and hold power.
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So is anyone gonna post any definition of "God" followed by some concrete evidence it exists? I don't mean "The evidence is all around you." vague chit...I mean real hardcore evidence. I'd like to see how God factors into this universe too. How does God manipulate matter, space, and energy? Use equations. I want to see concrete math and experimental evidence to at least 7 sigma. No hand waving.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Just the opposite. Weak people are atheists. They have no footing in life. They sway with the wind. They let their temptations rule their life and have no fortitude. It's easy to be an atheist, and living how you please to, it's a childish way of growing through life. It's difficult to resist what you know to be wrong, and stand you're ground. Atheists are the weakest people that walk the earth. Atheist are also the most untrustworthy people in the world, how can you trust a man that cannot control his desires?
This would make perfect sense if religious people didn't behave the exact same way. Nothing you said is exclusive to atheists. The only difference is when religious people do it, they get to absolve themselves of the guilt of being degenerate by begging for forgiveness through prayer. That doesn't make them any better than the atheist.
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩
If we remove the Bible as our anchor in society which tells us what is right and what is wrong, if morality hasn't been given to us from above but rather we've arrived at it from below through majority rules and consensus, wouldn't that mean that eventually every form of degeneracy will be acceptable? What's keeping us fixed at a certain understanding of morality without God?
I love how you presupposed the bible IS our anchor. Its not. We had the same morals thousands of years before the bible. You just admitted you don't understand why murder and ****philia is bad without a book telling you. Scary.
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