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post 1679116953 03-17-2023, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Real talk: Observing this debate over the years, shouldn't the death numbers be exponentially higher if this issue was extreme or is that data being manipulated?
Common sense tells me that when drugs mess people up the database shows this( it just happened to my gf) so why wouldn't this be reflected somewhere?
And what about the cases of myo for older people like 18-90?
actually we tragically junexpectedly lost a golfer friend of mine recently.






He was only 96.
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Originally Posted By Woody-5⏩
think of how bad it would have been if he was unvaccinated
We have no idea what his vaccination status was...
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
We have no idea what his vaccination status was...
we probably never will.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
So, no proof of anything... Do you also believe nobody died of heart attack "at a young age" prior to 2021?

You're making up his vaccination status, then you're making up that the only possible underlying cause of his death was vaccination.

Meanwhile, from2019:

"But research, presented at the2019 conference of the American College of Cardiology, spotlights an alarming trend: a rising incidence of heart attacks in younger adults. The study was the first to compare “young” heart attack survivors (41 to 50 years old) to “very young” survivors (age 40 or younger).The proportion of under-40 adults having a heart attack rose by 2 percent a year for the last 10 years."
https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth...e#.ZBSIKS-B1p8

That's one hell of a time-traveling vaccine!
So heart attacks in young people increased by 2% a year on average (no way that’s link to obesity and increasingly sedentary lifestyles) but spiked 30% in young people within the last year.

No correlation at all.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.


I don't have any beef with you Sam, but this just isn't true no matter how many times you repeat it. There have been studies showing the shots are worse than the virus.




Many countries have ended use of the shots including the UK. Germany has recently gone public claiming 1 in 1000 have serious injury from the shots.




Link:

Other people have said 1 in 1,000 is more like the fatality rate and the injury rate is much higher.



Link:

^^^
3 adverse events per 100 injections.


IMO there has been intentional and sometimes malicious lying at multiple levels. For people who like math stuff [not me], this is about fraud in the Pfizer trial.

https://openvaet.substack.com/p/pfiz...1001-trial-how
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Crazy how literally no one died before the vaccines
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
Crazy how literally no one died before the vaccines


Link:




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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Real talk: Observing this debate over the years, shouldn't the death numbers be exponentially higher if this issue was extreme or is that data being manipulated?
Common sense tells me that when drugs mess people up the database shows this( it just happened to my gf) so why wouldn't this be reflected somewhere?
And what about the cases of myo for older people like 18-90?
The all-cause mortality rate remains elevated above what we would expect even as Covid deaths very very substantially dropped AND we should’ve seen a DECREASE due to the pulling effect of Covid. By that I mean that lots of people at death’s door who would’ve died within a five year timeframe died in 2020. By condensing those deaths into one year we could expect the following years to see a decrease. We also know heart problems have gone up, along with lots of other issues. Sure there could be many variables. The point is, the injection is certainly one of those variables. We don’t know how much of a role it plays because entities seem adamant about covering up for the pharmaceutical companies, certainly in large part due to the financial leverage they apply. This was commonly known in the last and both sides agreed the greed within these companies caused lots of issues. Now for some reason many people seem to think that isn’t the case, or at the very least try their hardest to downplay this aspect when it comes to injections. And again, they were injections delivered in a form that we had/have never successfully managed to implement in a safe and effective way in the past. There are tons of legitimate reasons to be suspicious and skeptical of the entire thing.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.
I dont subscribe to any CT surrounding to the vaccines and there are many other things one needs to consider apart from the heart.... but...

This study with a lot of data points from the UK found that for males under <40 the risk from myo was highest after all vaccines, especially moderna, compared to unvaccinated + natural infection

This study might be flawed to find that only in the male <40yo but to be fair a biological mechanism manifesting as different outcomes among genders and different age groups is well established for many other pharmaceutical interventions, disease progressions etc.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.122.059970

Published and peer-reviewed in a respect journal, study led by University of Oxford PhDs.
Clinical Perspective
What Is New?
We performed an evaluation of the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccine in >42 million vaccinated people 13 years or older, including 21 million people receiving a booster dose, stratified by age and sex.

We extend our previous findings demonstrating that the risk of hospitalization or death from myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 infection is substantially higher than the risk associated with a first dose of ChAdOx1, and a first, second, or booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine.

Associations were stronger in younger men <40 years for all vaccines and after a second dose of mRNA-1273 vaccine, where the risk of myocarditis was higher after vaccination than SARS-CoV-2 infection.

What Are the Clinical Implications?
Our findings will inform recommendations on the type of vaccine offered to younger people and will help to shape public health policy on booster programs enabling an informed discussion of the risk of vaccine associated myocarditis when considering the net benefit of vaccination.
A ****ton of data points as well.

They have chosen young as below 40 because most countries' population age pyramids, including that of the UK, have a close to 50:50 split between below 40 and above 40

Then, biological sex male and female you are talking about 25% of the population.
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
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When will any of these posts attempt to fully showcase how they managed to adjust for possible delayed onset damage from covid (well documented), delays in screening/diagnosis of non-covid related illnesses that would't have gone unnoticed if it wasn't for covid, health accessibility issues?

I have yet to see it.
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ITT: Brainlets perform their favorite activity; jumping to whatever conclusion fits their bias.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
ITT: Brainlets perform their favorite activity; jumping to whatever conclusion fits their bias.
agreed but some research like the one I posted above implies not always a clear cut black - white picture - that got me concerned
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
agreed but some research like the one I posted above implies not always a clear cut black - white picture - that got me concerned
Right, and I’m not disputing that.


But I wonder, how many people on this site are also buying sterons from underground labs while spouting antivax?
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
ITT: Brainlets perform their favorite activity; jumping to whatever conclusion fits their bias.
How many have you gotten bruh?
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
How many have you gotten bruh?
I’m on tren and test right now and guess where I got it from baby

Some guy in a meth lab

You think I’m worried about what’s in my vaccine?

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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I dont subscribe to any CT surrounding to the vaccines and there are many other things one needs to consider apart from the heart.... but...

This study with a lot of data points from the UK found that for males under <40 the risk from myo was highest after all vaccines, especially moderna, compared to unvaccinated + natural infection

This study might be flawed to find that only in the male <40yo but to be fair a biological mechanism manifesting as different outcomes among genders and different age groups is well established for many other pharmaceutical interventions, disease progressions etc.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.122.059970

Published and peer-reviewed in a respect journal, study led by University of Oxford PhDs.



A ****ton of data points as well.

They have chosen young as below 40 because most countries' population age pyramids, including that of the UK, have a close to 50:50 split between below 40 and above 40

Then, biological sex male and female you are talking about 25% of the population.





When will any of these posts attempt to fully showcase how they managed to adjust for possible delayed onset damage from covid (well documented), delays in screening/diagnosis of non-covid related illnesses that would't have gone unnoticed if it wasn't for covid, health accessibility issues?

I have yet to see it.
I can't say that I have found anything much about excess mortality due to delayed onset damage from covid.

For delays in screening/lack of healthcare access I've shared TES work on that few times. If the increases seen were due to a lack of screening/care then you would expect the diseases to follow the same general pattern [same disease types most prevalent, same age groups most highly impacted, same seasonal patterns] and he found none of that.

The ages are different [skewing younger], the types of disease are different [lung cancer deaths went down, some other cancers went way up, and some just blew up from near zero before [appendix], and the seasonality didn't hold to the established patterns.

Though I've been against the shots and pointed out the overall low fatality rate of the virus I haven't said that the virus doesn't exist or that the virus is somehow safe/risk free. I do think it was lab manipulated. This article is about a Moderna cancer gene segment which is in the spike portion of the virus- ultimate effects TBD.

Moderna Patented Cancer Gene Is In Sars-Cov-2 Spike Protein

Link:https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/mo...-is-in?r=pq8cd


I don't know what can be done about the above if true, other than practice good health habits known to prevent cancer. Getting the injections doesn't keep your from being infected with the virus and there is strong evidence that a third injection increases the rate of infection.
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this is sad tho srs. despite him being a jabcel he had so much good chit going for him. why do allegedly smart, scholar-types take these chitty vaccines?
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
We have no idea what his vaccination status was...
Um, if he's been working at MIT, he's vaxxed (unless he got a fake card)
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
ITT: Brainlets perform their favorite activity; jumping to whatever conclusion fits their bias.
Kinda like how if you died in a car crash in 2020, it was a COVID death
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Should have studied statistics on the chance of an unproven drug phucking your life up. Book smart yes, street smart, nah.

Meanwhile i've noticed a spike of deaths occuring in my personal life...like every day on social media someone is posting about this mom or this dad dying and these are fairly healthy folks in their 50's. Seems fishy... can't remember a time when healthy 50 year old folks were dropping dead.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
If the increases seen were due to a lack of screening/care then you would expect the diseases to follow the same general pattern [same disease types most prevalent, same age groups most highly impacted, same seasonal patterns] and he found none of that.

The ages are different [skewing younger], the types of disease are different [lung cancer deaths went down, some other cancers went way up, and some just blew up from near zero before [appendix], and the seasonality didn't hold to the established patterns.
Why would you expect the same pattern? In a singleton simplified example Jane missing her annual breast examination puts her at a much worse progression and total different course and clinical outcome compared to what most Janes experience in a normal time.


Have you at least tried to see any counter arguments for your claims? Just about any?






You will never sit through anyone else explaining things because it doesn't fit your bias and it will be all brushed up to "the people on top want this narrative so it makes sense that only subtack and rumble have the right information".
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
This article is about a Moderna cancer gene segment which is in the spike portion of the virus- ultimate effects TBD.

Moderna Patented Cancer Gene Is In Sars-Cov-2 Spike Protein

Link:https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/mo...-is-in?r=pq8cd

I don't know what can be done about the above if true, other than practice good health habits known to prevent cancer. Getting the injections doesn't keep your from being infected with the virus and there is strong evidence that a third injection increases the rate of infection.
Do you actually understand the inferences the guy is making in the substack and whether or not they are fair to make?

The guy himself says he doesn't.
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I can't say that I have found anything much about excess mortality due to delayed onset damage from covid.
Look at all the data on Long Covid (no bs "narrative concocted by the cabal" denial of these papers as lies) that is piling up. Look at all the studies about higher cardiovascular risk for up to 2 years after a Covid infection.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Why would you expect the same pattern? In a singleton simplified example Jane missing her annual breast examination puts her at a much worse progression and total different course and clinical outcome compared to what most Janes experience in a normal time.


Have you at least tried to see any counter arguments for your claims? Just about any?






You will never sit through anyone else explaining things because it doesn't fit your bias and it will be all brushed up to "the people on top want this narrative so it makes sense that only subtack and rumble have the right information".



Do you actually understand the inferences the guy is making in the substack and whether or not they are fair to make?

The guy himself says he doesn't.



Look at all the data on Long Covid (no bs "narrative concocted by the cabal" denial of these papers as lies) that is piling up. Look at all the studies about higher cardiovascular risk for up to 2 years after a Covid infection.
You really think that unemployed schizo retard is capable of comprehending anything but sensationalized infographics from obscure twitter pages?

People like her are too far gone, and will only consume info that reinforces their beliefs

Her source that she claims to be a study is literally called “Igor’s Newsletter”
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Look at all the data on Long Covid (no bs "narrative concocted by the cabal" denial of these papers as lies) that is piling up. Look at all the studies about higher cardiovascular risk for up to 2 years after a Covid infection.
If there is a higher cardiovascular risk in someone who had Covid AND got the injection do they blame the risk on Covid or the injection?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.
WRONG! Where did you get this info?
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