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Here's why both MAGA homos and lefty commies are wrong about the choking
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Here's why both MAGA homos and lefty commies are wrong about the choking
The simple fact is, both sides are jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts. The reality is, no one here knows anything about what happened prior to the cracker choking out the ditsoon. And the MAGA queers are outraged that the man has been charged. Understand this, if you can with your smooth brains, they charge a crime based on the facts at hand.
Now, what is a criminal trial? It is a search for the truth. People will come in and testify. A jury of unbiased people will hear all the evidence and make a decision as to whether or not the guy committed a crime. This is our system. And it typically works. But you all want to avoid the normal process for your own personal reasons. Let the process happen. The truth will come out.
If the other passengers testify that that mulignon told people he was going to harm them, took actions that they, and the marine, believed would lead to injury or worse, then certainly the guy was justified in going hands on. None of us know, though. We haven't this information.
The other component is whether or not the marine needed to maintain the hold as long as he did. Even in self defense, when the other person no longer presents a threat, you are obligated to back off. If someone has a gun and you shoot him, we'll assume that part is justified, and he tosses that gun and puts his hands up, you cannot keep shooting him. The threat has been neutralized. So, that needs to be figured out at as well, and that happens during a trial.
Stop being so quick to judgement.
And, another thing, Trump lost.
Now, what is a criminal trial? It is a search for the truth. People will come in and testify. A jury of unbiased people will hear all the evidence and make a decision as to whether or not the guy committed a crime. This is our system. And it typically works. But you all want to avoid the normal process for your own personal reasons. Let the process happen. The truth will come out.
If the other passengers testify that that mulignon told people he was going to harm them, took actions that they, and the marine, believed would lead to injury or worse, then certainly the guy was justified in going hands on. None of us know, though. We haven't this information.
The other component is whether or not the marine needed to maintain the hold as long as he did. Even in self defense, when the other person no longer presents a threat, you are obligated to back off. If someone has a gun and you shoot him, we'll assume that part is justified, and he tosses that gun and puts his hands up, you cannot keep shooting him. The threat has been neutralized. So, that needs to be figured out at as well, and that happens during a trial.
Stop being so quick to judgement.
And, another thing, Trump lost.
05-12-2023, 08:35 AM
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Criminal trials in this country are not about finding truth but suppressing it until a guilty verdict can be reached.
Courts are tools of the globalist elite to control the working class.
Trump is also the legitimate president of the USA.
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Courts are tools of the globalist elite to control the working class.
Trump is also the legitimate president of the USA.
And you are a *******.
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Didn't read. You made another thread simply you got ethered in the other one. Just lol you waste of sperm. Choke yourself.
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
Waiting to measure your response is pretty much always the right thing to do.The simple fact is, both sides are jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts. The reality is, no one here knows anything about what happened prior to the cracker choking out the ditsoon.
What concerns me, we see politicians jumping on this like AOC, to rile people up and paint a narrative. One I suspect is not based in reality. Unfortunately, you do this, people pick a side.
Right now, my guess, the black kid had a history, I read somewhere on that day he seemed to be having trouble, I do not think the marine was trying to kill him based on him putting him in the recovery position after he finally went out. What I lack is any context on what happened prior to the marine putting the kid in the chokehold, if there was anything going on that would justify that level of force - force which might not have been intended to be lethal but ultimately was.
So, the kid spitting words wouldn't be enough for me. He'd have needed to be violent or a threat in some way to warrant using the level of force that was applied.
However, if the kid was a threat, at that point it's on him. You make yourself a threat, even a milder one justifying a less lethal chokehold and not necessarily demanding lethal force, but you put yourself in a position that harm might come to you in defense against you.
I'm not 'outraged' or angry charges were filed, I'm concerned. Concerned it was politically motivated, that maybe someone put a call in and the DNC are looking for 2024's #BLM rallying moment and not concerned in the least about this marine or justice. Hopefully this is not the case, hopefully if/when it goes to trial the truth is out, hopefully the media covers it responsibly and hopefully there is justice.
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05-12-2023, 09:03 AM
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OP, the crux of the issue is that a white man choked out a black man and killed him and that's too George Flloyd for like,everypolitical faction.
Being white and choking out a black just isn't a good idea in today's society.
Now, commenting 100% seriously, the marine has erred and definitely put his foot in it, simply legally speaking. This is kind of where masturbatory MMA fantasies can land you in real trouble. Have you ever applied a RNC before? Or been put into one? It's not all that hard to determine when you've succeeded in working the choke because there is a struggle at first and then there's a point where all the resistance just drops like a sack of potatoes.
After that point, if you've still got the choke locked in, you're asking for trouble. Granted, there is still a decent while before you'll literally kill the person but the self-defence threshold has passed. You've become the aggressor.
Here is an example of the chokehold being used effectively and responsibly in a similar situation (but choke is released when attacker drops):
So no real excuse to hold a choke until the subject is dead, since there's a very noticeable point where you know you've neutralized a threat. If you can't ascertain this, you've got no business going round slapping chokes on people.
Being white and choking out a black just isn't a good idea in today's society.
Now, commenting 100% seriously, the marine has erred and definitely put his foot in it, simply legally speaking. This is kind of where masturbatory MMA fantasies can land you in real trouble. Have you ever applied a RNC before? Or been put into one? It's not all that hard to determine when you've succeeded in working the choke because there is a struggle at first and then there's a point where all the resistance just drops like a sack of potatoes.
After that point, if you've still got the choke locked in, you're asking for trouble. Granted, there is still a decent while before you'll literally kill the person but the self-defence threshold has passed. You've become the aggressor.
Here is an example of the chokehold being used effectively and responsibly in a similar situation (but choke is released when attacker drops):
So no real excuse to hold a choke until the subject is dead, since there's a very noticeable point where you know you've neutralized a threat. If you can't ascertain this, you've got no business going round slapping chokes on people.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
05-12-2023, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
True or not, that would not be relevant.He was just about to make a change, too, for once in his life.
05-12-2023, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
Trump lost, that means he is no longer president.Criminal trials in this country are not about finding truth but suppressing it until a guilty verdict can be reached.
Courts are tools of the globalist elite to control the working class.
Trump is also the legitimate president of the USA.
And you are a *******.
Courts are tools of the globalist elite to control the working class.
Trump is also the legitimate president of the USA.
And you are a *******.
since trumpy poo is going to be convicted and sentenced soon in court, does that mean he's working class? Sh*t, that fat fuk has never worked a day in his life.
05-12-2023, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By LibStomper⏩
I'll get right on that. Should I choke myself the way the marine choked the black guy or the way I choke your mom when I'm fuking her?Didn't read. You made another thread simply you got ethered in the other one. Just lol you waste of sperm. Choke yourself.
05-12-2023, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By LibStomper⏩
This.. It's cute that the soyboy thinks anyone reads his threads lmao.Didn't read. You made another thread simply you got ethered in the other one. Just lol you waste of sperm. Choke yourself.
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05-12-2023, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By slat11⏩
thug isn't dead. he was charged with manslaughter today. Probably wore his MAGA hat to court too.Another dead thug that will not be punching old people or trying to push them on to the subway tracks. Rest in piss to these violent scum.
05-12-2023, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
yet here you are. only a maga queer would prove that no one reads my threads by actually reading my thread.This.. It's cute that the soyboy thinks anyone reads his threads lmao.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I think it seems clear he was not qualified to do that hold, which kind of makes things to me that the black guy would have needed to have been even more of a threat/danger to justify it's use.So no real excuse to hold a choke until the subject is dead, since there's a very noticeable point where you know you've neutralized a threat. If you can't ascertain this, you've got no business going round slapping chokes on people.
Running to condemn the marine is wrong, do not agree with that, it feels more and more this was a bad mistake and one that ultimately ended up being deadly. I will also say, it's kind of gross reading the other side of things, with people gleeful about the homeless guy's death.
We're still finding out what this was but I think it's a tragedy no matter what ends up being found out in the end.
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05-12-2023, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
Still didn't read lolyet here you are. only a maga queer would prove that no one reads my threads by actually reading my thread.
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
I think leftists like you are truly upset to the core because you were exposed as unpatriotic so now you attack people as some weird auto-defense mechanism who are pro-USAyet here you are. only a maga queer would prove that no one reads my threads by actually reading my thread.
That or you were weak growing up and look at the MAGA/conservative crowd as a way to get back at life.
It's really all just so tiring, just be pro-USA.
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Would it feel as good as when my cock is shoved deep inside your mother's pussy and she milks an orgasm out of me cuz she made sure to do her kegels after her retard child (you) was born?It was gonna feel real good, too, coulda made a difference.
05-12-2023, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
Oh for sure, especially in NYC.Now, what is a criminal trial?It is a search for the truth.People will come in and testify.A jury of unbiased peoplewill hear all the evidence and make a decision as to whether or not the guy committed a crime. This is our system. And it typically works. But you all want to avoid the normal process for your own personal reasons. Let the process happen.The truth will come out.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
When was I ever exposed as unpatriotic? I served my country, cocksucker. Both in the army and the government. Shame on me for wanting to live in a civil society.I think leftists like you are truly upset to the core because you were exposed as unpatriotic so now you attack people as some weird auto-defense mechanism who are pro-USA
That or you were weak growing up and look at the MAGA/conservative crowd as a way to get back at life.
It's really all just so tiring, just be pro-USA.
That or you were weak growing up and look at the MAGA/conservative crowd as a way to get back at life.
It's really all just so tiring, just be pro-USA.
Call me leftist again, mother f*cker. I'll f*ck you up real good. If you actually had an comprehension skills, you'd see that I'm a centrist, ass hole. I believe in low taxes, freedom, trannies are mentally ill freaks. God you people are obtuse.
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
I would just turn up the collar on my favorite winter coat.Would it feel as good as when my cock is shoved deep inside your mother's pussy and she milks an orgasm out of me cuz she made sure to do her kegels after her retard child (you) was born?
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Ok, tough guy. Tell me, where in the country would this guy get a fair trial and we will see if we can have the trial relocated there. Let me guess, in Mississippi? Alabama? Right? cocksucker.Oh for sure, especially in NYC.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
slow day at the office.Thank goodness you started 2 threads about the same thing this morning OP.
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
2024 Trump vs Biden, who do you vote for?When was I ever exposed as unpatriotic? I served my country, cocksucker. Both in the army and the government. Shame on me for wanting to live in a civil society.
Call me leftist again, mother f*cker. I'll f*ck you up real good. If you actually had an comprehension skills, you'd see that I'm a centrist, ass hole. I believe in low taxes, freedom, trannies are mentally ill freaks. God you people are obtuse.
Call me leftist again, mother f*cker. I'll f*ck you up real good. If you actually had an comprehension skills, you'd see that I'm a centrist, ass hole. I believe in low taxes, freedom, trannies are mentally ill freaks. God you people are obtuse.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Choice between those two fools is no choice at all. I select the lesser of the two evils.2024 Trump vs Biden, who do you vote for?
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