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post 1683266083 05-23-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Were you? Were you born in the US? You definitely weren't born in Wakanda, because you're way too much of a pussy to have been born anywhere other than in easy ass America. And it shows.



Nah, you're just a loser. I've had women call me ugly, and those same women have willingly fuked me that same night.
Yes I was born in the US, 1st generation.

I understand that happened FOR YOU but your experience doesnt apply to everyone else you self centered idiot. Your experience is not the way it happens for everyone else. get that through your fat head.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Bro you could be traveling and stunting with your passport. Never thought of you as an incel srs.
I've been to africa lol, it does not work that way at all trust me.

Yes, I could probably get taken advantage of by some 3rd worlder wanting a green card but that obviously isnt what I'm going for.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Yes I was born in the US, 1st generation.

I understand that happened FOR YOU but your experience doesnt apply to everyone else you self centered idiot. Your experience is not the way it happens for everyone else. get that through your fat head.
It literally does. Incels are in the minority. You're weak as fuk.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
It literally does. Incels are in the minority. You're weak as fuk.
Incels are still a minority as in literally less than 50% but the numbers show easily something around 50% of men struggling out there with little to no results. like 25 to 30% are actually incels, another 20-25% not outright incel but struggling. the dating market is fuked right now, even woke feminist CNN is talking about it now.
post 1683267013 05-23-2023, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By TheDude8734⏩
Reps on recharge, your explanation is very reasonable and sound IMO
wow actually listened to that myself.

BBMG you have a good voice.

maybe make a lonely/incel discussion podcast. dead srs.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Bro you could be traveling and stunting with your passport. Never thought of you as an incel srs.







Get you an exotical PAAG or an African Queen



Imagine going to Ghana tho
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So tired of hearing these cucks talk about how people just need to stop thinking about sex and women and find value elsewhere in life.

Hows about YOU stop being a spineless cuck and admitting that our society is totally screwed when men aren't creating families anymore and an extremely large part of the population are doomed to live in solitary for their whole lives. It aint just about sex, it's about the the general health of a society who's people have no fulfillment and cannot attain the joys of building a family, buying a home, and contributing to society. Sure there have always been individuals who end up being alone, but this generation is way more widespread.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
So tired of hearing these cucks talk about how people just need to stop thinking about sex and women and find value elsewhere in life.

Hows about YOU stop being a spineless cuck and admitting that our society is totally screwed when men aren't creating families anymore and an extremely large part of the population are doomed to live in solitary for their whole lives. It aint just about sex, it's about the the general health of a society who's people have no fulfillment and cannot attain the joys of building a family, buying a home, and contributing to society. Sure there have always been individuals who end up being alone, but this generation is way more widespread.
I mean just charm women and have sex w/them bro it's not complicated
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Incels are still a minority as in literally less than 50% but the numbers show easily something around 50% of men struggling out there with little to no results. like 25 to 30% are actually incels, another 20-25% not outright incel but struggling. the dating market is fuked right now, even woke feminist CNN is talking about it now.
I don't know any incels IRL. I bet most guys don't. Do you know any incels other than yourself?
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I don't know any incels IRL. I bet most guys don't. Do you know any incels other than yourself?
I mean I dont walk around asking every man I see when they last had sex, but I would say between friends and acquaintances its 50-50 whether they are always single, never seen them with a girl or talking about a date etc. so i'd say incel or incel adjacent, its flip a coin in my life.
post 1683268233 05-23-2023, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
legitimately touched by this muzz, thank you.


but you know there's a butt

Thanks for the call-out ****git. "But people like Roller and Rebel, these are not good people, they're pieces of chit."

I have dozens of posts where I've genuinely tried to help you, and I've done it by referencing my own experience, since I was FA in my early twenties. The difference is I was never an incel, which is clearly an ideology based on the entitled worldview that men are owed something by women and society on the grounds that sex is a human right on the same level as food and water.

I know that others like Pondus, who have extensive dating experience and was also FA at one point, have also tried to help you.

The fact is, you're just more interested in your victim mindset. If you wanted a family as bad as you claim, then you should have said fuk it to the house and wifed up the last chick you dated who was clearly into you, but you didn't. You refuse any sacrifices.

And I don't care what you look like, any man who claims to want a relationship but gives up at thirty-fuking-one has a loser mindset.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I meant that the women you bring to the US will fuk you over because they're in it mainly/only for the benefits of a green card. The only way to ensure that doesnt happen is if you actually stay in the 3rd world place you go, which obviously is an issue on its own.

I am Nigerian American. I'm 1st gen american.
Did I just read you have an ivy league degree and own a home? And you are American as they come. Bro...

You have to be smart about it dude. Sure there's gonna be sketchy bitches that will try to take you for a ride, but I got news for you: Even if you are white and a foot taller these women exist, and will try to play you (trust me I know from experience)...

But if you aren't an autist then you can weed these women out. Make sure you smash without a condom far in advance of doing any visa paperwork. In fact you can probably play them in reverse and smash with their hopes of *them getting a greencard. Then ghost them. That's unethical and I wouldn't do it, but im just saying you need to shift your mentality because despite your height you have a lot of things women actually do want.

Women are hypergamous so will look for men equal to and above their socioeconomic status.

Which means your starting pool of potential mates (single, aged 17-39) is probably around a half billion globally.

And maybe half of them wouldn't touch a black man ever, so now you're at 250 million potential mates to date.

And let's say only 20% of them are 5'2" or shorter. That's 50 million women.

And let's say that only 2% of them are actually attracted to your face, personality etc... that's 1m

And let's say you aren't attracted to 50% of them.

You have a half million women to choose from you dirty dog you.

Find them.

(And stop reading incel bull$hit...you're polluting your brain)
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5'3" is the average height of a Filipino male OP. Google it

Just go there and you will be a man average
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Thanks for the call-out ****git. "But people like Roller and Rebel, these are not good people, they're pieces of chit."

I have dozens of posts where I've genuinely tried to help you, and I've done it by referencing my own experience, since I was FA in my early twenties. The difference is I was never an incel, which is clearly an ideology based on the entitled worldview that men are owed something by women and society on the grounds that sex is a human right on the same level as food and water.

I know that others like Pondus, who have extensive dating experience and was also FA at one point, have also tried to help you.

The fact is, you're just more interested in your victim mindset. If you wanted a family as bad as you claim, then you should have said fuk it to the house and wifed up the last chick you dated you was clearly into you, but you didn't. You refuse any sacrifices.

And I don't care what you look like, any man who claims to want a relationship but gives up at thirty-fuking-one has a loser mindset.
sorry if but if you actually have meant well all this time you are a fukin terrible communicator cause you dont come across that way at all.

You cannot help this. thats square one. its over. If you dont understand this by now jfc.

lol at 'just wife up the last girl bro' as if she doesnt have say in it. She wasnt interested like that, that was a pandemic thing she was bored she told me that. lol at missing my chance at homeownership to squeeze out 2 more months of a fling.
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed⏩
5'3" is the average height of a Filipino male OP. Google it

Just go there and you will be a man average
they dont like black people
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
So tired of hearing these cucks talk about how people just need to stop thinking about sex and women and find value elsewhere in life.

Hows about YOU stop being a spineless cuck and admitting that our society is totally screwed when men aren't creating families anymore and an extremely large part of the population are doomed to live in solitary for their whole lives. It aint just about sex, it's about the the general health of a society who's people have no fulfillment and cannot attain the joys of building a family, buying a home, and contributing to society. Sure there have always been individuals who end up being alone, but this generation is way more widespread.
cultural marxists have successfully dismantled the nuclear family and its all downhill from here. RIP civilization (srs)
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Originally Posted By Alphametric⏩
Did I just read you have an ivy league degree and own a home? And you are American as they come. Bro...

You have to be smart about it dude. Sure there's gonna be sketchy bitches that will try to take you for a ride, but I got news for you: Even if you are white and a foot taller these women exist, and will try to play you (trust me I know from experience)...

But if you aren't an autist then you can weed these women out. Make sure you smash without a condom far in advance of doing any visa paperwork. In fact you can probably play them in reverse and smash with their hopes of *them getting a greencard. Then ghost them. That's unethical and I wouldn't do it, but im just saying you need to shift your mentality because despite your height you have a lot of things women actually do want.

Women are hypergamous so will look for men equal to and above their socioeconomic status.

Which means your starting pool of potential mates (single, aged 17-39) is probably around a half billion globally.

And maybe half of them wouldn't touch a black man ever, so now you're at 250 million potential mates to date.

And let's say only 20% of them are 5'2" or shorter. That's 50 million women.

And let's say that only 2% of them are actually attracted to your face, personality etc... that's 1m

And let's say you aren't attracted to 50% of them.

You have a half million women to choose from you dirty dog you.

Find them.

(And stop reading incel bull$hit...you're polluting your brain)
I like your breakdown, thats how I think of it except when you do it accurately the numbers are closer to zero.

like 99% of women reject a 5'3 black unattractive man out of the gate.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I like your breakdown, thats how I think of it except when you do it accurately the numbers are closer to zero.

like 99% of women reject a 5'3 black unattractive man out of the gate.
Funny how being black has never hindered any of my brothers, my father, his brothers, or myself. But for you it's a death sentence.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I like your breakdown, thats how I think of it except when you do it accurately the numbers are closer to zero.

like 99% of women reject a 5'3 black unattractive man out of the gate.
No blackpill, but I think that number for an unadulterated unattractive 5'3" black man, that's probably an accurate number (99%). Supposed to be something like 2/3 of chicks wouldn't date me at 5'8" already.

I do think the numbers are probably less multiplicative than we think - say 40% of Americans would date black guys, and 5% would date a 5'3" man, I don't think you can accurately get an accurate result from multiplying those numbers; that 5% who are open to dating 5'3" men is probably a fairly open-minded or less physically-focused group. Of that 5%, probably much more than 40% would be open to dating black men. Some silver lining.

That said, I do think it's ignorant if not apathetic of Rebel to act like his pulling himself out of FAness is the same. Rebel, you're a 5'10"+ white guy, no? BBMG will be rejected *magnitudes* more than you in his escape from FAdom. For every time you were rejected, he'll be rejected 10 times or more. I don't think this is an exaggeration. I think this also carries over into improving your approach harder as well (so it's harder from the start, and harder to get better) - how do you know whether she just wasn't interested or whether you said something autistic?

There was talk earlier in the thread of "he needs to do something different," but if he can never measure whether "different" is a good "different," he'll be much worse off. Going back to the "shooting a target" analogy, yeah, if you miss, you need to do something different, but wtf do you do if you don't even hit the paper? Hard to know which direction to go. Suppose finding a method of measurement (probably different ways to go about it but e.g. an honest, non-autistic friend) probably isn't a bad idea for a priority.
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Despite this, I do think socialmaxxing/acquiring the gift of gab/whatever you want to call it is probably the answer. Who hasn't seen ugly dudes that can still walk into anywhere and light up the place? I think becoming that sociable is harder than a lot of people give it credit - probably takes a lot of genetics/particular (early?) life experiences - but at the end of the day, it's infinitely easier for us to become good actors and say the right words at the right time than it is to grow a foot taller.

I of course do think there is some minimum looksmaxxing OP needs - OP, have you ever been sub 15% BF while benching 185 for reps? Feel like that's nothing crazy, but you're at least an in shape guy at that point. Feel like you've ducked lifting questions before.

I do think the 99% number can be approved upon - you can both improve you looks/social abilities and find women/places with women who will be more receptive to you. I was careful in my choice of "unadulterated;" yeah, maybe you're really unlucky in the looks department, but how many people have an ivy league degree, let alone how many black dudes have an ivy league degree? I bet the cross-section of chicks who like/don't mind shorter black guys and chicks who like smart guys is pretty high. I think the boiling yourself down to a few attributes is harder on yourself than you need to be and harder than the world is, though I certainly guilty of this myself.

P.S. Adding to Muzz's earlier point, I just spent like an hour writing this. You do have people rooting for you.
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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
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Despite this, I do think socialmaxxing/acquiring the gift of gab/whatever you want to call it is probably the answer. Who hasn't seen ugly dudes that can still walk into anywhere and light up the place? I think becoming that sociable is harder than a lot of people give it credit - probably takes a lot of genetics/particular (early?) life experiences - but at the end of the day, it's infinitely easier for us to become good actors and say the right words at the right time than it is to grow a foot taller.

I of course do think there is some minimum looksmaxxing OP needs - OP, have you ever been sub 15% BF while benching 185 for reps? Feel like that's nothing crazy, but you're at least an in shape guy at that point. Feel like you've ducked lifting questions before.

I do think the 99% number can be approved upon - you can both improve you looks/social abilities and find women/places with women who will be more receptive to you. I was careful in my choice of "unadulterated;" yeah, maybe you're really unlucky in the looks department, but how many people have an ivy league degree, let alone how many black dudes have an ivy league degree? I bet the cross-section of chicks who like/don't mind shorter black guys and chicks who like smart guys is pretty high. I think the boiling yourself down to a few attributes is harder on yourself than you need to be and harder than the world is, though I certainly guilty of this myself.

P.S. Adding to Muzz's earlier point, I just spent like an hour writing this. You do have people rooting for you.
You just spent an hour telling him things we've told him hundreds of times. You aren't a genius. I can tell.
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I'd like to jump on the You do have people rooting for you Bbmg. I feel for you. You could give it your best and still not make it. With how difficult the road ahead would be, it's understandable if you give up.

But with the right mindset there is still a fun life out there for you. I seriously think you should chase some crazy dream or goal or adventure to make it. Easier said than done. But the local bar and dating scene and cushy job won't do you any favors with women. And it's sad to have to do that just for a decent woman. But don't do it for women. Do it for you.

Best wishes
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
You just spent an hour telling him things we've told him hundreds of times. You aren't a genius. I can tell.
No need to be rustled. I've had decent conversations with bbmg before.
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Originally Posted By wigwogzigzog⏩
I'd like to jump on the You do have people rooting for you Bbmg. I feel for you. You could give it your best and still not make it. With how difficult the road ahead would be, it's understandable if you give up.

But with the right mindset there is still a fun life out there for you. I seriously think you should chase some crazy dream or goal or adventure to make it. Easier said than done. But the local bar and dating scene and cushy job won't do you any favors with women. And it's sad to have to do that just for a decent woman. But don't do it for women. Do it for you.

Best wishes
Wig
I find it difficult to respect people that don't respect themselves. And BBMG, along with the rest of the incels are people who don't respect themselves. Can't even really call them men. And if we're gonna be honest, I don't believe he has an ivy league degree either.
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Lol this thread was a ride, you guys are more than just the trolls you initially come across. A lot of depth here, a lot different but valid perspectives. The vocals were awesome, you guys talk really well and put across well thought out intelligent ideas and that bass ****ing slapped.

OP, I'm rooting for you too man. You are too negative, you've already decided there's no hope and it's all pointless, you are 0% open to having your mind changed. There is no hope while you are like this, its self fulfilling . I don't agree that there is no hope for you. Clearly I don't know you but I can see you have value. You are too insecure about being a cuck though and it gives solid dickhead vibes. Society is phucked though.

Way I see it, you have 2 options to change from where you are at (I'll ignore the rope because I'm rooting for you); Change the negative mindset and give the ideas presented a go or just go full degenmaxx, hedonistic, dopamine is dopamine we all dies anyway
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I find it difficult to respect people that don't respect themselves. And BBMG, along with the rest of the incels are people who don't respect themselves. Can't even really call them men. And if we're gonna be honest, I don't believe he has an ivy league degree either.
that's dumb. you are a really small minded person from what i gathered in this thread. srs

like you are unable to put yourself in other persons shoes type of person, and thinks everyone handles things the same. small minded
post 1683278233 05-23-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I find it difficult to respect people that don't respect themselves. And BBMG, along with the rest of the incels are people who don't respect themselves. Can't even really call them men. And if we're gonna be honest, I don't believe he has an ivy league degree either.
He needs a transformation. A rebirth. A resurrection. Is it possible for an incel so deep in the hole? Maybe not. But I'd like to think he could pull it off.
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post 1683278473 05-23-2023, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
We choose to lay down and rot: 'loser lol improve youself bro what fookin loser that gave up'

We improve ourselves bro:' LOL incel, tall white men only go fuk yourself manlet!'
back to rotting: 'lol losers'

Wtf does society expect incels to do? Go to work, be an obedient little wage slave while also being entirely unsatisfied with life?

Society better cum up with answer soon for what incels are supposed to be doing. otherwise its going to get bad. And no, not just japan where men opted out. because the key word of japan is those men OPT out. They see that the work and dating market isnt worth it and choose to be alone.

in the USA, men are working and doing things they're told will work and it doesnt. Much worse scenario that breeds anger and depression
I saw this documentary, its called Joker
We living in a clown world.
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