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post 1684635673 06-14-2023, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Recognizing the problem is the first step in resolving it.

I suggest taking some English classes, and perhaps some history classes at your local community college, it would be highly beneficial just based on what I am observing in this thread.

Perhaps we can revisit this discussion at a later date, when you have improved your English skills to the point where you don't have to complain about communication issues, and your knowledge of history to the point where you actually know what you are talking about.

Have a good night!
You too. And it's ok if you don't know or are too afraid to list the true number Stalin killed because it will make you look bad. You already look pretty bad and like a nazi sympathizer, so I can understand your fleeing the thread.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Do you condone Eastern Europe, unwillingly being under the boot of the Soviets?
Depends. I believe in self determination of native peoples. But you also need the structures to exist to make that possible. During the age of empires and conquest culminating in the world wars, it wasn't realistic.

Do you ever make posts that aren't questions? Why are you so hostile to communism?
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Just another low IQ statement that says exactly nothing.
How many did Stalin kill?

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Originally Posted By Anachron
If you take that history class at your local community college as I recommended, you won't need to ask that question on a random message board.



Maybe you need to ask yourself that.
Ahh, another English issue.

How many do you think Stalin killed?
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
I used to feel similarly, but many racists informed me this was, in fact, not my country. I also saw many videos from the US government and statements from US officials that confirmed that they, in fact, do not represent me or my beliefs. So I am basically a born American, but will never be a "real" American. And frankly, considering what being a "real" American means and what "real" Americans have done and continue to do to this planet, I say "Good".

I could post a long list of US and Angloid injustices, but you being likely Muslim are probably well aware of them.

There is the America that hosts us -- that was proud to take those who fled oppression and give them freedom and opportunity and treat them with dignity. But that America is mostly a lie. And it is rapidly dying, as can be readily seen in the fascist rhetoric from mainstream political leaders. There is also the matter of brain drain and ulterior motives. It's cynical and sad to say the only reason you are American is that Americans hated Soviets. Meanwhile in Yemen, they condoned the same thing that happened to you, for example. At the end of the day, this is just a country. What matters is how we better society and humanity.
I'm a Nhilist...but to this day, I respect that this is a Christian country, based on Christian principles, upheld by Christian law. I also don't believe you can be Muslim AND an American...not a popular belief to most folks but it's what I honestly believe in. Regardless of what people think about this country, it will remain as something I consider the most important aspect of my life.
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post 1684636393 06-14-2023, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi
I'm a Nhilist...but to this day, I respect that this is a Christian country, based on Christian principles, upheld by Christian law. I also don't believe you can be Muslim AND an American...not a popular belief to most folks but it's what I honestly believe in. Regardless of what people think about this country, it will remain as something I consider the most important aspect of my life.
Is letting the poor die and murdering innocents a Christian tenet? Because those seem to be core American values.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting how you claim there is miscommunication due to me, but it is you who had to revise the question to be more specific, and for it to be a completely different question than the one originally posed.

I stand by my recommendation to take a couple of English classes at your local community college.
That's ok.

How many do you think Stalin killed?
post 1684636683 06-14-2023, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Until you provide proof that you have taken the steps to improve both your English skills, and your rudimentary knowledge of history, I do not think there is any value in having an intellectual discussion with you.

As of right now, it makes as much sense as having said discussion with a toddler. I mean, in the quoted post, what does the "that's ok" refer to?

So please, do take my advice, and at least explore what classes are available at your local community college, taking at least some English classes would do a lot of good, since you won't have to claim miscommunication every time your lack of rudimentary knowledge of Soviet history is highlighted.
That's fine. You are free to flee.

How many do you think Stalin killed?
post 1684636783 06-14-2023, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting to see how you don't even seem to be able to read my posts, and have resorted to asking the same question over and over again.
How many do you think Stalin killed?
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
Is letting the poor die and murdering innocents a Christian tenet? Because those seem to be core American values.
Lol...no offense but that question isn't even worth contemplating....you obviously have no knowledge of the core Christian values..I can assure you they don't include flying planes into buildings and murdering innocent people in the name of their God...and the core values of this country pertain to allowing anyone to achieve their goals so long as their willing to put in the work..which is more than I can say about any communist or Muslim countries.
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post 1684636853 06-14-2023, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi
Lol...no offense but that question isn't even worth contemplating....you obviously have no knowledge of the core Christian values..I can assure you they don't include flying planes into buildings and murdering innocent people in the name of their God...and the core values of this country pertain to allowing anyone to achieve their goals so long as their willing to put in the work..which is more than I can say about any communist or Muslim countries.
I know they are the opposite of Christian virtues. My point is a critical examination of America's foreign and domestic policies will illustrate that it is not a christian nation by any stretch.

Also, do you think hard work is sufficient to achieve financial security in the US? There are a lot of ahrd working people with medical debt they will never escape. There are some who go without health insurance. There are many hard workers who cannot afford their medications.
post 1684636893 06-14-2023, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting to see how you don't even seem to be able to read my posts, and have resorted to asking the same question over and over again.
That's ok.

How many do you think Stalin killed?
post 1684637143 06-14-2023, 07:47 PM
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It is amazing. Wincel is an expert on economics,political philosophy,history and mathematics. A true TheAlderian clone graces the misc
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Originally Posted By 129iq
It is amazing. Wincel is an expert on economics,political philosophy,history and mathematics. A true TheAlderian clone graces the misc
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post 1684637293 06-14-2023, 07:50 PM
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This thread is about communist parties in the US, not this "Wincel" user.
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
I know they are the opposite of Christian virtues. My point is a critical examination of America's foreign and domestic policies will illustrate that it is not a christian nation by any stretch.

Also, do you think hard work is sufficient to achieve financial security in the US? There are a lot of ahrd working people with medical debt they will never escape. There are some who go without health insurance. There are many hard workers who cannot afford their medications.
You seem to be seeking a perfect society...unfortunately, that concept doesn't exist...what we have here is far from perfect but the closest to it possibly in my opinion
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post 1684637493 06-14-2023, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi
You seem to be seeking a perfect society...unfortunately, that concept doesn't exist...what we have here is far from perfect but the closest to it possibly in my opinion
Maybe, but a lot of other countries have passed the US by other metrics now. We could probably be doing better. Healthcare is a huge one.
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
Maybe, but a lot of other countries have passed the US by other metrics now. We could probably be doing better. Healthcare is a huge one.
Why do you trust Cuban stats on their education and healthcare "successes"?
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Originally Posted By 129iq
Why do you trust Cuban stats on their education and healthcare "successes"?
You aware of their international healthcare program? They helped people all over the world, and that was while they were under crippling economic blockades and sanctions. Cuba provides more medical doctors to developing nations than all the formerly G8 combined.

Your foot, sir?

It's honestly shameful we don't do better.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting.

So this thread is about communist parties in the US, not how many people this user "Anachron" thinks Stalin killed?
That's ok.

How many do you think Stalin killed?
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
My country sucks ass and is full of racists and people who suck at math. Everyone is borderline insane, addicted to drugs, slooting around and generally out of control. We're run by corrupt crazy people who are so self absorbed by their drama that it's a wonder anything gets done, and by anything, I mean starting wars and bombing the chit out of people...

I'm just over it. I don't really want to move anywhere, and I still like the US constitution. But I want to join a communist party. Where do they hang out? Reddit is full of fascist neoliberals and neocons. This place is full of fascists too. Where do all the normal sane left wing people hang out? Or are they all in China and Russia?
wincel, don't pretend you aren't already a card carrying member of the ccp. Your recruitment methods are pretty weak...
Hey Timmy, show us on the boy doll where the tampon goes...
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Originally Posted By Fishman15
wincel, don't pretend you aren't already a card carrying member of the ccp. Your recruitment methods are pretty weak...
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
You aware of their international healthcare program? They helped people all over the world, and that was while they were under crippling economic blockades and sanctions. Cuba provides more medical doctors to developing nations than all the formerly G8 combined.

Your foot, sir?

It's honestly shameful we don't do better.
"Provides" You mean they are slaves and drive cabs in the offseason.
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Originally Posted By 129iq
"Provides" You mean they are slaves and drive cabs in the offseason.
Are the US Navy slaves?
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Not going to read this whole thread by a current month joined red no avi troll. Ah yes, everyone dong what they want and living their lives as they wish is the problem. If only we had a strong authoritarian leadership that would micro-manage our lives and put the boot in anyone's ass if they dare step out of line! It's like arguing that blacks had it better as slaves on the plantations.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
Not going to read this whole thread by a current month joined red no avi troll. Ah yes, everyone dong what they want and living their lives as they wish is the problem. If only we had a strong authoritarian leadership that would micro-manage our lives and put the boot in anyone's ass if they dare step out of line! It's like arguing that blacks had it better as slaves on the plantations.
Most of the thread is Anachron spam.

But here is why your argument mathematically fails.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libe...9;t%20pick%20y.

Bluntly, when your freedom hurts others, you shouldn't have it.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus
I'm ok with being a worker if it would mean everyone had a decent life. Same could be said for a capitalist too btw.
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
That's ok.

How many do you think Stalin killed?
Isn't a fairly well received fact that state sponsored communism is most murderous regime in human history?


And isn't it basically built into the regime that there will be a guaranteed loss of human life? Marx himself did argue for bloody and violent revolution, no? Wasn't this termed "revolutionary terror", and it's kind of been a call to arms for murderous socialists since Stalin?


It sees no harm in punishment of the individual for the sake of the collective, so murder or enslavement of any perceived enemy of the collective is permissible. And history shows when a collective comes together they can easily commit atrocities against individuals in the interest of the collective good, and the new ruling proletariat will forgive their crimes.


Marxism is kind of fanatical by design, right? Hence why I don't really support it despite it being far-left.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ
Are the US Navy slaves?
First, self-defense of the nation is one of the jobs of government. Second,the Navy doesn't have to go to school for a billion years. A million more reasons why it is a silly comparison.
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