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post 1685307863 06-25-2023, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Also possible you've had covid a few times.
You mean the flu?
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Originally Posted By Paul
You mean the flu?
Maybe. The tests differentiate.
post 1685308213 06-25-2023, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Because today it is the covid vaccine, but tomorrow u mfers will bring polio back.
The covid jab is nothing like the vaccine for polio. I don't get the flu shot either.
post 1685308243 06-25-2023, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Also possible you've had covid a few times.
So what if he had? The jab wouldn't have prevented him from getting it.
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Originally Posted By Paul
The Polio vaccine didn't cure polio. In fact most people that got polio were the ones that took the polio vaccine.

Polio had almost been eradicated in the 1950's before the polio vaccines started back up. Then polio cases exploded.Then they renamed polio once word was getting out that most of the people catching it weed the ones that had taken the polio vaccine.
The Moth in the Iron Lungis an excellent book on this topic for anyone who isn't as aware as Paul is
post 1685308683 06-25-2023, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Since you have "natural immunity", does it make you wonder how you got it a second time?
You do realize with every cold you get, it's a different variant?
post 1685308903 06-25-2023, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You do realize with every cold you get, it's a different variant?
Point?
post 1685309003 06-25-2023, 08:52 PM
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Why would anyone ever prefer a virus to a vaccine? Just fkin lmao @ low iq pleb antivaxxer subhumans.

Would you rather go into combat with a green noob or some seasoned veteran? There you go.
post 1685309073 06-25-2023, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Maybe. The tests differentiate.
But the Coronavirus is a flu virus…last I checked there are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades.
post 1685309273 06-25-2023, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Point?
Point is that they were either testing that an individual had CV 7 yrs ago (up to) & now a possible anti-body or are they specifically isolating CoV-2, which was impossible to do, based on length of time it had been present as we know there are 30 sub strains of the virus, for we know the WuHan Virus was different from the strand in Italy, then again different in Iran, then morphed again in New York, & CA.


Check the dates..

Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, Chinese study finds
April 21, 2020 | 8:17pm


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....ins-study/amp/



Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, study finds
Published April 22, 2020

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/co...tudy-finds.amp


Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 variants
Apr 2020

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...0-strains.aspx


Scientists say a now-dominant strain of the coronavirus could be more contagious than original
Mar 2020

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-than-original
post 1685309283 06-25-2023, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
But the Coronavirus is a flu virus…last I checked there are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades.
But influenza viruses aren't coronaviruses
post 1685309333 06-25-2023, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Point is that they were either testing that an individual had CV 7 yrs ago (up to) & now a possible anti-body or are they specifically isolating CoV-2, which was impossible to do, based on length of time it had been present as we know there are 30 sub strains of the virus, for we know the WuHan Virus was different from the strand in Italy, then again different in Iran, then morphed again in New York, & CA.


Check the dates..

Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, Chinese study finds

April 21, 2020 | 8:17pm


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....ins-study/amp/



Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, study finds
Published April 22, 2020

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/co...tudy-finds.amp


Scientists say a now-dominant strain of the coronavirus could be more contagious than original
Mar 2020

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-than-original
None of this has anything to do with the discussion.
post 1685309523 06-25-2023, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
None of this has anything to do with the discussion.
Yes, it does. We were testing superficial swabs, fecal matter swabs, posterior throat swabs, poked fingered antibodies, so if you get an IGG antibody does that mean you are currently sick but recovering or does it mean, that you have an IGG antibody from the CV 17 yrs ago that you had. If you have an IGM antibody & are a systematic does that mean you are infected & might be spreading..
All the above data (30 strains lol) is mixed or taken out making all of it have no validity since no true denominator is established. Therefore we have no understanding of incidence prevalence, making death rate completely irrelevant.

Covid had just hit (2020) & they were telling us in March that there were 30 strains already..but the vaccine was gonna save us all.

LOOOL
post 1685309853 06-25-2023, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Yes, it does. We were testing superficial swabs, fecal matter swabs, posterior throat swabs, poked fingered antibodies, so if you get an IGG antibody does that mean you are currently sick but recovering or does it mean, that you have an IGG antibody from the CV 17 yrs ago that you had. If you have an IGM antibody & are a systematic does that mean you are infected & might be spreading..
All the above data (30 strains lol) is mixed or taken out making all of it have no validity since no true denominator is established. Therefore we have no understanding of incidence prevalence, making death rate completely irrelevant.
I don't think you understand testing.

Also, we didn't resolve the discussion regarding immunity from covid vaccination.

You claimed covid vaccinations do not induce acquired immunity, but then presented evidence of antibodies produced following covid vaccination.

Do covid vaccines induce acquired immunity or nah?
post 1685309933 06-25-2023, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I don't think you understand testing.

Also, we didn't resolve the discussion regarding immunity from covid vaccination.

You claimed covid vaccinations do not induce acquired immunity, but then presented evidence of antibodies produced following covid vaccination.

Do covid vaccines induce acquired immunity or nah?
Immunity to what?
post 1685310063 06-25-2023, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Immunity to what?
Acquired immunity refers to the development of antibodies and t-cells.
post 1685310123 06-25-2023, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Acquired immunity refers to the development of antibodies and t-cells.
Okay, so answer the question..immunity to what?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Okay, so answer the question..immunity to what?
That's a vague question in context. Are you referring to covid, rabies, or shingles?

Vaccines confer acquired immunity toward the targeted antigen.
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antivaxxer is a compliment at this point.
post 1685310393 06-25-2023, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That's a vague question in context.


Vaccines confer acquired immunity toward the targeted antigen.
You asked me..
“Do covid vaccines produce acquired immunity or nah?”

Again..immunity to what?

It’s a simple question. 3 words.
post 1685310513 06-25-2023, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
antivaxxer is a compliment at this point.
That seems to be the narrative.
post 1685310573 06-25-2023, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That seems to be the narrative.
Can you just answer the question please. It’s not a difficult question

Let me know when you figure it out
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Originally Posted By Paul
Can you just answer the question please. It’s not a difficult question

Let me know when you figure it out
Vaccines provide:

acquired immunity to the targeted infection.
post 1685310753 06-25-2023, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Not three words, but vaccines provide:

acquired immunity to the targeted infection.
My question was three words..

Let’s go through it one more time..

You asked me..
“Do covid vaccines produce acquired immunity or nah?”

Again..

Immunity to what?
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Originally Posted By Paul
My question was three words..

Let’s go through it one more time..

You asked me..
“Do covid vaccines produceacquiredimmunity or nah?”

Again..

Immunity to what?
Acquired immunity

to covid
post 1685311033 06-25-2023, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Acquired immunity

to covid
I have not seen any evidence that the covid vaccines produce immunity from Covid, when exactly are they supposed to acquire it?
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Originally Posted By Paul
I have not seen any evidence that the covid vaccines produce immunity from Covid, when exactly are they supposed to acquire it?
Antibody titers

T-cell counts

Why do you feel they are inaccurate?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Antibody titers

T-cell counts

Why do you feel they are inaccurate?
Well..I have not seen any evidence that the covid vaccines produce immunity from Covid, when exactly are they supposed to acquire it?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Well..I have not seen any evidence that the covid vaccines produce immunity from Covid, when exactly are they supposed to acquire it?
Here's some evidence of acquired immunity conferred by covid vaccines:

Humoral:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2114583

Cell-mediated:

https://www.cell.com/immunity/fullte...613(23)00125-5
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Here's some evidence of acquired immunity conferred by covid vaccines:

Humoral:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2114583

Cell-mediated:

https://www.cell.com/immunity/fullte...613(23)00125-5
So when do you think those that took the jab will acquire this immunity?
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