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post 1686079223 07-08-2023, 08:36 AM
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Help Ya Boy Stop Drinking

come in here and insult me or lift yourself up as a result of my predicament if you like

but some of you want to help me, so i need advice

my brothers don't drink and say just stop, bro but that results in the medical route

my gal says drink if you must and trust your body and you're making progress

my boyo TooAnabolic doesn't get hangovers and drinks a lot every day and he's like LFG

i have historically been in this situation 3 times

1 i just ate **** at my brother's house and had a beer every 2 hours on schedule and exited. was fuarked

going to the ER is useless although hearing a doc matter-of-factly state that i shouldn't just stop abruptly due to the danger of it was dialed

inpatient detox is so ****ed because they pump you full of benzos and then you have benzo withdrawal/night sweats for 2 weeks after plus it's legit prison where you get cell phone for 1 hour a day lol can u imagine

i don't need advice on the desire to stop part

i just need advice on the physical exit and taper right now

i've only actually been drinking hard for a week on this bender, believe it or not, but if you ramp up like i always do, you become physically trapped

help, brahs pls

i'm not working currently (although i'm still getting direct deposits, oddly lol) so i can take as long as i need to do this
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post 1686079283 07-08-2023, 08:39 AM
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Assess the reason you consume alcohol in the first place, srs. From there it's fighting the craving and finding alternatives.

EDIT: I misread, sorry. RLA has a point with the taper down method
post 1686079303 07-08-2023, 08:39 AM
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you’re smart enough to know what to do


Drink like 6 or 7 IPAs today until bed

5 tomorrow and the next day

4 the following two

And so on until zero (ded fkn Srs)
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post 1686079413 07-08-2023, 08:43 AM
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Some docs will prescribe you meds for detox without having to go to a detox facility. It’s usually a small amount but enough to keep you from DT/dying of a seizure. Call around and talk to a few, use what you get sparingly (the way they tell you to).


I kind of made an intermittent drinking schedule for myself. It’s not ideal but definitely controlled how much I drink. Only on certain days, only between a certain period of time. I’m still a heavy drinker, but it cut my numbers down by half.

As far as tapering totally off goes, do what RealLifeAlpha said.
post 1686079493 07-08-2023, 08:46 AM
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Go to AA

Edit: what RLA said
post 1686079673 07-08-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Assess the reason you consume alcohol in the first place, srs. From there it's fighting the craving and finding alternatives.

EDIT: I misread, sorry. RLA has a point with the taper down method
my compulsion right now is to mitigate panic/pain as it arises. this isn't a party
Originally Posted By RealLifeAlpha
you’re smart enough to know what to do


Drink like 6 or 7 IPAs today until bed

5 tomorrow and the next day

4 the following two

And so on until zero (ded fkn Srs)
i know that's the answer but do you think the IPA route is more dangerous than the 5% beers. i got into gigatrouble with liquor that one time and it seems closer to that than where i am
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You're almost dead anyway chronologically speaking. You don't have that many more years left on this earth and the years you do have left aren't your best years.

I'm not coming at this from a negative perspective, I'm really not. We all only have a limited amount of time on this earth, it's simply an efficiency question about how to best use the time that we do have.

I feel like there's no reason for you to stop drinking since you're almost dead already anyway. You should also steroidmaxx for the same reason, plus, it's not like you have any hair to lose.
ok, will do
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Some docs will prescribe you meds for detox without having to go to a detox facility. It’s usually a small amount but enough to keep you from DT/dying of a seizure. Call around and talk to a few, use what you get sparingly (they way they tell you to).


I kind of made an intermittent drinking schedule for myself. It’s not ideal but definitely controlled how much I drink. Only on certain days, only between a certain period of time. I’m still a heavy drinker, but it cut my numbers down by half.

As far as tapering totally off goes, do what RealLifeAlpha said.
can't go the benzo route. i refuse. i wanna taper but i also wanna sleep so they all need to be right before bed and then i'm dying during the day or lowkey sippin during the day and having a bolus right before bed or do i even need to do the sleep strat because it dramatically increases total per day and also specific amplitude

it's a troubling situation
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post 1686079843 07-08-2023, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
Go to AA

Edit: what RLA said
AA not even once


do you guys think i need to say, "any amount necessary to sleep must be correct" or does that mean i just rot here forever
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post 1686079853 07-08-2023, 08:53 AM
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my uncle described addiction to alcohol and cola as the hardest thig that he had ever done.
the physical sensations and mind games were insane.
he picked a date and just stopped cold turkey including associating with the people and places that he used to frequent.
the physical "bugs crawling" and sweats were the hardest part i was told.
So you just "go through with all of the pain" until you reach the other side.
it should take you about a month and eating will replace drinking.
best of luck
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post 1686079943 07-08-2023, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
my uncle described addiction to alcohol and cola as the hardest thig that he had ever done.
the physical sensations and mind games were insane.
he picked a date and just stopped cold turkey including associating with the people and places that he used to frequent.
the physical "bugs crawling" and sweats were the hardest part i was told.
So you just "go through with all of the pain" until you reach the other side.
it should take you about a month and eating will replace drinking.
best of luck
thanks, i appreciate that, but cold turkey is gonna put me in the hospital srs

i have all the time in the world to taper in a peaceful house but i keep fuarking up regarding sleep

do i fkn get big rinsed so i can do it no matter what and thus decrease overall anxiety etc

or do i fkn say sleep will come when it does and it doesn't affect my taper

i had idk 3-4 hours night before last and legit zero last night even though i drank a bunch (wasn't enough)

brutal predicament
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post 1686080023 07-08-2023, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
i know that's the answer but do you think the IPA route is more dangerous than the 5% beers. i got into gigatrouble with liquor that one time and it seems closer to that than where i am

If liquor is what got you here I think a 6-7% IPA will be the move so long as you stick to 6 or 7 max today and are disciplined about the taper.


you’re going to be fine, you’re probably wigged out due to the lack of sleep. follow the taper protocol, try not to worry about it too much and by the time you’re on like 5th day drinking 3 or 4 IPA you will likely be able to stop cold turkey if you really want (ded fkn Srs)
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post 1686080043 07-08-2023, 08:56 AM
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Ratty, we all die from something

The reality is you'll never stop drinking and you'll suffer from alcoholism your entire life until you succumb to liver disease or need a liver transplant

See George Best

post 1686080203 07-08-2023, 08:59 AM
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Naltrexone and Sinclair method can help kill the pleasure you get from alcohol

The book Naked Mind is worth reading

Even after tapering, withdrawals are going to suck and you may feel like you are dying.
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post 1686080263 07-08-2023, 09:00 AM
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[QUOTE=RealLifeAlpha post_id=1686080023]If liquor is what got you here I think a 6-7% IPA will be the move so long as you stick to 6 or 7 max today and are disciplined about the taper.


you’re going to be fine, you’re probably wigged out due to the lack of sleep. follow the taper protocol, try not to worry about it too much and by the time you’re on like 5th day drinking 3 or 4 IPA you will likely be able to stop cold turkey if you really want (ded fkn Srs)[/QUOTE]i had no liquor on my way to current situation. the taper protocol of course makes sense but how do i address sleep requiring slamming a 6er minimum and being impossible otherwise

[QUOTE=WishIWasJawBrah post_id=1686080043]Ratty, we all die from something

The reality is you'll never stop drinking and you'll suffer from alcoholism your entire life until you succumb to liver disease or need a liver transplant

See George Best

[img]https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5349354.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/PAY-George-Best-in-hospital.jpg[img][/QUOTE]thanks, (jaw)brah
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post 1686080273 07-08-2023, 09:00 AM
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This has nothing to do with Tapering or withdrawal management (though I think some have sad it helps with that), but...

I've started using Kratom a bit and that has helped a huge amount. Has dramatically reduced cravings to drink, the few times I have I really haven't enjoyed it at all, and it's something that can get you feeling pretty good. Disclaimer - some people get addicted to and abuse the shyt out that stuff too though, so user discretion is advised. Don't be the person using it daily, taking it multiple times a day, and using massive amounts.
post 1686080313 07-08-2023, 09:00 AM
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Just take TUDCA, NAC and/or milk thistle and keep on rolling
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post 1686080513 07-08-2023, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
i had no liquor on my way to current situation. the taper protocol of course makes sense but how do i address sleep requiring slamming a 6er minimum and being impossible otherwise



thanks, (jaw)brah
You need to accept the fact that your sleep is going to be dog **** for a week, maybe two (ded fkn Srs)



the less you fixate on the sleep part the better you will sleep



just accept that sleep won’t be great for a week +
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post 1686080703 07-08-2023, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By RealLifeAlpha
You need to accept the fact that your sleep is going to be dog **** for a week, maybe two (ded fkn Srs)



the less you fixate on the sleep part the better you will sleep



just accept that sleep won’t be great for a week +
ok, since i'm not taking nazi stims and forcing myself to stay awake, i'm not gonna die from lack of sleep rite lol

having to get nuked to nap is the most retarded thing in my life so far fuark

sry for clowning u about the gal btw, i just think you deserve the best srs
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post 1686080863 07-08-2023, 09:08 AM
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I don’t think you need to taper with as much as rla is saying. Not with 6 drinks. Maybe 3,2, then 1 for a couple days
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
ok, since i'm not taking nazi stims and forcing myself to stay awake, i'm not gonna die from lack of sleep rite lol
nah lol you’re just gonna have the crappy 2-5 hrs of sleep where you don’t even know if you slept at all (ded fkn Srs)

once you’re completely tapered will sleep like a rock


unfortunately now when I even have 3 or 4 drinks my sleep is ****ed
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
I don’t think you need to taper with as much as rla is saying. Not with 6 drinks. Maybe 3,2, then 1 for a couple days
i had 14 yesterday, bro

i'm deep

but it was like in the hopes of snoozing and that didn't even occur

gayer than literal fgts

i spent days in my gal's house once and demanded she mix me drinks and it legit ended up being about a 5th a day for a couple days

i get horrible hangovers, try to drink my way out of it when i wake up, and then end up spiraling

each time the total drinking duration is 1 week but ramped so hard that i get mega fkn deep
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Find another addiction that’s less toxic for you’re health. Lots of people doing jiu jitsu these days
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer
Find another addiction that’s less toxic for you’re health. Lots of people doing jiu jitsu these days
wood always choose sippin with the sloots over rollin with the boys
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btw, boys, i'm actively drinking right now at 8 am

wood never lie to you fellas
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
i had 14 yesterday, bro

i'm deep

but it was like in the hopes of snoozing and that didn't even occur

gayer than literal fgts
I still don’t think you need that high amounts to taper

and you will likely suffer withdrawal affects long after you stop. PAWS (post acute withdrawal symptoms)
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So here is a 280 page thread in the ov35 section on this very topic.
i would read through it and see what the guys there suggest or have done, GL

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=112883921

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Originally Posted By Rajc
just drink zero calorie sodas instead
i will but i'm in a retarded hole rn
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Jfc imagine being addicted to the least fun drug out there. You’re beyond pathetic. Honestly there’s no point in giving you advice. You’re weak
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
So here is a 280 page thread in the ov35 section on this very topic.
i would read through it and see what the guys there suggest or have done, GL

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=112883921

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keep forgetting that i'm over 35

fuark

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