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Can't hide the bodies from the insurance companies.
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Jabbies not liking the implications here. Good luck.
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He's not an actuary.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
He's not an actuary.
What should be done about rising cases with this new variant?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
What should be done about rising cases with this new variant?
What do sensible people think should be done, or what do branch covidians like JLC think should be done?

As a sensible adult, I think we should go on about normal life without worry for a cold. **** my family and I just had covid again. It was a cold. Life goes on. No one feels bad for me.
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I like what I've read about Ivermectin. If I caught COVID again I'd want to try ivermectin to see if it helped me.

To improve my health and avoid infections, such as COVID, I try and spend at least 30 minutes outside in the afternoon. Some small studies done have shown sunlight strengthens the immune system, helping to prevent virus infections.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1220094633.htm

Sunlight, through a mechanism separate than vitamin D production, energizes T cells that play a central role in human immunity, researchers have found. The findings suggest how the skin, the body’s largest organ, stays alert to the many microbes that can nest there.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
He's not an actuary.
No, but he is quoting them.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Jabbies not liking the implications here. Good luck.
Since I'm not going to listen to 16 minutes, exactly where in the video did he connect vaccination status to death rates...?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
He's not an actuary.
This is true, and completely irrelevant. He's discussing UK, US, and NZ reports written by actuaries.
Originally Posted By nutsy54
Since I'm not going to listen to 16 minutes, exactly where in the video did he connect vaccination status to death rates...?
Nowhere. That's the best part - they all died of coincidence.
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Definitely not covid?

Most who died had received a vaccine and had no history of covid infection?
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea
I like what I've read about Ivermectin. If I caught COVID again I'd want to try ivermectin to see if it helped me.

To improve my health and avoid infections, such as COVID, I try and spend at least 30 minutes outside in the afternoon. Some small studies done have shown sunlight strengthens the immune system, helping to prevent virus infections.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1220094633.htm

Sunlight, through a mechanism separate than vitamin D production, energizes T cells that play a central role in human immunity, researchers have found. The findings suggest how the skin, the body’s largest organ, stays alert to the many microbes that can nest there.
Lol that you need to try and find 30 minutes outside daily, like some fat boomer going for a daily walk. Take up golf, son, and no carts, fattie.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Definitely not covid?
Data is collated from people who died from other causes, so - allowing for some minor margin of errors with not diagnosing I suppose - yes.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Most who died had received a vaccine and had no history of covid infection?
From what I found from a few google searches the estimates for the US and UK are that around 80% of people have been vaccinated, and around 70-77% of people would be considered as currently fully dosed up. So the odds of these excess deaths being purely unvaccinated are pretty slim.
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Originally Posted By adamsteve14
What do sensible people think should be done, or what do branch covidians like JLC think should be done?

As a sensible adult, I think we should go on about normal life without worry for a cold. **** my family and I just had covid again. It was a cold. Life goes on. No one feels bad for me.
People like JLC want to push the narrative as far towards “long Covid” as possible. That’s why he talks about ridiculous studies which claim that over 17% of people have Covid symptoms a year after infection. Anyone who knows and interacts with people realizes that’s absolute horsesh!t. And that’s just the beginning. He claims it’s likely that hundreds of millions of people have brain damage from Covid. The list goes on and on and on. They want to look at every possible explanation for the health issues except the one thing that’s an experimental treatment(in a form we’ve never successfully created) that we know causes all these issues and that was administered to billions of people. He’s running cover for the corporations who have done exactly this type of thing(exaggerated benefits of their products while lying about health risks). I hope he’s getting paid good because it’s a pretty terrible thing to do.
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Originally Posted By TheJimmyRustler
Data is collated from people who died from other causes, so - allowing for some minor margin of errors with not diagnosing I suppose - yes.



From what I found from a few google searches the estimates for the US and UK are that around 80% of people have been vaccinated, and around 70-77% of people would be considered as currently fully dosed up. So the odds of these excess deaths being purely unvaccinated are pretty slim.
Do you think it's possible to have negative health consequences from a virus after the point of testing negative?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
People like JLC want to push the narrative as far towards “long Covid” as possible. That’s why he talks about ridiculous studies which claim that over 17% of people have Covid symptoms a year after infection. Anyone who knows and interacts with people realizes that’s absolute horsesh!t. And that’s just the beginning. He claims it’s likely that hundreds of millions of people have brain damage from Covid. The list goes on and on and on. They want to look at every possible explanation for the health issues except the one thing that’s an experimental treatment(in a form we’ve never successfully created) that we know causes all these issues and that was administered to billions of people. He’s running cover for the corporations who have done exactly this type of thing(exaggerated benefits of their products while lying about health risks). I hope he’s getting paid good because it’s a pretty terrible thing to do.
So now it's time to break out the straw men as defense by proxy?

Still trying the silly character attacks though
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Lol that you need to try and find 30 minutes outside daily, like some fat boomer going for a daily walk. Take up golf, son, and no carts, fattie.
Need a cart for beer cooler and music speaker bro
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Do you think it's possible to have negative health consequences from a virus after the point of testing negative?
Certainly.

I also think it's possible to derive negative health consequences from a vaccine which is known to, in some cases, cause such things as blood clots, heart issues and death; even the governments pushing them, and the producers of them, acknowledge this.

What's your view on that?
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Originally Posted By TheJimmyRustler
Certainly.

I also think it's possible to derive negative health consequences from a vaccine which is known to, in some cases, cause such things as blood clots, heart issues and death; even the governments pushing them, and the producers of them, acknowledge this.

What's your view on that?
I think the health risks of vaccination are orders of magnitude lower than the health risks of immunonaive infection.

I also think the state of the world created a cottage industry for CT's.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I think the health risks of vaccination are orders of magnitude lower than the health risks of immunonaive infection.

I also think the state of the world created a cottage industry for CT's.
You also think that hundreds of millions of people have brain damage from Covid, and like studies which conclude that over 17% of people who get Covid still have symptoms a year later….so it’s probably not a good idea for people to put much stock in the things you think.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
You also think that hundreds of millions of people have brain damage from Covid, and like studies which conclude that over 17% of people who get Covid still have symptoms a year later….so it’s probably not a good idea for people to put much stock in the things you think.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
You also think that hundreds of millions of people have brain damage from Covid, and like studies which conclude that over 17% of people who get Covid still have symptoms a year later….so it’s probably not a good idea for people to put much stock in the things you think.
It's funny how your strategy is to attempt to tell me what I think

Current estimates suggest upwards of 65 million people are experiencing long covid.

If you want to claim 100's of millions, that's fine. But some support for the claim would be helpful in fostering discussion.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I think the health risks of vaccination are orders of magnitude lower than the health risks of immunonaive infection.
And let's hope that it turns out to be this way to the degree that you and others think, because if it does turn out that they cause significant issues, as others believe, it's going to mean that a lot of people are going to have been harmed by something meant to prevent harm from something that, in all of my social circles, hasn't been as bad as was feared.

Something I'd raise as a problem with your line of reasoning, however, is that I'm not aware of there being in-depth research being done into excess deaths etc and their relation to vaccines - or even anything being done to investigate the excess deaths at all. So while your conclusion comes from the studies that arebeing done, itmight very well be different if the studiesnotbeing done, were.
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Originally Posted By TheJimmyRustler
And let's hope that it turns out to be this way to the degree that you and others think, because if it does turn out that they cause significant issues, as others believe, it's going to mean that a lot of people are going to have been harmed by something meant to prevent harm from something that, in all of my social circles, hasn't been as bad as was feared.

Something I'd raise as a problem with your line of reasoning, however, is that I'm not aware of there being in-depth research being done into excess deaths etc and their relation to vaccines - or even anything being done to investigate the excess deaths at all. So while your conclusion comes from the studies that arebeing done, itmight very well be different if the studiesnotbeing done, were.
It's a bit of an overstatement to suggest nobody is investigating excess deaths.

It's just that the CT's have no support of evidence
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"Since July 2021, long COVID has been recognized as a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)."

Meaning, one would qualify for monthly SSI payments, presumably, like most "disabilities" for a very long period of time.

Long covid disability payments will become an additional social justice program to distribute wealth.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Since I'm not going to listen to 16 minutes, exactly where in the video did he connect vaccination status to death rates...?
120 thousand post vax shill LMFAO
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's funny how your strategy is to attempt to tell me what I think

Current estimates suggest upwards of 65 million people are experiencing long covid.

If you want to claim 100's of millions, that's fine. But some support for the claim would be helpful in fostering discussion.
So you never said you think there could be hundreds of millions of people with brain damage from Covid?
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Since I'm not going to listen to 16 minutes, exactly where in the video did he connect vaccination status to death rates...?
Vaccinated people seem to be under the impression when someone dies 'suddenly'. The coroner/death investigator makes an effort to determine someone's vaccination status. They are able to input this vaccination status into a giant data-base. And if during the autopsy they are found to have died from myocarditis, blood clots, etc. that can also be put into some giant data-base. And AI or some staff is sifting to the records to find a link between vaccinated people dying from anything specific at higher rates then unvaccinated people. They also seem to be under the impression that since this data is not emerging from deaths. The vaccine must be safe or not causing these deaths.


I'm not sure why people assume death investigations work that way. Since I investigate them and work with the coroners office let me give you a clue. If you 'die suddenly'. A police officer responds with the coroner. A brief investigation is completed to determine if you were murdered or possibly over-dosed. You are bagged and tagged. If the coroner/medical examiner does an autopsy and discovers you died of myocarditis for example. Your death is considered natural. That's it. There is no way to document your vaccination status. There is no way to correlate vaccination status to specific deaths or determine if there is any kind of trend or pattern.


If you think Big pharma, the government, or the person that vaccinated and boosted you are actively researching to see how many vaccinated people are dying of certain causes. You're delusional. How many times has the person that vaccinated you contacted you for a follow up? How many medical appointments have you done to research any possible long term effects of the vaccine?



You have to realize until very recently even if a medical doctor or scientist questioned the safety of the vaccine they were banned/shadow-banned/de-platformed for even suggesting it publicly. I personally know doctors and coroners that have their own opinions on the matter. But they keep them to themself. If you happen to notice a specific pattern. You just feel pretty freaking good about your decisions and keep your opinions and knowledge of said pattern to yourself.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
So you never said you think there could be hundreds of millions of people with brain damage from Covid?
Nope.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
People like JLC want to push the narrative as far towards “long Covid” as possible. That’s why he talks about ridiculous studies which claim that over 17% of people have Covid symptoms a year after infection. Anyone who knows and interacts with people realizes that’s absolute horsesh!t. And that’s just the beginning. He claims it’s likely that hundreds of millions of people have brain damage from Covid. The list goes on and on and on. They want to look at every possible explanation for the health issues except the one thing that’s an experimental treatment(in a form we’ve never successfully created) that we know causes all these issues and that was administered to billions of people. He’s running cover for the corporations who have done exactly this type of thing(exaggerated benefits of their products while lying about health risks). I hope he’s getting paid good because it’s a pretty terrible thing to do.
As we see more & more evidence & truth comes out of the jab doing harm & killing those who took it..you will see people that are paid to go into forum’s & social media to shift narratives & slide forums to blame “Covid” so governments & pharmaceutical companies remain protected from liability.

JLC is one of these people.

His post history speaks for itself .
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Originally Posted By guest89
Vaccinated people seem to be under the impression when someone dies 'suddenly'. The coroner/death investigator makes an effort to determine someone's vaccination status. They are able to input this vaccination status into a giant data-base. And if during the autopsy they are found to have died from myocarditis, blood clots, etc. that can also be put into some giant data-base. And AI or some staff is sifting to the records to find a link between vaccinated people dying from anything specific at higher rates then unvaccinated people. They also seem to be under the impression that since this data is not emerging from deaths. The vaccine must be safe or not causing these deaths.


I'm not sure why people assume death investigations work that way. Since I investigate them and work with the coroners office let me give you a clue. If you 'die suddenly'. A police officer responds with the coroner. A brief investigation is completed to determine if you were murdered or possibly over-dosed. You are bagged and tagged. If the coroner/medical examiner does an autopsy and discovers you died of myocarditis for example. Your death is considered natural. That's it. There is no way to document your vaccination status. There is no way to correlate vaccination status to specific deaths or determine if there is any kind of trend or pattern.


If you think Big pharma, the government, or the person that vaccinated and boosted you are actively researching to see how many vaccinated people are dying of certain causes. You're delusional. How many times has the person that vaccinated you contacted you for a follow up? How many medical appointments have you done to research any possible long term effects of the vaccine?



You have to realize until very recently even if a medical doctor or scientist questioned the safety of the vaccine they were banned/shadow-banned/de-platformed for even suggesting it publicly. I personally know doctors and coroners that have their own opinions on the matter. But they keep them to themself. If you happen to notice a specific pattern. You just feel pretty freaking good about your decisions and keep your opinions and knowledge of said pattern to yourself.
So it's like elephants hiding in trees?
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