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post 1689289543 08-31-2023, 03:21 PM
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I think the confusion about Vol/Tone comes from modern amps and especially digit4lz that offer a huge array of settings. Back in the day the volume of the master volume of the amp was both gain and volume. So in order to have some kind of "gain" you would need to turn the amp pretty loud.
OD pedals helped of course but there were no pedals when the standard layout of the guitar was designed. Back then most amps where 2-3 knob amps. So, back to the layout of the guitar, you would set the amp pretty loud for a little compression and power amp distortion and then from the guitar volume you would turn the amp quieter or louder while at the same time you'd get less or more gain.
Since the amps were simple the tone pot of the guitar would've acted like an extra lopass filter.
You can still do it today with dynamic single channel amps especially and it's a great way to get to "know your guitar". Turn the volume lower, go cleaner. Turn it louder to go for some lead parts. Turn the tone down for some mid bump aka nasally, woody tones - great for blues. Turn it up to get some sizzle and bite.
For a long period of time I was 10/10 player. First thing when picking up my guitar was to make sure that pots were 10/10. LOL
It takes a while to start to actually use them in a musical way but it's worth it imo.
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post 1689301573 08-31-2023, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
With these Bareknuckle pickups in the Charvel Rick Graham model I noticed that I like to roll off the highs a bit for gain-y tones.

For clean tones I often will have different tone knob settings depending upon the mood and chit.

Been trying to get more into that horrific chorus effect and noticed that I don't mind it if it's used as a light, subtle enhancement as opposed to the Mike Stern let's fukkin drench the CHIT out of the guitar tone with the the thickest, most warbly-est, most vomit-inducing amount of chorus possible so as to make the actual tone the guitar inherently meaningless.
You don't like that 80s clean chorus Rockman type tone? I love that chit
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Originally Posted By brosapiens⏩
I think the confusion about Vol/Tone comes from modern amps and especially digit4lz that offer a huge array of settings. Back in the day the volume of the master volume of the amp was both gain and volume. So in order to have some kind of "gain" you would need to turn the amp pretty loud.
OD pedals helped of course but there were no pedals when the standard layout of the guitar was designed. Back then most amps where 2-3 knob amps. So, back to the layout of the guitar, you would set the amp pretty loud for a little compression and power amp distortion and then from the guitar volume you would turn the amp quieter or louder while at the same time you'd get less or more gain.
Since the amps were simple the tone pot of the guitar would've acted like an extra lopass filter.
You can still do it today with dynamic single channel amps especially and it's a great way to get to "know your guitar". Turn the volume lower, go cleaner. Turn it louder to go for some lead parts. Turn the tone down for some mid bump aka nasally, woody tones - great for blues. Turn it up to get some sizzle and bite.
For a long period of time I was 10/10 player. First thing when picking up my guitar was to make sure that pots were 10/10. LOL
It takes a while to start to actually use them in a musical way but it's worth it imo.
All my guitars the tone stays at 10. I dial back the volume knob as needed. To me, with no tone knob the sound is a little brighter. I guess that's why I like single humbucker guitars with just a single volume knob the best.

I'm always tweaking and changing chit on the amps and multi effects pedal software. Always switching from the effects loop to the direct inputs and vice versa. Easier to just hit a pedal and adjust the guitar volume. I guess I'm not good at dialing in sounds on the amp and effects, lmao. Always chasing a better tone...
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post 1689349623 09-01-2023, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Ahem. I'm super drunk and here's my impression of esteemed english jazz guitarist John McLaughlin. This is literally exactly what he sounds like. Prove me wrong philistines.

Says the video is private can't watch it.
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I play with my knob all the time
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https://youtu.be/NBx0cDLvCvQ?si=FZ8hT1ejfrkcD2dt


Eric Gales kicks ass again. This song is usually not an instrumental but it kicks ass as one
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Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
https://youtu.be/NBx0cDLvCvQ?si=FZ8hT1ejfrkcD2dt


Eric Gales kicks ass again. This song is usually not an instrumental but it kicks ass as one
Eric Gales is an example of learning to play music vs learning to play the guitar.

















He also spent too much time listening to Eric Johnson
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Originally Posted By brosapiens⏩
Eric Gales is an example of learning to play music vs learning to play the guitar.

















He also spent too much time listening to Eric Johnson
He admits he was influenced by EJ, but EG is total different animal. Maybe in EGs early 90s playing but there's nobody like him right now. EJ is great but I find a ton of stuff boring. EG is on 10 all the time and there's really nobody else like him.

I can barely watch a live show of EJ besides Cliffs of Dover because he's almost robotic. EG obviously not
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Here an older than dirt video but that rhythm is crazy

https://youtu.be/K_DOnKJ232M?si=IMRJkR91eQ58qk35
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
In your case some fast fusion shred, preferably with mostly picking over legato lol.
Could you be more specific, lol. Going to have to visit some ghosts from guitar past. Will pile on oodles of Stern chorus and Hiland slapback for ya, lol.
Originally Posted By adimare⏩
Hahaha nice call out. I'm actually a drummer so no guitar shredding videos from me. Since we've been talking jazz I do have a live recording of me playing jazz drums from years ago for a piece I arranged:

https://soundcloud.com/alejandro-di-...-in-wonderland
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Lol I kind of want to buy this.

https://amplifiednation.com/product/...-overdrive-v4/
Copying the circuit is one thing but it's always seemed creepy how they'll completely rip the look of Dumble amps right down to the font.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Yeah but are Dumbles really worth $150K? With the ridiculous pricing of Dumble amps I don't mind the complete ripping off everything about it for like literally 50x less money.
I have a Ceriatone OTS20. It's not a 1:1 Dumble, I understand that, but if that's close to the "Dumble sound" then it's not much to write home about.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Yeah I wish I had a Dumble available to try out just to see if it's hype or not. I do like Robben Ford's tone I must say.
I think it's mostly in the hands, bro
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Rollerball trigger warning: Schmoe Satriale content

80s/early 90s Satriani kicked arse. Bissonette brothers from DLR band on rhythm duty here.

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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Like eating a sandwich that's nothing but two pieces of white bread. And chasing that down with a glass of room temperature water.
If you can play a better rock solo than that I'll buy you a '68 Plexi.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Pfft he's dedicated his whole life to playing that same rock solo in 100 different songs. I'd like to hear Schmoe do a real shredder solo with furious picking and not the same legato 101 phrases and gimmicky edge of pick tapping he uses when he runs out of ideas in every other song.
You could make the same argument for Malmsteen. At the end of the day that song is the perfect vehicle for what he does. If you don't like it that's perfectly fine but it definitely has its place. Some people don't like AC/DC.

Whereas you focus on his lack of picking chops which I couldn't give two chits for my ear is focused on his bending, vibrato, phrasing, and overall melodic approach which was all top tier back then.

Here's a bold statement. Many players today with chops have a very poor grasp of what I said I value most about Satriani. Their chops make for a nice 30 second instagram video before moving on to the next bite sized shredfest — most of it is forgettable.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Let's just compare the Schmoe to his contemporary Steve Vai, and yes I know he once took lessons from Schmoe but clearly surpassed Schmoe in every respect. The solo in this track just annihilates any solo Schmoe has ever done let's be real.

If you treat music like a sport then yes and that was the general consensus back then — the student had eclipsed the teacher. However all these years later I don't see it that way at all and I love both of those guys equally. Steve isn't as adept as Joe at writing songs with memorable melodic hooks and usually puts that quirky Zappa thing on it which I can appreciate but many don't. Joe can hang with anyone on a blues jam where Steve himself would even admit he's not comfortable at all.

I thought this was one of Vai's best.



And with DLR:

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