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09-09-2023, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By AlfBundy⏩
Same retards who complain about CEO pay, corporate profits and capitalism support the biggest exploitation of cheap labor in the United States.You can thank immigration for that, son. Before America was flooded with cheap labor from the third world, a working class man could afford a house and a family
Those corporations spout some diversity crap the morons eat it up
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Originally Posted By AlfBundy⏩
that, and feminismYou can thank immigration for that, son. Before America was flooded with cheap labor from the third world, a working class man could afford a house and a family
Women entered the workforce, less demand for american labor (illegals) and less demand male labor (feminism).
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Illegal? No.
But it shouldn't be possible (i'm assuming super wealthy = 1b+) within the system to acquire that much money. No one needs or deserves a billy.
I agree with high taxes on amassed wealth, but there should be super tax breaks if you are spending your income on american companies/products. IE if you make 100 million a year but you spend 98 of it in the American economy that year, you get taxed like anyone else. If you spend 2 million and put 98million in bank the tax man eats your financial soul.
You can make it and use it if it's going back into our economy. If you're gonna be a wealth dragon and hoard it just **** off.
But it shouldn't be possible (i'm assuming super wealthy = 1b+) within the system to acquire that much money. No one needs or deserves a billy.
I agree with high taxes on amassed wealth, but there should be super tax breaks if you are spending your income on american companies/products. IE if you make 100 million a year but you spend 98 of it in the American economy that year, you get taxed like anyone else. If you spend 2 million and put 98million in bank the tax man eats your financial soul.
You can make it and use it if it's going back into our economy. If you're gonna be a wealth dragon and hoard it just **** off.
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
Hoarding your wealth is now a crime?Illegal? No.
But it shouldn't be possible (i'm assuming super wealthy = 1b+) within the system to acquire that much money. No one needs or deserves a billy.
I agree with high taxes on amassed wealth, but there should be super tax breaks if you are spending your income on american companies/products. IE if you make 100 million a year but you spend 98 of it in the American economy that year, you get taxed like anyone else. If you spend 2 million and put 98million in bank the tax man eats your financial soul.
You can make it and use it if it's going back into our economy. If you're gonna be a wealth dragon and hoard it just **** off.
But it shouldn't be possible (i'm assuming super wealthy = 1b+) within the system to acquire that much money. No one needs or deserves a billy.
I agree with high taxes on amassed wealth, but there should be super tax breaks if you are spending your income on american companies/products. IE if you make 100 million a year but you spend 98 of it in the American economy that year, you get taxed like anyone else. If you spend 2 million and put 98million in bank the tax man eats your financial soul.
You can make it and use it if it's going back into our economy. If you're gonna be a wealth dragon and hoard it just **** off.
09-09-2023, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Pretty sure no where in my post did I say anything like that. Also started the post by saying it shouldn't be illegal.Hoarding your wealth is now a crime?
But if you are of billionaire wealth and the majority of your money is just sitting somewhere growing, I hope you get shot in the face, illegally.
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09-09-2023, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
There's nothing wrong with money sitting there and growing and most billionaires and people with any sort of wealth are letting their money sit their and grow.Pretty sure no where in my post did I say anything like that. Also started the post by saying it shouldn't be illegal.
But if you are of billionaire wealth and the majority of your money is just sitting somewhere growing, I hope you get shot in the face, illegally.
But if you are of billionaire wealth and the majority of your money is just sitting somewhere growing, I hope you get shot in the face, illegally.
Most billionaires do not have a billion in cash. They have a billion in assets.
And while billionaires have assets sitting there and growing, those assets are not just doing nothing... Those assets are providing capital for companies/organizations to make money. For example, if you bought a 20 year bond, the government is borrowing your money to fund its activities so even though your money isn't technically doing much for you, it's helping out the government. Same with stocks.
Plus, with many billionaires much of it is in stocks. For guys like elon musk, if he sells all of his tesla stock, the price of tesla would crash
In short, money sitting there and growing is about capital allocation which helps fund economic activities even though it looks like its just sitting there and doing nothing
09-09-2023, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
Make a 100 mil, and spend 98 on gold-coated toilet bowl and useless yacht, and other obscene nonsense, and get a tax break. This is what them ultra high net worth people tend to do. Taxation should be fair. Not punishing for being smart, and no loopholes to get a tax breakIllegal? No.
But it shouldn't be possible (i'm assuming super wealthy = 1b+) within the system to acquire that much money. No one needs or deserves a billy.
I agree with high taxes on amassed wealth, but there should be super tax breaks if you are spending your income on american companies/products. IE if you make 100 million a year but you spend 98 of it in the American economy that year, you get taxed like anyone else. If you spend 2 million and put 98million in bank the tax man eats your financial soul.
You can make it and use it if it's going back into our economy. If you're gonna be a wealth dragon and hoard it just **** off.
But it shouldn't be possible (i'm assuming super wealthy = 1b+) within the system to acquire that much money. No one needs or deserves a billy.
I agree with high taxes on amassed wealth, but there should be super tax breaks if you are spending your income on american companies/products. IE if you make 100 million a year but you spend 98 of it in the American economy that year, you get taxed like anyone else. If you spend 2 million and put 98million in bank the tax man eats your financial soul.
You can make it and use it if it's going back into our economy. If you're gonna be a wealth dragon and hoard it just **** off.
09-09-2023, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
Why???Pretty sure no where in my post did I say anything like that. Also started the post by saying it shouldn't be illegal.
But if you are of billionaire wealth and the majority of your money is just sitting somewhere growing, I hope you get shot in the face, illegally.
But if you are of billionaire wealth and the majority of your money is just sitting somewhere growing, I hope you get shot in the face, illegally.
09-09-2023, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
There is a correct answer in economic terms. When someone amasses enough wealth to break the system through corruption, market manipulation, distortion of labor markets, predatory collusion/pricing tactics, etc. - that is a market failure. The system is no longer efficiently allocating resources. They are economic parasites that are actively hurting your economy and country.How much money is too much money? The answer is always more than I have.
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Income tax should be capped at 20% across the board regardless of what you make.
Y'all remember all the memes about people who make $30k crying about Biden raising taxes on households over $400k? That was what 2 years ago. I know people who weren't making $200k two years ago who blew past that $400k threshold. And they get punished for being successful. If anything, the poor should pay more taxes. It may incentivise them to get their shyt together.
Y'all remember all the memes about people who make $30k crying about Biden raising taxes on households over $400k? That was what 2 years ago. I know people who weren't making $200k two years ago who blew past that $400k threshold. And they get punished for being successful. If anything, the poor should pay more taxes. It may incentivise them to get their shyt together.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
So how much?There is a correct answer in economic terms. When someone amasses enough wealth to break the system through corruption, market manipulation, distortion of labor markets, predatory collusion/pricing tactics, etc. - that is a market failure. The system is no longer efficiently allocating resources. They are economic parasites that are actively hurting your economy and country.
09-09-2023, 08:36 PM
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How much do you think food prices increased if there weren't so many starving on the streets like OP claims though?
When you really think about it, the super wealthy can only eat so much, so they aren't putting a strain on demand by being wealthy. You distribute that out to people who start buying food with that money what really happens to the price of food? Gotta think it starts going way up, meaning all of our lives just got that much worse. You think eggs cost a lot now because of inflation??
When you really think about it, the super wealthy can only eat so much, so they aren't putting a strain on demand by being wealthy. You distribute that out to people who start buying food with that money what really happens to the price of food? Gotta think it starts going way up, meaning all of our lives just got that much worse. You think eggs cost a lot now because of inflation??
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09-09-2023, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
If you believe in capitalism and had a capitalist economic system, there definitely wouldn't be any billionaires.So how much?
No one has ever tried that, though. The richest man in the world is a welfare queen.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
You have no idea what you're talking about do you?If you believe in capitalism and had a capitalist economic system, there definitely wouldn't be any billionaires.
No one has ever tried that, though. The richest man in the world is a welfare queen.
No one has ever tried that, though. The richest man in the world is a welfare queen.
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
You think an african immigrant grifting tens of billionaires from US taxpayers or Bozos crushing every small business in the country is a service? You see that as a net good for society?Why wouldn’t there be billionaires? Why wouldn’t there be millionaires? Why wouldn’t there be hundred thousandaires?
How much did they steal from you by providing a service that the market wants?
You might be retarded, Ernesto.
How much did they steal from you by providing a service that the market wants?
You might be retarded, Ernesto.
How about all the pharma companies getting rich off the vax? Just providing a service, eh?
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I bet you guys learn tons about econ in cop school. Probably had you up all night reading Keynes and Friedman.You have no idea what you're talking about do you?
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Let me guess, Zuckerberg, Gates, Musk, Buffet, etc, don't deserve their wealth, it should be taken away from them and........ Well, let's hear it, what would "you" do with their money?You think an african immigrant grifting tens of billionaires from US taxpayers or Bozos crushing every small business in the country is a service? You see that as a net good for society?
How about all the pharma companies getting rich off the vax? Just providing a service, eh?
I bet you guys learn tons about econ in cop school. Probably had you up all night reading Keynes and Friedman.
How about all the pharma companies getting rich off the vax? Just providing a service, eh?
I bet you guys learn tons about econ in cop school. Probably had you up all night reading Keynes and Friedman.
09-09-2023, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The entire economic system is fundamentally broken. Do you agree or no?Let me guess, Zuckerberg, Gates, Musk, Buffet, etc, don't deserve their wealth, it should be taken away from them and........ Well, let's hear it, what would "you" do with their money?
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
not sure if srs. all billionaires got where they are from some kind of cheap labor down the line like some poor soul working for pennies mining cobalt, ain't no trickle down economy for them.Peopls seem to have this misconception of money.
If one person has a lot of it, that doesnt men others have to be poor. They can also have a lot of it.
Its not a finite resource.
So if you take rich peoples money, it does nothing to help poor people. Actually makes them poorer because they will be out of a job that was provided by the rich person.
If one person has a lot of it, that doesnt men others have to be poor. They can also have a lot of it.
Its not a finite resource.
So if you take rich peoples money, it does nothing to help poor people. Actually makes them poorer because they will be out of a job that was provided by the rich person.
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Originally Posted By PowerPal⏩
And the people bitching about it, are using the products that are made from that labor......not sure if srs. all billionaires got where they are from some kind of cheap labor down the line from some poor soul working for pennies like some African child mining cobalt.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Wow, spoken like a true revolutionary...... Let's hear what should be done about it...... Oh that's right, more government is always the answer with you people.The entire economic system is fundamentally broken. Do you agree or no?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Yes or no? And how would you fix it?Wow, spoken like a true revolutionary...... Let's hear what should be done about it...... Oh that's right, more government is always the answer with you people.
Simple questions.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Intellectuals are dreamers and idealists by nature. That's what draws them to such questions in the first place.Communism represents the ultimate and final form of self governance. It's the cold fusion of governments, so close and it could be so sweet if we could ever get it right.If humanity was to ever leave the earth, the only way it's possible is through communism (ask Elon). There's a reason it was picked, without debate, as the form of government for the future colony on Mars.
There's plenty enough food, water, housing, healthcare, education, etc. for everyone to live a decent life. All the wars, famine, and struggles for resources are artificial and imposed by a tiny group of greedy criminals. Why don't we all just pull in the same direction? Why are we too fukn stupid to help ourselves, as a species? The giga brains of humanity will wrestle with that until some depressed MOGGER finally hits the button and nukes us all.
But of course the reality is that we're just apes walking around in clothes and that's all we'll ever be. Rarely will anyone who amasses real power be willing to reach for anything beyond MOGGING poorcels, fukkin hot sloots, buying sick yachts, flying around in dink shaped rockets, etc.
There's plenty enough food, water, housing, healthcare, education, etc. for everyone to live a decent life. All the wars, famine, and struggles for resources are artificial and imposed by a tiny group of greedy criminals. Why don't we all just pull in the same direction? Why are we too fukn stupid to help ourselves, as a species? The giga brains of humanity will wrestle with that until some depressed MOGGER finally hits the button and nukes us all.
But of course the reality is that we're just apes walking around in clothes and that's all we'll ever be. Rarely will anyone who amasses real power be willing to reach for anything beyond MOGGING poorcels, fukkin hot sloots, buying sick yachts, flying around in dink shaped rockets, etc.
Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Probably communism's best chance to take hold srs. There would be abundant resources available to everyone.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Miscers literally don't know the difference between any forms of government. Most cannot even name the branches of government.Daily Reminder: ErnieMcCracken is full-blown communist
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Oh yes, everyone is just too ignorant to understand your literal words. Nice try, you commie fаggot.Miscers literally don't know the difference between any forms of government. Most cannot even name the branches of government.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Well, this explains everything.Daily Reminder: ErnieMcCracken is full-blown communist
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I didn't make the system boyo, I can still point out its flaws even though I participate. participation was forced on meAnd the people bitching about it, are using the products that are made from that labor......
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Don't use words you don't understand.Oh yes, everyone is just too ignorant to understand your literal words. Nice try, you commie fаggot.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Say it with me one more time Big Ern:Don't use words you don't understand.
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Communism represents the ultimate and final form of self governance. It's the cold fusion of governments, so close and it could be so sweet if we could ever get it right.

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