I misread her vibe. The reason I proposed a hangout was because she (1) texted herself from my phone and (2) said she'd text me when she's done with work, which I mistook for her meaning she wants me to wait for her so we can meet when she's off the clock. I feel a bit silly for thinking that, but her bubbly personality and demeanor, combined with my apparent desperation, made me think it was a good idea to ask her to hangout. I need to think more and not appear needy.

Thanks for the advice - will definitely keep it casual. I hope she's into texting and getting to know me. It really is a process that can't be rushed. I had it in my mind from a few of the posts here that I should be trying to make my intentions clear and have sex (assuming they're showing interest) within hours of meeting them. I think that's a bit unrealistic and obviously not my true nature. I want to find that adorable, loving girlfriend, not a quick bang.

This is something I have had to learn and have only relatively recently been pretty good at doing intentionally (not really because of actually being needy, but more because of realizing that seeming overly excited to be paid attention to is a turn-off). Over the years and especially in the recent past now that I'm single again, the girls I pay very little attention to, forget to respond to or intentionally ignore, etc., are the ones who seem most attracted to me the next time I run into them.

With respect to making your intentions clear, I don't think the advice was to try to meet up and bang within hours or a day or whatever. Rather, make it clear you're physically attracted to them and want to proceed accordingly rather than coming off as the ghey best friend/orbiter (kind of like the smart decision you made after receiving advice here to not respond to that one girl and agree to a "pause" as if you have some reason to wait around for her instead of moving on to the next).

LOL A+ trolling. Yes, that $0.50 machine diamond tat is making the bishes wet AF

Join Date: Mar 2005

Thats over 18 years ago yet OP is making such theads in 2023, no way this is real life...

EArlIer in thread miscer posted ss of msgs from this account from back then. Go look

OP's posting seemed consistent enough for the past 5 years when I went and looked. Yeah, he was edgier in his early 20s and before, but he also still laughed at a user behind named NumbDiggers or something like that ITT.

What has me most suspicious is his total ignoring of all advice regarding his looks and how surprisingly receptive most women seem to his advances.

damn, this thread is getting a bit strong

Love the thread. Keep doing you and I’ll keep Replying

Guys here are kinda retarded

It is implied by getting a girls number that you are already interested, you keep that interest going by texting them, getting to know them a bit and then setting up something on the weekend

It is not complicated

Amazing thread OP, will be following along your journey

Lol'd at the fake tattoos

I think the point some others earlier in the thread were trying to make was that he shouldn't get a number and then start sending walls of text, send multiple unanswered texts, etc., which he seems to have learned from. Also, that he shouldn't get heavily invested super early like every girl is his one shot at happiness but instead should have an abundance mentality, which he also seems to be learning from. I still cringed a bit at the above texts like "Howdy" and "I like finding new styles to wear" since grown men probably don't need to be cycling through "styles" like a teenager, but there is major improvement since earlier in the thread (aside from the gumball machine tattoos and bead bracelets).

OP, keep up the looksmaxxing efforts but do your best to avoid becoming a frauding weirdo with the affectations like fake tattoos and jewelry other than a watch (dangerously close to cringelord PUA territory).

If your text game is like OP then you definitely don't want to be texting a lot.

Ok agreed

[QUOTE=bradlehman post_id=1689944273]This is something I have had to learn and have only relatively recently been pretty good at doing intentionally (not really because of actually being needy, but more because of realizing that seeming overly excited to be paid attention to is a turn-off). Over the years and especially in the recent past now that I'm single again, the girls I pay very little attention to, forget to respond to or intentionally ignore, etc., are the ones who seem most attracted to me the next time I run into them.

With respect to making your intentions clear, I don't think the advice was to try to meet up and bang within hours or a day or whatever. Rather, make it clear you're physically attracted to them and want to proceed accordingly rather than coming off as the ghey best friend/orbiter (kind of like the smart decision you made after receiving advice here to not respond to that one girl and agree to a "pause" as if you have some reason to wait around for her instead of moving on to the next).[/QUOTE]Great point about being needy and overly excited essentially being the same unattractive trait. I got way too excited when I got a few indicators of interest from this young woman at the mall. I was pacing for an hour in part of the mall that wasn't closed, just waiting for her to text me in the event she wanted to see me after her shift. Supposedly absence makes the heart grow fonder, although there's obviously got to be some form of a connection established before that can be remotely true (i.e., at a minimum, in my opinion, they have to be physically attracted to you).

Damnit, you're right. I wish I would have acted that way a couple days ago. It was obvious I wanted to date her and she knew that. I even made a dad joke that she liked and it implied that she could be my girl one day. I didn't need to potentially shoot myself in the foot by replying to her, "Hey," within seconds. I haven't heard from her and it's been 4.5 hours. I guess she's not super interested, but that's what seduction is. She's at least mildly interested otherwise she wouldn't have talked to me for several minutes and given me her number.

Yes, I'm glad I haven't reached out to that woman who has a boyfriend. I've done my best to forget about her and the only time I see her is at the gym and we haven't made eye contact so it's all good.

[QUOTE=mulletwarrior post_id=1689944553]LOL A+ trolling. Yes, that $0.50 machine diamond tat is making the bishes wet AF[/QUOTE]It's worth a shot, right? It was very inexpensive and they're fun to mess with. It's an easy way to change up a look.

[QUOTE=mandarin163 post_id=1689944943]Join Date: Mar 2005

Thats over 18 years ago yet OP is making such theads in 2023, no way this is real life...

[img]https://i.redd.it/ank7db3i1edz.jpg[img][/QUOTE]It's real tea.

[QUOTE=EssEhn post_id=1689949963]EArlIer in thread miscer posted ss of msgs from this account from back then. Go look[/QUOTE]I'm the same guy. Always been me.

[QUOTE=legbroke post_id=1689950183]OP's posting seemed consistent enough for the past 5 years when I went and looked. Yeah, he was edgier in his early 20s and before, but he also still laughed at a user behind named NumbDiggers or something like that ITT.

What has me most suspicious is his total ignoring of all advice regarding his looks and how surprisingly receptive most women seem to his advances.[/QUOTE]Ignoring[i]all[/i]advice? I don't think that's accurate. I clearly have a hard time learning things the first time I'm told or shown how to do it. The receptiveness from women is variable. Sometimes it's decent, but other times it's not. Also, getting a number or IG doesn't seem to mean much as they can just ignore me or never accept my request.

[QUOTE=Ratfish post_id=1689950573]damn, this thread is getting a bit strong[/QUOTE]Thanks. I am persistent!

[QUOTE=Bigbuster1 post_id=1689950593]Love the thread. Keep doing you and I’ll keep Replying[/QUOTE]I really appreciate that, Bigbuster. I will keep on trying because the alternative is unimaginable to me.

[QUOTE=xbluexhawkx post_id=1689950843]Guys here are kinda retarded

It is implied by getting a girls number that you are already interested, you keep that interest going by texting them, getting to know them a bit and then setting up something on the weekend

It is not complicated[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Your succinct reply is something I appreciate and I'll do my best to act neurotypical. I'll also try to take things in a methodical manner and match the energy/pace of the woman.

[QUOTE=OdalfHilter post_id=1689952433]Amazing thread OP, will be following along your journey

Lol'd at the fake tattoos[/QUOTE]Thanks and strong username. Hehe, they're for a little bit sh!ts and a little bit giggles.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=bradlehman post_id=1689952663]I think the point some others earlier in the thread were trying to make was that he shouldn't get a number and then start sending walls of text, send multiple unanswered texts, etc., which he seems to have learned from. Also, that he shouldn't get heavily invested super early like every girl is his one shot at happiness but instead should have an abundance mentality, which he also seems to be learning from. I still cringed a bit at the above texts like "Howdy" and "I like finding new styles to wear" since grown men probably don't need to be cycling through "styles" like a teenager, but there is major improvement since earlier in the thread (aside from the gumball machine tattoos and bead bracelets).

OP, keep up the looksmaxxing efforts but do your best to avoid becoming a frauding weirdo with the affectations like fake tattoos and jewelry other than a watch (dangerously close to cringelord PUA territory).[/QUOTE]I feel like the only thing I'm unsure of is the multiple unanswered texts. I kind of just did that with the woman I'm insanely attracted to ([i]K[/i]in the screenshot above). Yeah, can't throw all my eggs into one basket just because a woman is attractive and gave me her number. That's such a doomer mentality, but I get why I feel that way because I'm relatively inexperienced and was a hermit for most of my life. Fair enough about the cringey texts. I need to be more NT!

I can scrap the fake tattoos in favor of a watch. I don't want to come across as inauthentic or as a try hard. Yes, I'll continue to maximize my looks. The lower the body fat, the better I am (obviously up to a certain point, but I'm nowhere near that level of lean).

[QUOTE=Barteh post_id=1689952713]If your text game is like OP then you definitely don't want to be texting a lot.[/QUOTE]I lol'd at this. Goodness, I feel as though you may be right about that.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=xbluexhawkx post_id=1689952813]Ok agreed[/QUOTE][img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The gorgeous young woman[i]K[/i]hasn't replied to my text. I can keep trying though. There's really no point in giving up on it. She may just be really difficult. Everyone's different. I figure if I don't hear back from her by Thursday afternoon, I follow up with a friendly text asking her if she's got any plans for the weekend. I think she'll be much more receptive to me after she sits down with me for 30-60 minutes and talks with me.

This is cool - I'm glad the single mom from the gym still wants to be friendly with me. Perhaps she and I will meet for that meal one day, but I'm not waiting on it.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/CDqQXcq.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Luc1fer post_id=1689964003][youtube]I-sFhCC39Ws[youtube][/QUOTE][img]https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.772586891.7507/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg[/img]

I am nowhere near that bad, lol! I'm thinking of how I'd do anything to meet with[i]K[/i]for a meal. I hate how my brain can't get her out because she's so damn attractive. How could I settle for less than her?

[b]Be calm. Be very calm.[/b]

The young woman from the mall namedKhasn't been very talkative via text. I'm hoping there's a way to get her to meet me so we can continue our fun, interesting, in-person conversation. I texted her earlier today in hopes she would reply to it and I'd not reply to her immediately. Perhaps give it a day or so, but she hasn't replied and looks like she's going to ignore it.



I have a date this Friday with an 18-year-old African girl I also met at the mall. I am renting a car for Friday and Saturday. I'm doing this not only because of the date, but also because I plan on going bar hopping with my female friend on Friday night and potentially Saturday night as well. I also plan on cold approaching at the mall for as many hours as I can.

If I were you, I would definitely consider cutting back on the exclamation points and texts that otherwise sound like they're coming from a girl. I'm not sure I've ever texted an exclamation point to anyone, especially any girl I had interest in, unless it was very clearly in jest.

Also, you probably don't need to address them by name each time. They know their name and surely assume that you do too since it's in your phone.

Good afternoon OP.

Have a wonderful Wednesday.

No, but you're pretty far along the spectrum, difficult to distinguish your texts from ChatGPT.

Okay, I won't write the exclamation points to females, at least not in the early stages before they've had time to get to know me. I'll cut back on saying her name as well. I get your point. It's a bit too formal and businesslike.Damnit. I'm trying to get better. I am persistent and will keep pursuingK. I plan on texting her something light and casual on Friday. If you have any ideas, please let me know.

Sort of odd that the texts to the female friend sound pretty normal and don't follow strict grammar rules while the ones to the prospects sound like a bot.

Which post are you referring to? The 18-year-old African woman is going on a date with me; we aren'tfriends. I may come across differently depending on the woman I'm talking with. I suppose how highly I regard them plays a factor in whether I feel intimidated by them or not. For example, I'm only intimidated by theKwoman at the moment. I regard her as ideal. Obviously I don't know this for sure yet, but that's the vibe I've gotten from speaking with her in person. She's articulate, young, fair-skinned, petite, and beautiful.

He's overthinking and trying to be formulaic with the women he's most attracted to. Made the claim earlier in the thread that correct grammar and sentence structure etc. would impress women.

Problem isn't grammar per-se, it's that the messages are cookie cutter (bot-like) and devoid of personality.

These looks things aren't to be learned - you just just do them or not. Certainly kudos to you on the lifting improvements, but it's the same glasses, facial hair, shirt, and haircut since day 1 it seems. You added fake tattoos, but the only person in support of that seems to be bluehawk. I'm not opposed to tattoos as a stylistic choice like the rest of the misc is, but the ones you selected do look goofy af - bolobrah-tier designs, and they don't look very realistic.Meh. You've done things as out there as sliding into LinkedIn DMs, and I don't recall you having a really negative reaction yet.This makes tons of sense to me. He's more comfortable with the longtime friend and defaults to some predetermined persona when talking to new woman. What doesn't add up?

OP just so you know I’m on your side 100%. You’re gonna fukin make it brah

I'm not saying I don't understand why it's happening; I'm thinking he should take a relaxed, comfortable tone with the new women too instead of texting robotically and sabotaging himself.

Also, this.

Yeah, I've made a bit of a mess with my texts toK. As I said in a previous post, I was under the impression she wanted me to wait for her to finish her shift so we could hangout. The mall closed at 6 PM and I was in a section of the mall that was still open, pacing back and forth until that closed at 7 PM, just waiting for her text. I was walking on the sidewalk when I got theHeytext from her. I replied immediately and we both know how things went after that.

I'm really determined to ask her out. I won't give up on it. It's something I feel very strongly about. Certain women have this kind of effect on me.I shave my facial hair before I go out. I'm going to the optometrist within the next few weeks. I'm taking this Friday off from work. I plan on going to a different mall and looking at clothes, such as those from Hugo Boss. I intend to upgrade my wardrobe. I'm going to buy a watch soon as well. Should I get a Rolex? There's a Rolex store at a different mall, same one that has the Hugo Boss store. I won't wear the fake tattoos now. They're clearly fake and not garnering any attention unless I call them out. Regarding your last sentence: I haven't had sex since May of last year, so apparently I'm not getting the positive reactions you're claiming.

I will post pictures on Friday or Saturday with new clothes and/or accessories. I promise.I will post pictures on Friday or Saturday with new clothes and/or accessories. I promise.

Ah fair enough. Speaking from experience, easier said than done as an autist (though maybe you're not implying it's easy)