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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
ah no?True, but what if it was a bout of covid?
What are we even talking about, going into a town? sitting in a small room with confirmed cases? there's a million scenarios, none have me wearing a surgical mask
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09-29-2023, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
Is he still making COVID seem bigger than it is?ah no?
What are we even talking about, going into a town? sitting in a small room with confirmed cases? there's a million scenarios, none have me wearing a surgical mask
What are we even talking about, going into a town? sitting in a small room with confirmed cases? there's a million scenarios, none have me wearing a surgical mask
09-29-2023, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
It was in reference to being a “doctor without Borders” and going to a third world country to treat people with TB. Instead of TB (where you said you’d just wear a respirator) what if it was covidah no?
What are we even talking about, going into a town? sitting in a small room with confirmed cases? there's a million scenarios, none have me wearing a surgical mask
What are we even talking about, going into a town? sitting in a small room with confirmed cases? there's a million scenarios, none have me wearing a surgical mask
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I don’t expect you to ever fully grasp the cluster-phuck that was working in healthcare at the height of the pandemic, so I’m not going to argue with you about this issue. I wasn’t getting my information from “the news” nor was I getting it from equally unqualified medically illiterate pundits with an agenda, misrepresenting data for the desperate attempt to be the first to break the news about a pandemic update. It was funny, suddenly everyone and their grandmother became an expert on all matters of virology and epidemiology, something that would normally take an individual 10 years of schooling to learn but they achieved it a Saturday afternoon of google “research.” I’m sorry that bombardment of information confused you.Is he still making COVID seem bigger than it is?
09-29-2023, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Give me a break, everybsingle time I had to babysit a prisoner at the hospital, it was like a ghost town. In fact, the doctor would usually clear them within an hr, because he had that much free time on his hands.It was in reference to being a “doctor without Borders” and going to a third world country to treat people with TB. Instead of TB (where you said you’d just wear a respirator) what if it was covid
I don’t expect you to ever fully grasp the cluster-phuck that was working in healthcare at the height of the pandemic, so I’m not going to argue with you about this issue. I wasn’t getting my information from “the news” nor was I getting it from equally unqualified medically illiterate pundits with an agenda, misrepresenting data for the desperate attempt to be the first to break the news about a pandemic update. It was funny, suddenly everyone and their grandmother became an expert on all matters of virology and epidemiology, something that would normally take an individual 10 years of schooling to learn but they achieved it a Saturday afternoon of google “research.” I’m sorry that bombardment of information confused you.
I don’t expect you to ever fully grasp the cluster-phuck that was working in healthcare at the height of the pandemic, so I’m not going to argue with you about this issue. I wasn’t getting my information from “the news” nor was I getting it from equally unqualified medically illiterate pundits with an agenda, misrepresenting data for the desperate attempt to be the first to break the news about a pandemic update. It was funny, suddenly everyone and their grandmother became an expert on all matters of virology and epidemiology, something that would normally take an individual 10 years of schooling to learn but they achieved it a Saturday afternoon of google “research.” I’m sorry that bombardment of information confused you.
Also, if it was so crazy, why were nurses being furloughed? How did the ones that remained have the time to make dancing tik tok videos?
09-29-2023, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
Is that how big you are dam, you should play for the Titans, they could really use your help.Surely 260lb 6'6 400lb bench press Benny wasn't afraid of a little cold right?
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09-29-2023, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Please stop with the commonsense replies that most people should already know; it doesn't go over well here on Fantasy Island.This has been a thing for years even before the pandemic at the hospitals ive worked at. Right around flu season (October-June the following year) there was a push to wear a mask. They wold have them in the lobby and triage areas in the ER. It wasn't mandated but it was highly encouraged.
Besides, it's a hospital. If there is any place someone should be wearing a mask it's in a place where the highest concentration of people are sick. Asian countries have been doing it for decades. In the West, the pandemic was just the spark to mandate a seasonal need for masks. Not just for covid but for any type of disease that may be spread.
Besides, it's a hospital. If there is any place someone should be wearing a mask it's in a place where the highest concentration of people are sick. Asian countries have been doing it for decades. In the West, the pandemic was just the spark to mandate a seasonal need for masks. Not just for covid but for any type of disease that may be spread.

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09-29-2023, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
So i just need to borrow the "angry list" so i can be prepared.Just another something to be mad about breh. lol
I mean how miserable do you have to be, to complain about everything?
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
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i corrected you, meltdowns are for serious real life matters, not "rob"
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Gallup who?
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I honestly do not have an issue with masks in hospitals.
I am not talking family doctors offices. I am talking hospitals. And this has nothing to do with covid.
So many people go into the hospital for one thing, and end up dying from something like pneumonia. Just tons and tons of germs flying around these places. And if you are staying in the hospital? You have something serious happening. This is not a normal cold or flu or sprained ankle thing. You have issues.
If wearing a mask could save even a few of those lives, and trust me I know they are almost useless....then I am OK with it.
Anywhere else? No.
I am not talking family doctors offices. I am talking hospitals. And this has nothing to do with covid.
So many people go into the hospital for one thing, and end up dying from something like pneumonia. Just tons and tons of germs flying around these places. And if you are staying in the hospital? You have something serious happening. This is not a normal cold or flu or sprained ankle thing. You have issues.
If wearing a mask could save even a few of those lives, and trust me I know they are almost useless....then I am OK with it.
Anywhere else? No.
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09-29-2023, 04:25 PM
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Also this has nothing to do with masks....but I would add that there is a pretty serious cold/flu going around already. And we are only in Sept. My wife and I have had it for 2 weeks and a lot of people I know and see on social media do as well.
Very strange for so early in the flu season year.
Very strange for so early in the flu season year.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
So everyone at a hospital needs to mask up? You get a bed, mask up? Get appendix surgery, wake up, put on a mask? Wear one while sleeping in a hospital bed?I honestly do not have an issue with masks in hospitals.
I am not talking family doctors offices. I am talking hospitals. And this has nothing to do with covid.
So many people go into the hospital for one thing, and end up dying from something like pneumonia. Just tons and tons of germs flying around these places. And if you are staying in the hospital? You have something serious happening. This is not a normal cold or flu or sprained ankle thing. You have issues.
If wearing a mask could save even a few of those lives, and trust me I know they are almost useless....then I am OK with it.
Anywhere else? No.
I am not talking family doctors offices. I am talking hospitals. And this has nothing to do with covid.
So many people go into the hospital for one thing, and end up dying from something like pneumonia. Just tons and tons of germs flying around these places. And if you are staying in the hospital? You have something serious happening. This is not a normal cold or flu or sprained ankle thing. You have issues.
If wearing a mask could save even a few of those lives, and trust me I know they are almost useless....then I am OK with it.
Anywhere else? No.
09-29-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Well.....yeah. I say this because have you ever been in a hospital admissions space? So many illegals and decrepit people with who knows what illness flowing through their bodies. It is disgusting.So everyone at a hospital needs to mask up? You get a bed, mask up? Get appendix surgery, wake up, put on a mask? Wear one while sleeping in a hospital bed?
Honestly I have been to the hospital once in my life for getting my tonsils taken out. I have been to a doctors office maybe a grand total of 5 times in my life. I have been to an orthopedist once.
I walked into a hospital admissions office here in S Cal a few years ago to get a shoulder x ray. Saw the people there. Walked right out.
I am over 45 years old.
I avoid doctors and hospitals if at all possible. The only reason I went to the doctors was when I had pneumonia in my 20s, and the only reason I went to the ortho was to get an MRI on my shoulder, neck, and elbow. Turns out I have a right shoulder completely shot, a right elbow with a chip the size of a quarter in it, and a disc in my neck bulging out about a half an inch
They want to do surgery on all 3.
I said no.
I just know from visiting people in the hospital how germ infested it is. Many people over the age of 70 go in there?
They never come out. A mask in that situation is not that much of a hindrance.
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Democrats strongly support new COVID-19 mask mandates, poll shows
https://katu.com/news/nation-world/d...ckdown-mandate
As some Americans are growing concerned with an increase in COVID-19 cases this fall, a new study shows that this fear may fall along party lines.
A whopping 76% of Democrats say they support a mask mandate, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports. Only a third of Republicans and 45% of unaffiliated respondents agreed.
https://katu.com/news/nation-world/d...ckdown-mandate
As some Americans are growing concerned with an increase in COVID-19 cases this fall, a new study shows that this fear may fall along party lines.
A whopping 76% of Democrats say they support a mask mandate, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports. Only a third of Republicans and 45% of unaffiliated respondents agreed.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
You can apply that to almost any public space. The subway, an airplane, a concert, a packed movie theater, etc.Well.....yeah. I say this because have you ever been in a hospital admissions space? So many illegals and decrepit people with who knows what illness flowing through their bodies. It is disgusting.
Honestly I have been to the hospital once in my life for getting my tonsils taken out. I have been to a doctors office maybe a grand total of 5 times in my life. I have been to an orthopedist once.
I walked into a hospital admissions office here in S Cal a few years ago to get a shoulder x ray. Saw the people there. Walked right out.
I am over 45 years old.
I avoid doctors and hospitals if at all possible. The only reason I went to the doctors was when I had pneumonia in my 20s, and the only reason I went to the ortho was to get an MRI on my shoulder, neck, and elbow. Turns out I have a right shoulder completely shot, a right elbow with a chip the size of a quarter in it, and a disc in my neck bulging out about a half an inch
They want to do surgery on all 3.
I said no.
I just know from visiting people in the hospital how germ infested it is. Many people over the age of 70 go in there?
They never come out. A mask in that situation is not that much of a hindrance.
Honestly I have been to the hospital once in my life for getting my tonsils taken out. I have been to a doctors office maybe a grand total of 5 times in my life. I have been to an orthopedist once.
I walked into a hospital admissions office here in S Cal a few years ago to get a shoulder x ray. Saw the people there. Walked right out.
I am over 45 years old.
I avoid doctors and hospitals if at all possible. The only reason I went to the doctors was when I had pneumonia in my 20s, and the only reason I went to the ortho was to get an MRI on my shoulder, neck, and elbow. Turns out I have a right shoulder completely shot, a right elbow with a chip the size of a quarter in it, and a disc in my neck bulging out about a half an inch
They want to do surgery on all 3.
I said no.
I just know from visiting people in the hospital how germ infested it is. Many people over the age of 70 go in there?
They never come out. A mask in that situation is not that much of a hindrance.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Depends on the facility.Give me a break, everybsingle time I had to babysit a prisoner at the hospital, it was like a ghost town. In fact, the doctor would usually clear them within an hr, because he had that much free time on his hands.
Also, if it was so crazy, why were nurses being furloughed? How did the ones that remained have the time to make dancing tik tok videos?
Also, if it was so crazy, why were nurses being furloughed? How did the ones that remained have the time to make dancing tik tok videos?
Walk-in clinics and General Acute Care hospitals (which is most likely where you were stationed) did not have covid patients because they didnt have the capacity, staff or resources (ventilators) to take care of them thats why the staff had time to goof off making "tik toks" Any covid patient they received were immediately transferred.
On the other hand, if you were where I was working (Trauma Center) it was a chit-show. Luckily those furloughed nurses were eager to work and they helped out in the larger hospitals.
Regardless, it was mismanaged so badly I left the hospital setting. I work in biotech now (ironically auditing the manufacturing process of the Pfizer covid vaccine).
09-29-2023, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Democrats strongly support new COVID-19 mask mandates, poll shows
https://katu.com/news/nation-world/d...ckdown-mandate
As some Americans are growing concerned with an increase in COVID-19 cases this fall, a new study shows that this fear may fall along party lines.
A whopping 76% of Democrats say they support a mask mandate, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports. Only a third of Republicans and 45% of unaffiliated respondents agreed.
https://katu.com/news/nation-world/d...ckdown-mandate
As some Americans are growing concerned with an increase in COVID-19 cases this fall, a new study shows that this fear may fall along party lines.
A whopping 76% of Democrats say they support a mask mandate, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports. Only a third of Republicans and 45% of unaffiliated respondents agreed.

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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The reality that the masks do little to nothing hasn't been made clear to Democrats apparently. Sure people in the middle and on the right share the facts, but they don't get read by Democrats. It would be refreshing if Dems were made aware that the average American has already been infected 3 times already and since Omicron most of the infections are completely asymptomatic. Not so scary when those realities are known, but don't expect the Pfizer sponsored mass media to report it.Democrats strongly support new COVID-19 mask mandates, poll shows
https://katu.com/news/nation-world/d...ckdown-mandate
As some Americans are growing concerned with an increase in COVID-19 cases this fall, a new study shows that this fear may fall along party lines.
A whopping 76% of Democrats say they support a mask mandate, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports. Only a third of Republicans and 45% of unaffiliated respondents agreed.
https://katu.com/news/nation-world/d...ckdown-mandate
As some Americans are growing concerned with an increase in COVID-19 cases this fall, a new study shows that this fear may fall along party lines.
A whopping 76% of Democrats say they support a mask mandate, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports. Only a third of Republicans and 45% of unaffiliated respondents agreed.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Errrrr Mah Gawd, another weak variant, everyone panic!!!!
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
During the winter months when its flu (and now covid ) season, yeah. It should have been in place for healthcare facilities decades ago, We were already headed in that direction, but the pandemic hastened the protocol.So everyone at a hospital needs to mask up? You get a bed, mask up? Get appendix surgery, wake up, put on a mask? Wear one while sleeping in a hospital bed?
There are people in the hospital that are immune compromised, old as hell, super young and highly susceptible, On immune suppression drugs (because they've had an organ transplant) and your angry that you can't walk in off the street and put their lives in danger? Nosocomial infections (a hospital acquired illness) kills more patients than the illnesses they come in for.
Even if a mask isn't a 100% preventative measure its better than nothing at all.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Right, I'm sure your hospitals were different than Hospitals like St Benard, or Holy Cross, or UIC......Depends on the facility.
Walk-in clinics and General Acute Care hospitals (which is most likely where you were stationed) did not have covid patients because they didnt have the capacity, staff or resources (ventilators) to take care of them thats why the staff had time to goof off making "tik toks" Any covid patient they received were immediately transferred.
On the other hand, if you were where I was working (Trauma Center) it was a chit-show. Luckily those furloughed nurses were eager to work and they helped out in the larger hospitals.
Regardless, it was mismanaged so badly I left the hospital setting. I work in biotech now (ironically auditing the manufacturing process of the Pfizer covid vaccine).
Walk-in clinics and General Acute Care hospitals (which is most likely where you were stationed) did not have covid patients because they didnt have the capacity, staff or resources (ventilators) to take care of them thats why the staff had time to goof off making "tik toks" Any covid patient they received were immediately transferred.
On the other hand, if you were where I was working (Trauma Center) it was a chit-show. Luckily those furloughed nurses were eager to work and they helped out in the larger hospitals.
Regardless, it was mismanaged so badly I left the hospital setting. I work in biotech now (ironically auditing the manufacturing process of the Pfizer covid vaccine).
But once again, "You" believed COVID was worse than the Spanish Flu.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
While we're at it, why not seal their room? Prohibit visitors from entering the room. Only one patient per room. Have the nurse wear a PPE kit....During the winter months when its flu (and now covid ) season, yeah. It should have been in place for healthcare facilities decades ago, We were already headed in that direction, but the pandemic hastened the protocol.
There are people in the hospital that are immune compromised, old as hell, super young and highly susceptible, On immune suppression drugs (because they've had an organ transplant) and your angry that you can't walk in off the street and put their lives in danger? Nosocomial infections (a hospital acquired illness) kills more patients than the illnesses they come in for.
Even if a mask isn't a 100% preventative measure its better than nothing at all.
There are people in the hospital that are immune compromised, old as hell, super young and highly susceptible, On immune suppression drugs (because they've had an organ transplant) and your angry that you can't walk in off the street and put their lives in danger? Nosocomial infections (a hospital acquired illness) kills more patients than the illnesses they come in for.
Even if a mask isn't a 100% preventative measure its better than nothing at all.
**** it, let's apply that same logic towards rehab centers as well.....
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Like outdoors or while driving? Be honest, if you had it your way, you would bring the mask mandates back for this fall/winter to combat the dreaded "tripledemic."Yeah, they dont work as intended because people don't wear them as intended.
09-29-2023, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Some folks need to believe there's nothing to do and nothing that can be doneThe reality that the masks do little to nothing hasn't been made clear to Democrats apparently. Sure people in the middle and on the right share the facts, but they don't get read by Democrats. It would be refreshing if Dems were made aware that the average American has already been infected 3 times already and since Omicron most of the infections are completely asymptomatic. Not so scary when those realities are known, but don't expect the Pfizer sponsored mass media to report it.

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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I was jumping back and forth between Los Angeles General Medical Center and Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego so they are of comparable size.Right, I'm sure your hospitals were different than Hospitals like St Benard, or Holy Cross, or UIC......
But once again, "You" believed COVID was worse than the Spanish Flu.
But once again, "You" believed COVID was worse than the Spanish Flu.
I vaguely remember saying that. I may have said it before the vaccines were rolled out. Whether or not you believe the vaccines work, they still helped mitigate an event mimicking the Spanish flu. We can actually thank trump for that👍🏾
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
And then there's people like you, who want everyone to mask back up, and get the latest booster shot, plus flu shot, plus RSV shot.....Some folks need to believe there's nothing to do and nothing that can be done

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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
How are you going to compare the Spanish Flu to COVID? Pick up a history book, look at the number of deaths and the world's population at that time.I was jumping back and forth between Los Angeles General Medical Center and Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego so they are of comparable size.
I vaguely remember saying that. I may have said it before the vaccines were rolled out. Whether or not you believe the vaccines work, they still helped mitigate an event mimicking the Spanish flu. We can actually thank trump for that👍🏾
I vaguely remember saying that. I may have said it before the vaccines were rolled out. Whether or not you believe the vaccines work, they still helped mitigate an event mimicking the Spanish flu. We can actually thank trump for that👍🏾
You just can't admit you were wrong, none of you can.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
no, because enough people are vaccinated that it won't become a pandemic to the level is did in 2020.Like outdoors or while driving? Be honest, if you had it your way, you would bring the mask mandates back for this fall/winter to combat the dreaded "tripledemic."
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