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Thread: **OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION

post 1692506983 10-29-2023, 12:15 PM
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what is going on? All my accounts are down, almost to where I started 4 years ago, this suck ass
post 1692558143 10-30-2023, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By CanardMedic⏩
what is going on? All my accounts are down, almost to where I started 4 years ago, this suck ass
Biden's America happened.

Some people in this thread voted for this
post 1692562273 10-30-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Another pump and same day fade on sofi. Terrible
Literally the biggest rip your dik off rally and sofi managed to be negative on a triple beat. Wish I sold $8 CCs instead of $9. 7.5p still ITM fukking lol

Their biggest problem though is all the retail gambling they’d post a 15-20% gain today. Institutions gladly sold them calls at a crazy prices and are capable of just keeping it in check to burn options/theta. It’ll be fine in the coming months but they desperately need to post profits otherwise they’ll get sold back down to the $4-5 range.
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post 1692576083 10-30-2023, 05:31 PM
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i Noticed Dow Jones, Nasdaq and spy on the Daily all have Bullish Divergence potential here, u can see the MACD momentum is coming up while the price is making lower lows, Stochastic RSI is also in the Over sold territory, it gotta be bottoming out here

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post 1692588013 10-30-2023, 10:21 PM
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Is it over for dividend-cels like me? O, MO all going to chit
post 1692588383 10-30-2023, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Bingo559⏩
Is it over for dividend-cels like me? O, MO all going to chit
Feels like 2020 with this double digit dividends! MO looks good buy to me
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post 1692606483 10-31-2023, 11:03 AM
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Fnma with another $5B quarter. Just stacking profits so they can be released. Wheels of justice turn slowly!
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post 1692616193 10-31-2023, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Bingo559⏩
Is it over for dividend-cels like me? O, MO all going to chit
Y'all gotta stop yield chasing and start buying stonks that are performing well and have room to grow their dividend. You don't get the yield now, but over time, your yield on investment becomes super high as you accumulate shares and your dividends grow. One of my O&G positions, for example, is now giving me 5% a year (and growing) and I am up pretty big on it from a cap gains perspective. The last decade of ZIRP has made people forget that stocks are fractional ownership in business - not speculative tools. Start buying good businesses and you'll get paid in due time.
post 1692617633 10-31-2023, 02:42 PM
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Imagine investing in anything other than PLTR
JFL at dividendcels collecting their measly 2.13%
post 1692617893 10-31-2023, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Elias373⏩
Imagine investing in anything other than PLTR
JFL at dividendcels collecting their measly 2.13%
What if the dividend was 100% hmm?
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post 1692628703 10-31-2023, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Elias373⏩
Imagine investing in anything other than PLTR
JFL at dividendcels collecting their measly 2.13%
Lol.

They are better than bonds for cash laying around, they are better than PLTR and I can get much better than 2% lol.

What are you going to buy? PLTR? Gold? BTC? are you going to try to collect on a small run in the SPX or PLTR at the risk of doomtime? How much upside do you think you have?
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post 1692659033 11-01-2023, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
Y'all gotta stop yield chasing and start buying stonks that are performing well and have room to grow their dividend. You don't get the yield now, but over time, your yield on investment becomes super high as you accumulate shares and your dividends grow. One of my O&G positions, for example, is now giving me 5% a year (and growing) and I am up pretty big on it from a cap gains perspective. The last decade of ZIRP has made people forget that stocks are fractional ownership in business - not speculative tools. Start buying good businesses and you'll get paid in due time.
Spot on. Dividends are great, but they shouldn’t be the goal if you’re far from retirement.
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post 1692665603 11-01-2023, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Anyone bearish on PLTR for tomorrow? I have puts already and am starting to think that it's recent price movement downwards will be difficult for it to break $17 tomorrow, as that's a 25% move or so. Thinking to sell calls.
Must be at troll post surely
post 1692665753 11-01-2023, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Lol.

They are better than bonds for cash laying around, they are better than PLTR and I can get much better than 2% lol.

What are you going to buy? PLTR? Gold? BTC? are you going to try to collect on a small run in the SPX or PLTR at the risk of doomtime? How much upside do you think you have?
Are they f*ck..
I can get government bonds/T-bills paying 5% tax free with no risk to capital. Any cash sits in there until buying opportunities come along
Why would I buy some boomer stock that's paying 2% dividence but losing 10% capital each year.. just lol
post 1692667673 11-01-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Didn't they lower their guidance last quarter
My sources tell me it's gonna be a blowout
post 1692671823 11-01-2023, 03:22 PM
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So basically the FED spoke and pretty much made it clear our Purchasing power is going to continue to drop.. so its time to send it lads. Insane rally coming, they are going to have to print so much money, sweet mother of pearl.
post 1692675063 11-01-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Elias373⏩
My sources tell me it's gonna be a blowout
who are your sources?
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post 1692676663 11-01-2023, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Oceanofthc⏩
So basically the FED spoke and pretty much made it clear our Purchasing power is going to continue to drop.. so its time to send it lads. Insane rally coming, they are going to have to print so much money, sweet mother of pearl.
This this and more this. How are they struggling so hard to understand historical trends that we are following almost to a T. Surely I am missing their primary directive right? I’m going to have to switch up my current mix.
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post 1692677893 11-01-2023, 05:49 PM
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The reason market moved today was not because of Jerome FOMC.

It has been known for months now that Fed is done hiking.


Driver of today move was the fact Treasury will calm down on 10 and 30 year bond auctions. Which directly caused yields to take dive from highs.

Its explained here in article below.

https://archive.ph/fbIoN

This should help stocks/tlt etc. How long I dunno but if there was rally into year end this would be the best chance it has.


You're looking for SP to reach now 4350 before end of Nov than do pull back and than one more pump to year end.
post 1692681083 11-01-2023, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
The reason market moved today was not because of Jerome FOMC.

It has been known for months now that Fed is done hiking.


Driver of today move was the fact Treasury will calm down on 10 and 30 year bond auctions. Which directly caused yields to take dive from highs.

Its explained here in article below.

https://archive.ph/fbIoN

This should help stocks/tlt etc. How long I dunno but if there was rally into year end this would be the best chance it has.


You're looking for SP to reach now 4350 before end of Nov than do pull back and than one more pump to year end.
Lol.

It was known for months huh?

Well when did you predict the fed terminal rate? Last week? Lol.
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post 1692686673 11-01-2023, 09:19 PM
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As of today I’ve acquired $500k face value in fnma preferred shares. Someone pls tell me to seek help lmao
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post 1692686813 11-01-2023, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
As of today I’ve acquired $500k face value in fnma preferred shares. Someone pls tell me to seek help lmao
Haven't looked that deep into it but this is one of your plays I may cosign on, I haven't looked into because I don't believe it is ready but I do think it can be, rooting for you on this one and I may join.
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post 1692688353 11-01-2023, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Haven't looked that deep into it but this is one of your plays I may cosign on, I haven't looked into because I don't believe it is ready but I do think it can be, rooting for you on this one and I may join.
I stacked a decent amount of $50/share FNMAK/fregp since the lawsuit was won that the government doing the net worth sweep harmed investors and wasn’t in good faith. I bought a fukton of Fnmas/fnmat at all time lows this summer. Face value is around 17x my purchase price(in total) so take that for what it’s worth.

Lots of progress getting made on all fronts for the GSE to be released. Capital rule is due before end of 2023 determining how much capital both need before going back public. Currently the figure is $300B which many realize is outrageous and unnecessary. The general assumption is that is scaled back somewhat.

There is also a bill in the house hr 5549 “end of GSE Conseratorship preparation act of 2023” which will force yellen to submit to congress completed proposals to terminate the conservatorship.

Lawsuit also won interest on their damages spanning 10 years so that will significantly boost the payout for Fmcc common/preferred and fnma preferred holders. Just waiting for the trial to be certified which then means it can be used in future trials.

I have no idea when it will actually pop off but didn’t want to miss the chance when I saw it. This could potentially need another 3-4 years but again I don’t know when news will drop that the government is taking steps to return the companies to public markets. Once the news hits I’m guessing it’ll shoot preferred prices to the moon and commons will probably gain too. Commons I figured were riskier with a slightly higher chance they could still get wiped out… but they’ve been trading for 15 years so can they really just cancel the shares after all this time? Who knows. I’ve got a fair amount of those as well.
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post 1692703803 11-02-2023, 08:41 AM
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Mirin my lemonade stock this morning
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Originally Posted By Elias373⏩
My sources tell me it's gonna be a blowout
This guy knows his stuff
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Originally Posted By Elias373⏩
This guy knows his stuff
pltr stocks are up 20%
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Take a shot every time someone refers to 3Q23 earnings details as “colour”
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My tech stocks are RIPPING.

Mirin.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
My tech stocks are RIPPING.

Mirin.
Lol everything ripping. Fed announced inflation is here to stay!
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Long treasury yields have come in HARD sweet jesus
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