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12-09-2023, 09:03 AM
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Ah, must of hit a nerve with this square lol.No chit, druggie. But someone needs to be elected. Get yourself into rehab.
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He can't, establishment will block him, fake polls, rig primaries etc. (and this is all assuming Trump didn't exist - as he will win at this point unless he's forcibly removed). Trump only made it through because they thought it was a big joke until it's too late. And only continues to have a chance because he did a good job when he seized the opportunity.
Vivek's only chance in the future is for Trump to bring him in and everything goes well enough for him to use it as a launching pad for next election.
Vivek's only chance in the future is for Trump to bring him in and everything goes well enough for him to use it as a launching pad for next election.
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Originally Posted By John
They both support the Bush doctrine of, any willing(foreign) worker(unlimited numbers) except AFAIK only Haley openly supports amnesty...for those that came before Biden lol How much of a ratard does have to be to actually believe that..This. He’s been spouting out some based immigration views lately, but I have a tough time trusting him given his very recent po-immigration views.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Who gives a fuk what Jefferson thinks about finical policy topics?Nothing wrong with his views, cuck.
Jefferson had the same beliefs on taxes.
Dumb little Trumpling.
Jefferson had the same beliefs on taxes.
Dumb little Trumpling.
He was a personal financial mess, that always spent wayyy more money than he had maintaining his opulent elitist lifestyle - Almost always maintained a negative net worth with tons of debt.
His original angst about estate inheritance stimmed from inheriting all his father in laws debt - as well as his friends debt.
When you dig into the details of his inheritance tax rules mentality - it has much to do also with absolving debt.
Dude even hypocritically wrote a book about managing your finances lol.
Nah- I'll take his thoughts with a grain of salt.
Just because these "founding fathers" dudes happen to be born in a segmented set of decades doesn't mean they are intellectual yoda's
https://www.forbes.com/sites/megango...ng-father/amp/
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It is amazing that Jefferson, a fiscal conservative in public office, as seen in the above quotes, could be so indebted in his personal life. Perhaps this was the reason for his governmental policies. Jefferson abhorred debt, but was indebted throughout most of his life. He railed against expensive government, yet overspent his own fortune while in various public offices and to maintain an extravagant lifestyle.
Jefferson could not live without the finer things in life. He was constantly purchasing: sculptures, paintings, furniture, musical instruments, fine clothing and books. He was able to do this by buying on credit, hoping to pay for it in the future with revenue from his law practice, government positions and his plantations. But, he sank deeper and deeper into debt.
Jefferson was very aware of his fiscal dilemma. Throughout his life, he was obsessive in maintaining his account books. Every penny earned and spent was fastidiously recorded. It was almost as if he felt that if he wrote down his financial transactions, that had them under control.But, Jefferson was so out of touch to the reality concerning his own finances that he once ran up a $10,000 wine bill for one year. The result of this delusion was that at his death, in today's money, the debt was between one and two million dollars.
There were factors other than Jefferson's extravagant lifestyle which contributed to his indebtedness. Many of these, such as governmental policies, financial panics, war, the Southern financial system of the day and inherited debt were beyond his control.
Jefferson's economy depended on agriculture. Like many Virginia gentry, he was rich in land and slaves, but lacked hard cash. He lived on credit; the land, slaves and future crops used as a guarantee for payment to English and Dutch lenders. A frugal individual could weather a bad crop or a financial panic under such a system, but not Jefferson. The result was that his personal property, land, slaves, and mansions became further and further encumbered. Under this system, when debt and the interest on it reached a certain point, creditors would foreclose. But, lending houses kept extending Jefferson credit, with compounding interest rates, due of his fame and reputation, allowing him to spend until his death.Because of the laws of the day, he could not declare bankruptcy and this debt was passed on to his heirs. . Jefferson was well aware of these policies in English Common Law, since he was a lawyer, and because of personal experience. His first large debt came as a result of his marriage, in 1772, to Martha Wayles Skelton. In 1774, his father-in-law, John Wayles died. Martha's share of the estate passed to Jefferson, as per the law of the day. This included 11,000 acres, 135 slaves, and an enormous debt.(Jefferson, who had publicly opposed slavery was now one of the largest slave holders in the Virginia Colony. The Hemmings family were among his new charges, which included Sally Hemmings, Martha's half-sister.)
Jefferson attempted to relieve himself of this debt by selling off the land for 4,200 pounds. He was paid in promissory notes for the purchase price. The notes were redeemed during the Revolutionary War with inflated, Virginia wartime currency. He stated: “I did not receive the money till it was not worth oak leaves”. Wayles' British creditors would not accept the Virginia script, since the Treaty of Paris allowed them to demand gold or sterling for payment. He would pay on this inherited burden for most of his life.
The Treaty did not deal with American losses during the War. He bemoaned that: “General Cornwallis's army took off thirty of my slaves, burnt one year's crop of tobacco in my barns and destroyed another in fields with other damages to the amount of 3,000 or 4,000 pounds”.
While Jefferson was attempting to deal with the Wayles' debt, he was also building his mansion, Monticello. This was a never ending, expensive process. Jefferson was constantly remodeling the building. He stated that: “Architecture is my delight, and putting up and tearing down is one of my favorite amusements”. The result of his “delight and amusement” was one of the most beautiful neoclassical structures in the United States, but, one that drove him further into debt.
Jefferson filled his twenty-room mansion with artwork, fossils, scientific equipment, 7,000 books, Indian relics and musical instruments. Much of the furnishings were from a buying spree while he was the American Minister to France. His purchases, which took 86 crates to ship back to Monticello, included: furniture, 63 paintings, seven busts sculpted by Houdon, glassware, silverware, china, wall paper, mirrors, wine and other sundry housewares.
Jefferson steadily lost money while serving in the various governmental posts that he held during his forty years of public service. Jefferson confided to a friend that he had not added one penny to his fortune for all his years of service, that his “hands as clean as they are empty.” He made up the shortfall, from expenses incurred serving his country from his own pocket. To impress the French, during his time in Paris, as the American Minister, he rented an mansion located on the Champs-Elysee. It had several salons, three private suites, stable, garden and a full staff of servants. Jefferson became an A-list member of Parisian society, hosting lavish dinner parties. The cost of this lifestyle far exceeded his annual salary of $9,000.
During Jefferson's two terms as president, his annual compensation was $25,000. At that time, there were no provisions for the president's residential expenses. Jefferson had to pay for the White House staff, his travel, food, his own secretary and official White House entertainment. Like his predecessors, Jefferson maintained the tradition of entertaining dignitaries in style. Only the finest foods, prepared by his personal French chef, and wines were served. His thrice-weekly small dinner parties, for Congressional leaders, became the most sought after invitation in Washington. The dinners were elegant with eight different kinds of French wine. But, stocking the kitchen and wine cellar came at a price of $50 a day that he paid from his salary. When he left office, White House expenses added to his debt by $10,000. (Some sources quote a figure of up to $30,000.)
At his retirement, in 1809, Jefferson faced the daunting tasks of maintaining his lifestyle, his estates and paying his debt. Since there was no government pensions, at that time, this had to be accomplished with assets he already owned: his plantations and his slaves. He possessed 10,000 acres and about two hundred slaves. Only a third of this population could be called field hands; over a third were under the age of ten or retired, the rest being tradesmen or house servants. Jefferson, in his account books, had overvalued the worth of his assets and his plans for the future were somewhat delusional. He expected to earn $2,500 a year from his estates, a goal he seldom met. Plus, land prices became depressed soon after his retirement. Jefferson had few options: make his holdings more productive, sell land, sell slaves, or alter his lifestyle.
He tried various ways to improve the production of his crops, with limited success, usually because of bad weather. He established a nailery and a cloth spinning operation at Monticello to gain extra income. These ventures were manned by slaves too young to work in the field. And, he attempted to make two mills on his property moneymakers. These last two ventures were disasters and added to his debt. He could not sell the majority of his land or slaves because they were the collateral for his debt. That left the option of changing his lifestyle.
In Jefferson's personal life, his debt seem to have no effect on his indulgent habits. He continued his eternal, expensive remodeling of Monticello. His adult children, his grandchildren, his sisters and their children live with him permanently or for extended periods of time. He was responsible monetarily for their welfare. Added to this, other family and friends visited for weeks. And, it was not unusual for strangers wanting to meet Jefferson, to arrive at Monticello unannounced. Jefferson, not turning a soul away, found himself entertaining as many as fifty family and guests at a time.
Cont on linkJefferson could not live without the finer things in life. He was constantly purchasing: sculptures, paintings, furniture, musical instruments, fine clothing and books. He was able to do this by buying on credit, hoping to pay for it in the future with revenue from his law practice, government positions and his plantations. But, he sank deeper and deeper into debt.
Jefferson was very aware of his fiscal dilemma. Throughout his life, he was obsessive in maintaining his account books. Every penny earned and spent was fastidiously recorded. It was almost as if he felt that if he wrote down his financial transactions, that had them under control.But, Jefferson was so out of touch to the reality concerning his own finances that he once ran up a $10,000 wine bill for one year. The result of this delusion was that at his death, in today's money, the debt was between one and two million dollars.
There were factors other than Jefferson's extravagant lifestyle which contributed to his indebtedness. Many of these, such as governmental policies, financial panics, war, the Southern financial system of the day and inherited debt were beyond his control.
Jefferson's economy depended on agriculture. Like many Virginia gentry, he was rich in land and slaves, but lacked hard cash. He lived on credit; the land, slaves and future crops used as a guarantee for payment to English and Dutch lenders. A frugal individual could weather a bad crop or a financial panic under such a system, but not Jefferson. The result was that his personal property, land, slaves, and mansions became further and further encumbered. Under this system, when debt and the interest on it reached a certain point, creditors would foreclose. But, lending houses kept extending Jefferson credit, with compounding interest rates, due of his fame and reputation, allowing him to spend until his death.Because of the laws of the day, he could not declare bankruptcy and this debt was passed on to his heirs. . Jefferson was well aware of these policies in English Common Law, since he was a lawyer, and because of personal experience. His first large debt came as a result of his marriage, in 1772, to Martha Wayles Skelton. In 1774, his father-in-law, John Wayles died. Martha's share of the estate passed to Jefferson, as per the law of the day. This included 11,000 acres, 135 slaves, and an enormous debt.(Jefferson, who had publicly opposed slavery was now one of the largest slave holders in the Virginia Colony. The Hemmings family were among his new charges, which included Sally Hemmings, Martha's half-sister.)
Jefferson attempted to relieve himself of this debt by selling off the land for 4,200 pounds. He was paid in promissory notes for the purchase price. The notes were redeemed during the Revolutionary War with inflated, Virginia wartime currency. He stated: “I did not receive the money till it was not worth oak leaves”. Wayles' British creditors would not accept the Virginia script, since the Treaty of Paris allowed them to demand gold or sterling for payment. He would pay on this inherited burden for most of his life.
The Treaty did not deal with American losses during the War. He bemoaned that: “General Cornwallis's army took off thirty of my slaves, burnt one year's crop of tobacco in my barns and destroyed another in fields with other damages to the amount of 3,000 or 4,000 pounds”.
While Jefferson was attempting to deal with the Wayles' debt, he was also building his mansion, Monticello. This was a never ending, expensive process. Jefferson was constantly remodeling the building. He stated that: “Architecture is my delight, and putting up and tearing down is one of my favorite amusements”. The result of his “delight and amusement” was one of the most beautiful neoclassical structures in the United States, but, one that drove him further into debt.
Jefferson filled his twenty-room mansion with artwork, fossils, scientific equipment, 7,000 books, Indian relics and musical instruments. Much of the furnishings were from a buying spree while he was the American Minister to France. His purchases, which took 86 crates to ship back to Monticello, included: furniture, 63 paintings, seven busts sculpted by Houdon, glassware, silverware, china, wall paper, mirrors, wine and other sundry housewares.
Jefferson steadily lost money while serving in the various governmental posts that he held during his forty years of public service. Jefferson confided to a friend that he had not added one penny to his fortune for all his years of service, that his “hands as clean as they are empty.” He made up the shortfall, from expenses incurred serving his country from his own pocket. To impress the French, during his time in Paris, as the American Minister, he rented an mansion located on the Champs-Elysee. It had several salons, three private suites, stable, garden and a full staff of servants. Jefferson became an A-list member of Parisian society, hosting lavish dinner parties. The cost of this lifestyle far exceeded his annual salary of $9,000.
During Jefferson's two terms as president, his annual compensation was $25,000. At that time, there were no provisions for the president's residential expenses. Jefferson had to pay for the White House staff, his travel, food, his own secretary and official White House entertainment. Like his predecessors, Jefferson maintained the tradition of entertaining dignitaries in style. Only the finest foods, prepared by his personal French chef, and wines were served. His thrice-weekly small dinner parties, for Congressional leaders, became the most sought after invitation in Washington. The dinners were elegant with eight different kinds of French wine. But, stocking the kitchen and wine cellar came at a price of $50 a day that he paid from his salary. When he left office, White House expenses added to his debt by $10,000. (Some sources quote a figure of up to $30,000.)
At his retirement, in 1809, Jefferson faced the daunting tasks of maintaining his lifestyle, his estates and paying his debt. Since there was no government pensions, at that time, this had to be accomplished with assets he already owned: his plantations and his slaves. He possessed 10,000 acres and about two hundred slaves. Only a third of this population could be called field hands; over a third were under the age of ten or retired, the rest being tradesmen or house servants. Jefferson, in his account books, had overvalued the worth of his assets and his plans for the future were somewhat delusional. He expected to earn $2,500 a year from his estates, a goal he seldom met. Plus, land prices became depressed soon after his retirement. Jefferson had few options: make his holdings more productive, sell land, sell slaves, or alter his lifestyle.
He tried various ways to improve the production of his crops, with limited success, usually because of bad weather. He established a nailery and a cloth spinning operation at Monticello to gain extra income. These ventures were manned by slaves too young to work in the field. And, he attempted to make two mills on his property moneymakers. These last two ventures were disasters and added to his debt. He could not sell the majority of his land or slaves because they were the collateral for his debt. That left the option of changing his lifestyle.
In Jefferson's personal life, his debt seem to have no effect on his indulgent habits. He continued his eternal, expensive remodeling of Monticello. His adult children, his grandchildren, his sisters and their children live with him permanently or for extended periods of time. He was responsible monetarily for their welfare. Added to this, other family and friends visited for weeks. And, it was not unusual for strangers wanting to meet Jefferson, to arrive at Monticello unannounced. Jefferson, not turning a soul away, found himself entertaining as many as fifty family and guests at a time.
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It's funny these white trash is so threatened by the people smarter than them. Instead of coping maybe you need to learn to code and stop overvaluing yourself lmao.
Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Hes an anchor baby born in America to non citizens and shouldn't even be allowed to run. Im almost positive, to this day, his father has refused to become an American citizen.
He also wants to expand Legal Immigration, which ends American sovereignty and the constitution. Thats not even debatable.
He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
He also wants to expand Legal Immigration, which ends American sovereignty and the constitution. Thats not even debatable.
He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Originally Posted By John
This. He’s been spouting out some based immigration views lately, but I have a tough time trusting him given his very recent po-immigration views.
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12-09-2023, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
About time you start defending your people instead of suckling on a fat orange guys cawk all the time.It's funny these white trash is so threatened by the people smarter than them. Instead of coping maybe you need to learn to code and stop overvaluing yourself lmao.
Very refreshing.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
It's funny these white trash is so threatened by the people smarter than them. Instead of coping maybe you need to learn to code and stop overvaluing yourself lmao.
How does it feel to be the least sexually desired group of men? You could make $100k and still get no p**** lol
Phucking ****** What an absolute trash group of people. Feel entitled to a country they had nothing to do with building
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[QUOTE=ColdandChilly post_id=1694616933][IMG]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7CF7/production/_85319913_poop_protest.jpg[/MG]
How does it feel to be the least sexually desired group of men? You could make $100k and still get no p**** lol
Phucking pajeets. What an absolute trash group of people. Feel entitled to a country they had nothing to do with building[/QUOTE]
Phuckin lol @ the middle guy smirking hahahaha.
Brutal.
How does it feel to be the least sexually desired group of men? You could make $100k and still get no p**** lol
Phucking pajeets. What an absolute trash group of people. Feel entitled to a country they had nothing to do with building[/QUOTE]
Phuckin lol @ the middle guy smirking hahahaha.
Brutal.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
Patel plsIt's funny these white trash is so threatened by the people smarter than them. Instead of coping maybe you need to learn to code and stop overvaluing yourself lmao.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
*looks at user title*It's funny these white trash is so threatened by the people smarter than them. Instead of coping maybe you need to learn to code and stop overvaluing yourself lmao.
https://www.businessinsider.com/dona...er-2023-11?amp
Trump, who's railed against Black Lives Matter for years, now says he'd be 'very honored' to have its support
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Yikes another trash joins.. Seems like the shoe fits you too lol.How does it feel to be the least sexually desired group of men? You could make $100k and still get no p**** lol
Phucking ****** What an absolute trash group of people. Feel entitled to a country they had nothing to do with building
Phucking ****** What an absolute trash group of people. Feel entitled to a country they had nothing to do with building
Median household income of whites in America $75k
Meadin household income of Indians in America $142k
So I understand the saltiness hah!
Also here is a poop map of the streets of San Francisco.. None of them are Indians I guarantee..
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/ind...dafdb02a76d2a4
Based Alex Jones had some nice words for whites in Tuckers interview (and Tucker agreed) .. Finally someone has guts to tell you who is causing all this mess
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That's 45% of whites he's talking about.Most of the enforcers of this are white liberal women, and their cucked husbands.
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
Yep this entire discussion is pointless for this reason alone.True but there's repubs that are Trump only voters no matter how much better and more polished the other candidate is.
Even if Vivek is the better choice, it has to be trump if you want someone with conservative ideologies back in office. If Trump were somehow incapacitated or taken off the ballot for whatever reason, I guarantee people simply wouldn't vote and we'd have another 4 years of biden.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
What's the average income of Indians in India vs Americans lol?Yikes another trash joins.. Seems like the shoe fits you too lol.
Median household income of whites in America $75k
Meadin household income of Indians in America $142k
So I understand the saltiness hah!
Also here is a poop map of the streets of San Francisco.. None of them are Indians I guarantee..
Median household income of whites in America $75k
Meadin household income of Indians in America $142k
So I understand the saltiness hah!
Also here is a poop map of the streets of San Francisco.. None of them are Indians I guarantee..
America was great long before any of your people were here. India not so much...
Most of the people chitting in the streets in San Franciso are not white. It's a very non white city.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/ind...dafdb02a76d2a4
Based Alex Jones had some nice words for whites in Tuckers interview (and Tucker agreed) .. Finally someone has guts to tell you who is causing all this mess
That's 45% of whites he's talking about.
Indians are the second biggest Democratic voting bloc after blacks lmaoBased Alex Jones had some nice words for whites in Tuckers interview (and Tucker agreed) .. Finally someone has guts to tell you who is causing all this mess
That's 45% of whites he's talking about.
Whites have plenty of issues but they're my people and I enjoy living around them. Your people are trash lol. I worked at a grocery store as a teenager. This Indian guy took this big tub of Greek yogurt then at the register said he didn't want it. I informed him we had to throw it away since it's been removed from the freezer if he didn't buy it. Piece of chit just said okay and we had to throw it away. Hated dealing with them.
I can tell you're am annoying piece of smelly chit just like most of your garbage people. Ugly ass women too
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Dear diary..What's the average income of Indians in India vs Americans lol?
America was great long before any of your people were here. India not so much...
Most of the people chitting in the streets in San Franciso are not white. It's a very non white city.
Indians are the second biggest Democratic voting bloc after blacks lmao
Whites have plenty of issues but they're my people and I enjoy living around them. Your people are trash lol. I worked at a grocery store as a teenager. This Indian guy took this big tub of Greek yogurt then at the register said he didn't want it. I informed him we had to throw it away since it's been removed from the freezer if he didn't buy it. Piece of chit just said okay and we had to throw it away. Hated dealing with them.
I can tell you're am annoying piece of smelly chit just like most of your garbage people. Ugly ass women too
America was great long before any of your people were here. India not so much...
Most of the people chitting in the streets in San Franciso are not white. It's a very non white city.
Indians are the second biggest Democratic voting bloc after blacks lmao
Whites have plenty of issues but they're my people and I enjoy living around them. Your people are trash lol. I worked at a grocery store as a teenager. This Indian guy took this big tub of Greek yogurt then at the register said he didn't want it. I informed him we had to throw it away since it's been removed from the freezer if he didn't buy it. Piece of chit just said okay and we had to throw it away. Hated dealing with them.
I can tell you're am annoying piece of smelly chit just like most of your garbage people. Ugly ass women too
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
This cringe ph@gg0t actually quotes Trump's tweets lolDear diary..
Ugliest women on the planet are Indian. Terrible aesthetics and nobody either. Women feel the same about you ****** lol
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
You seem to have an axe to grind against curries bro. You probably work for one.This cringe ph@gg0t actually quotes Trump's tweets lol
Ugliest women on the planet are Indian. Terrible aesthetician and nobody either. Women feel the same about you ****** lol
Ugliest women on the planet are Indian. Terrible aesthetician and nobody either. Women feel the same about you ****** lol
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
This is the modern equivalent of being in your 30's and thinking there is a tooth fairy.Lol @ you votecel cucks.
"No, Trump....."
"No, Vivek...."
Nobody is coming to save you guys. Especially your local politician.
"No, Trump....."
"No, Vivek...."
Nobody is coming to save you guys. Especially your local politician.
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Originally Posted By 1320it⏩
Believing in the American election system is that, yes. Try going against AIPAC.This is the modern equivalent of being in your 30's and thinking there is a tooth fairy.
12-09-2023, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
What should be done then?Believing in the American election system is that, yes. Try going against AIPAC.
Should people march on the Capitol to air their grievances with the current political system?
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Great question. Vladimir Lenin wrote an entire book answering that very question with that very title over 100 years ago. Most of it still holds.What should be done then?
Should people march on the Capitol to air their grievances with the current political system?
Should people march on the Capitol to air their grievances with the current political system?
12-09-2023, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
No thanks Wincel. That guys system was utter trash lolGreat question. Vladimir Lenin wrote an entire book answering that very question with that very title over 100 years ago. Most of it still holds.
12-09-2023, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
When things get bad, people used to revolt. America was born out of revolution. People would revolt over something as simple as a tax.What should be done then?
Should people march on the Capitol to air their grievances with the current political system?
Should people march on the Capitol to air their grievances with the current political system?
We can reference that cringe quote of Jefferson's about blood and the tree of liberty. Whatever. The sad reality is the only thing that has the ability to change bad circumstance is violence.
The entire contemporary domestic political structure is to ensure this doesn't take place anymore, even with all the variables are present. It is also to ensure that wealth is protected for the minuscule percent who own everything.
The entire system is locked down and controlled. The food you eat, the p0rn you watch, your job, the entertainment you consume, the laws you obey ....
All of this is the infrastructure to ensure you behave as a slave to the system that maximizes some wealthy oligarchs life.
There are almost two generations of people who are not real members of society, based on central banking and social engineering. They aren't property owners. They don't have families.
It's amazing to me how this thing keeps grinding forward as it does. The people who are pulling the strings are absolute geniuses. They have been able to manipulate inflation good enough to fool people that things are still ok, give them surrogates for love and intimacy to keep them in check, and just the right entertainment to keep them distracted from the meaningless and hopelessness of this void they live in.
Why would anyone even begin to think that the capital that controls politicians is going to save the day for them. It only should reinforce the opposite conclusion.
I remember when Covid was in its infancy, and who did Drumpf go running to, begging to fix the problems? The mega banks lmao.
That is your so called wealthy outsider who supposedly is going to fix the system for the average slave.
Rightttttt.
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
India hates China so that would be an excellent moveImagine Indian leading Microsoft, Google, and the US. India will be our closest ally. At least maybe US will be tougher on China
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
If the elections were 100% controlled the dissenters would have already been put in camps.Believing in the American election system is that, yes. Try going against AIPAC.
Thats also why the need another plandemic or war or “domestic terror attacks” to mess with elections again.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
People revolted? America was born out of revaluation? You sure it wasn't the same then, and America was born out of elitist greed?When things get bad, people used to revolt.America was born out of revolution. People would revolt over something as simple as a tax.
We can reference that cringe quote of Jefferson's about blood and the tree of liberty. Whatever. The sad reality is the only thing that has the ability to change bad circumstance is violence.
The entire contemporary domestic political structure is to ensure this doesn't take place anymore, even with all the variables are present. It is also to ensure that wealth is protected for the minuscule percent who own everything.
We can reference that cringe quote of Jefferson's about blood and the tree of liberty. Whatever. The sad reality is the only thing that has the ability to change bad circumstance is violence.
The entire contemporary domestic political structure is to ensure this doesn't take place anymore, even with all the variables are present. It is also to ensure that wealth is protected for the minuscule percent who own everything.
These "founding fathers" -one of the most hypocritical group at that - making and signing a document that talked about rights, equality, and freedom while maintaining slavery.(and let's not leave out indentured servitude- which was arguably worse)
So these rich elitist developing the colonies to further their wealth are protected by the crown defending them against the French in the north (at a very high cost) and preventing the Dutch and Spanish from having an easy avenue of a rake over attack...
Then when they were asked to just pay a small portion in taxes to cover the cost of security so they could further develop the colonies- they didn’t want to pay their “fair share”
They took advantage of the crown by receiving the care security and developing and expanding their own wealth while not wanting to pay their “fair share”
So they gave oath and allegiance to the crown, only to lie and avoid paying a bill that was only a portion of what it took to secure them, so they can develop their wealth, using slave labor at that, with little to no cost on their part.
Then these rich elitist duped poverty stricken or uneducated locals into fighting a war so they could horde their wealth and not pay for the cost to create it- thus causing countless casualties and hardships.
Then they authored one of the most hypocritical documents in human history(probably laughing the whole time)
Let's inventory some of these "founding fathers" revolutionist.
7 principle founding fathers
-John Adams: never fought in the war, but did defend the Boston massacre British soldiers (got 6 acquitted)
-Thomas Jefferson: never fought in war, unless you count the time he flees from his mansion when it got attacked lol. He did get a 14yr old pregnant though
-Benjamin Franklin: never fought in combat in the revolutionary war
-John Jay: never fought
-James Madison: did not fight in the revolutionary war
Who actually did fight? Who legit put their life on the line
Central bank loving Alexander Hamilton - he new the importance of a national bank...
And the grand puppet these guys controlled, George Washington.
Others:
-John Hancock: one of the wealthiest, but never fought
-Richard Henry Lee: never fought
-Samual Adams: never fought in the war
-Gouverneur Morris: no combat in the revaluation
-Robert Morris: no combat
-Patrick Henry: no combat
-George Mason: no combat
-Peyton Randolph: no combat
-Roger Sherman: no combat
There group of elites were just scheming to gain their wealth.
You know what's funny about Jefferson? He legit thought there was a chance duping the people into war could erase is debt if they won, and went to a new country - so he added some more statues and art to his mansion with debt thinking he wouldn't have to pay.
12-10-2023, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
$142k income for an average Indian household in US? Somehow I really doubt your figures are accurate.Median household income of whites in America $75k
Meadin household income of Indians in America $142k
Meadin household income of Indians in America $142k
Perhaps for some born in US with a good education and a job. But the majority of Indians you see look like they are fresh off the boat. Low skilled and uneducated.
Unless there’s 10 of them in one house..
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Totally false lol. England was not just asking the US to pay for their own security. England was racking up large debt fighting wars with France in Europe and they were squeezing the US to help pay for it. All kinds of new taxes and increased taxes to help pay for their European wars. Come on, that is basic stuff. You're going to always try to come here and play the intellectual and not even know the basics.People revolted? America was born out of revaluation? You sure it wasn't the same then, and America was born out of elitist greed?
These "founding fathers" -one of the most hypocritical group at that - making and signing a document that talked about rights, equality, and freedom while maintaining slavery.(and let's not leave out indentured servitude- which was arguably worse)
So these rich elitist developing the colonies to further their wealth are protected by the crown defending them against the French in the north (at a very high cost) and preventing the Dutch and Spanish from having an easy avenue of a rake over attack...
Then when they were asked to just pay a small portion in taxes to cover the cost of security so they could further develop the colonies- they didn’t want to pay their “fair share”
They took advantage of the crown by receiving the care security and developing and expanding their own wealth while not wanting to pay their “fair share”
So they gave oath and allegiance to the crown, only to lie and avoid paying a bill that was only a portion of what it took to secure them, so they can develop their wealth, using slave labor at that, with little to no cost on their part.
Then these rich elitist duped poverty stricken or uneducated locals into fighting a war so they could horde their wealth and not pay for the cost to create it- thus causing countless casualties and hardships.
Then they authored one of the most hypocritical documents in human history(probably laughing the whole time)
Let's inventory some of these "founding fathers" revolutionist.
7 principle founding fathers
-John Adams: never fought in the war, but did defend the Boston massacre British soldiers (got 6 acquitted)
-Thomas Jefferson: never fought in war, unless you count the time he flees from his mansion when it got attacked lol. He did get a 14yr old pregnant though
-Benjamin Franklin: never fought in combat in the revolutionary war
-John Jay: never fought
-James Madison: did not fight in the revolutionary war
Who actually did fight? Who legit put their life on the line
Central bank loving Alexander Hamilton - he new the importance of a national bank...
And the grand puppet these guys controlled, George Washington.
Others:
-John Hancock: one of the wealthiest, but never fought
-Richard Henry Lee: never fought
-Samual Adams: never fought in the war
-Gouverneur Morris: no combat in the revaluation
-Robert Morris: no combat
-Patrick Henry: no combat
-George Mason: no combat
-Peyton Randolph: no combat
-Roger Sherman: no combat
There group of elites were just scheming to gain their wealth.
You know what's funny about Jefferson? He legit thought there was a chance duping the people into war could erase is debt if they won, and went to a new country - so he added some more statues and art to his mansion with debt thinking he wouldn't have to pay.
These "founding fathers" -one of the most hypocritical group at that - making and signing a document that talked about rights, equality, and freedom while maintaining slavery.(and let's not leave out indentured servitude- which was arguably worse)
So these rich elitist developing the colonies to further their wealth are protected by the crown defending them against the French in the north (at a very high cost) and preventing the Dutch and Spanish from having an easy avenue of a rake over attack...
Then when they were asked to just pay a small portion in taxes to cover the cost of security so they could further develop the colonies- they didn’t want to pay their “fair share”
They took advantage of the crown by receiving the care security and developing and expanding their own wealth while not wanting to pay their “fair share”
So they gave oath and allegiance to the crown, only to lie and avoid paying a bill that was only a portion of what it took to secure them, so they can develop their wealth, using slave labor at that, with little to no cost on their part.
Then these rich elitist duped poverty stricken or uneducated locals into fighting a war so they could horde their wealth and not pay for the cost to create it- thus causing countless casualties and hardships.
Then they authored one of the most hypocritical documents in human history(probably laughing the whole time)
Let's inventory some of these "founding fathers" revolutionist.
7 principle founding fathers
-John Adams: never fought in the war, but did defend the Boston massacre British soldiers (got 6 acquitted)
-Thomas Jefferson: never fought in war, unless you count the time he flees from his mansion when it got attacked lol. He did get a 14yr old pregnant though
-Benjamin Franklin: never fought in combat in the revolutionary war
-John Jay: never fought
-James Madison: did not fight in the revolutionary war
Who actually did fight? Who legit put their life on the line
Central bank loving Alexander Hamilton - he new the importance of a national bank...
And the grand puppet these guys controlled, George Washington.
Others:
-John Hancock: one of the wealthiest, but never fought
-Richard Henry Lee: never fought
-Samual Adams: never fought in the war
-Gouverneur Morris: no combat in the revaluation
-Robert Morris: no combat
-Patrick Henry: no combat
-George Mason: no combat
-Peyton Randolph: no combat
-Roger Sherman: no combat
There group of elites were just scheming to gain their wealth.
You know what's funny about Jefferson? He legit thought there was a chance duping the people into war could erase is debt if they won, and went to a new country - so he added some more statues and art to his mansion with debt thinking he wouldn't have to pay.
All those people would have been hanged if they lose the war so its not like they had nothing on the line
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I really don't follow the candidates all that closely. Saw this article yesterday that disagrees ~
One GOP hopeful is an embarrassing, third-rate imitation of Donald Trump
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...sing-his-party
One GOP hopeful is an embarrassing, third-rate imitation of Donald Trump
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...sing-his-party
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