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Universal healthcare does not even mean a government run healthcare system, you have countries like Switzerland and Singapore which arguably are more private focused than the US and yet they still guarantee care to everyone regardless of income.

Can the bootlicker boomer class of economic conservative who rejects things like this hope to survive into the future?
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Canadian here....

Because its absolutely terrible, not saying the current US situation is the best either but government healthcare in a unhealthy population is doomed.
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If it can be done in a way that doesn’t suck and that doesn’t require me to pay more in taxes I’m all for it
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Because health care insurance is the actual problem.
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Singapore has a population under 5.5M, an extremely strong border and a conservative population governed by a "zero tolerance"government with strict laws. Comparing them to the US is something only a smooth-brained liberal would do between crying and fisting ze/self.
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Originally Posted By ThePD⏩
Canadian here....

Because its absolutely terrible, not saying the current US situation is the best either but government healthcare in a unhealthy population is doomed.
The population is unhealthy because of the retarded system. Capitalist hedonism and excess led us here. Their greed and indifference to disease led to this monstrosity of a healthcare system.
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> $35T in debt and rising
> millions of illegals
> majority of population is obese with related health complications
> 333+ million people


Yeah, we can afford "free health care"

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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps⏩
> $35T in debt and rising
> millions of illegals
> majority of population is obese with related health complications
> 333+ million people


Yeah, we can afford "free health care"

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Rand corp did a study on this, and it ended up costing only 70B or so to give everyone healthcare. We spent more on Ukraine.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3106.html

It is definitely doable. Keep in mind, we are spending 1 T annually on the military.
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
Rand corp did a study on this, and it ended up costing only 70B or so to give everyone healthcare.We spent more on Ukraine.
And "we" didn't want to.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And "we" didn't want to.
Republicans largely supported aid to Ukraine. Maybe you didn't want to, but you don't speak for America.
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
Republicans largely supported aid to Ukraine. Maybe you didn't want to, but you don't speak for America.
Correction wincel.. Republicanpoliticianssupported aid to Ukraine.

They don't speak for America.

Those same republican politicians also support aid to Israel winny... Think about it.
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
The population is unhealthy because of the retarded system. Capitalist hedonism and excess led us here. Their greed and indifference to disease led to this monstrosity of a healthcare system.
Says the guy who believes a medicated society is a healthy society.....
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We already have universal healthcare -- it's called medicaid
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I’m all for it. But the border has to be secured first.

Can’t tell you how bad it sucks going to the ER having to wait for all the illegal scum to go before me.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Correction wincel.. Republicanpoliticianssupported aid to Ukraine.

They don't speak for America.

Those same republican politicians also support aid to Israel winny... Think about it.
They literally speak for Americans, you fuking moron.
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
They literally speak for Americans, you fuking moron.
But... Those same republican politicians also support aid to Israel wincel... Think about it.

Your sad little appeal to authority is falling flat here winny. Years and years of "Zomg teh korporate money in politics! Politicians fuking teh country over! KOrUpt10n!"

And now you've got your little algebra 1 failure ass wrapped in the flag pretending like republican politicians - which I know you loathe, speak for you lol.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
But... Those same republican politicians also support aid to Israel wincel... Think about it.

Your sad little appeal to authority is falling flat here winny. Years and years of "Zomg teh korporate money in politics! Politicians fuking teh country over! KOrUpt10n!"

And now you've got your little algebra 1 failure ass wrapped in the flag pretending like republican politicians - which I know you loathe, speak for you lol.
What the fuk are you even talking about? I am saying we (Americans) spent more on Ukraine than would have been needed for universal healthcare.

What part of this is hard to grasp for you?

Ask Fig to explain it to you.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
I’m all for it. But the border has to be secured first.

Can’t tell you how bad it sucks going to the ER having to wait for all the illegal scum to go before me.
Yeah agreed completely. Same for any country.

Imagine if Republicans ran on a strong border and a universal (but still entirely choice based private/public hybrid insurance system) healthcare platform. It would be the easiest win ever.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Universal healthcare does not even mean a government run healthcare system, you have countries like Switzerland and Singapore which arguably are more private focused than the US and yet they still guarantee care to everyone regardless of income.

Can the bootlicker boomer class of economic conservative who rejects things like this hope to survive into the future?
Honest Reply: ising, can we be perfectly honest instead of towing the line here?

Universal Healthcare in the USA does sound awesome.All of your healthcare under the US government, taken care of.

One of the problems is that this is an extreme political football that has self-assumed pundits supporting it.

If you have any real experience in business, your success boils down to the people on the ground or the general population who are face-to-face, working directly with the individuals and families who comprise the demographics of this product. In other words, 250 million people.

No matter your politics, it boils down to service. I might have symptoms of prostate cancer. If it takes me literally 6 months to finally see me for an initial assessment, my cancer might have advanced to the terminal level. Anything less than urgent is slow-motion and cancelling out the perceived value of Universal Healthcare.

So, I guess the public's viewpoint is that my vote is worth more than me living for another 6 months.

IMO, the public is being played.
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
What the fuk are you even talking about? I am saying we (Americans) spent more on Ukraine than would have been needed for universal healthcare.

What part of this is hard to grasp for you?

Ask Fig to explain it to you.
And I spelled it out to you in plain English too wincel. "We" didn't want to send $100 billion to Ukraine, and "we" don't want to spend $100 billion on universal healthcare.

...or maybe we would if we DIDN't piss it away on Ukraine. Either way.

How is it that somebody so desperate for everybody to be in awe of the math class he took in high school - can be so dumb winny?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And I spelled it out to you in plain English too wincel. "We" didn't want to send $100 billion to Ukraine, and "we" don't want to spend $100 billion on universal healthcare.

...or maybe we would if we DIDN't piss it away on Ukraine. Either way.

How is it that somebody so desperate for everybody to be in awe of the math class he took in high school can be so dumb winny?
"We" means Americans, as directed by the American government. I am not talking about you or your buddies.

And stop calling me wincel.
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩
Honest Reply: ising, can we be perfectly honest instead of towing the line here?

Universal Healthcare in the USA does sound awesome.All of your healthcare under the US government, taken care of.

One of the problems is that this is an extreme political football that has self-assumed pundits supporting it.

If you have any real experience in business, your success boils down to the people on the ground or the general population who are face-to-face, working directly with the individuals and families who comprise the demographics of this product. In other words, 250 million people.

No matter your politics, it boils down to service. I might have symptoms of prostate cancer. If it takes me literally 6 months to finally see me for an initial assessment, my cancer might have advanced to the terminal level. Anything less than urgent is slow-motion and cancelling out the perceived value of Universal Healthcare.

So, I guess the public's viewpoint is that my vote is worth more than me living for another 6 months.

IMO, the public is being played.
You must have missed the first sentence of my OP?
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because it means you work and pay healthcare for illegals in US
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Yeah agreed completely. Same for any country.

Imagine if Republicans ran on a strong border and a universal (but still entirely choice based private/public hybrid insurance system) healthcare platform. It would be the easiest win ever.
Well.. I know of "A" Republican who ran on a strong border once.

And I remember how all you libs were enraged by it too.
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Originally Posted By israelmustgo⏩
"We" means Americans, as directed by the American government. I am not talking about you or your buddies.

And stop calling me wincel.
No wincel, stop acting stupid you fuking remedial trig taking schmo.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
But... Those same republican politicians also support aid to Israel wincel... Think about it.
Looking like another $100 billion to teh Juze wincel.. Politicians speak for all of us.. right? We cool bro?
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
You must have missed the first sentence of my OP?
"Sign, Cosign, and Tangerine!"

We do math.. isn't that right wincel?
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On the other hand, why should I pay for the care of the morbidly obese, a drug addict, a smoker, an alcoholic, etc?

And would this Healthcare apply to elective surgeries?
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Because the second you give the government money for anything they shred it up in the beaurocratic woodchipper. Biden threw like $70B at a project to build EV charging stations a couple years ago, and they still haven't built a single one. Just lol at wanting that same level of ineptitude when it comes to your life.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
On the other hand, why should I pay for the care of the morbidly obese, a drug addict, a smoker, an alcoholic, etc?

And would this Healthcare apply to elective surgeries?
Remember Obamacare?



A Capitol Hill staffer hauls the 20,000 pages of Obamacare regulations on a dolly..

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