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BREAKING: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay $148 million to GA election workers
12-15-2023, 02:21 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-...b8ff7763fb12d1
Jury awards $148 million in damages to Georgia election workers over Rudy Giuliani’s 2020 vote lies
WASHINGTON (AP) — A jury awarded $148 million in damages on Friday to two former Georgia election workers who sued Rudy Giuliani for defamation over lies he spread about them in 2020 that upended their lives with racist threats and harassment.
The damages verdict follows emotional testimony from Wandrea “Shaye” Moss and her mother, Ruby Freeman, who tearfully described becoming the target of a false conspiracy theory pushed by Giuliani and other Republicans as they tried to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.
Giuliani didn’t appear to show any emotion as the verdict was read in Washington’s federal courthouse after about 10 hours of deliberations. Moss and Freeman hugged their attorneys after the jury left the courtroom and didn’t look at Giuliani as he left with his lawyer.
Giuliani had already been found liable in the case and previously conceded in court documents that he falsely accused the women of ballot fraud. Even so, the former New York City mayor continued to repeat his baseless allegations about the women in comments to reporters outside the Washington, D.C., courthouse this week.
Giuliani’s lawyer acknowledged that his client was wrong but insisted that Giuliani was not fully responsible for the vitriol the women faced. The defense sought to largely pin the blame on a right-wing website that published the surveillance video of the two women counting ballots.
The judgment adds to growing financial and legal peril for Giuliani, who was among the loudest proponents of Trump’s false claims of election fraud that are now a key part of the criminal cases against the former president.
Giuliani had already been showing signs of financial strain as he defends himself against costly lawsuits and investigations stemming from his representation of Trump. His lawyer suggested that the defamation case could financially ruin the former mayor, saying “it would be the end of Mr. Giuliani.”
And Giuliani is still facing his biggest test yet: fighting criminal charges in the Georgia case accusing Trump and 18 others of working to subvert the results of the 2020 election, won by Democrat Joe Biden, in that state. Giuliani has pleaded not guilty and characterized the case as politically motivated.
Jurors in the defamation case heard recordings of Giuliani falsely accusing the election workers of sneaking in ballots in suitcases, counting ballots multiple times and tampering with voting machines. Trump also repeated the conspiracy theories through his social media accounts. Lawyers for Moss and Freeman, who are Black, also played for jurors audio recordings of the graphic and racist threats the women received.
The women’s lawyers asked for at least $24 million for each woman in defamation damages alone. They also sought compensation for their emotional harm and punitive damages.
On the witness stand, Moss and Freeman described fearing for their lives as hateful messages poured in. Moss told jurors she tried to change her appearance, seldom leaves her home and suffers from panic attacks. Her mother described strangers banging on her door and recounted fleeing her home after people came with bullhorns and the FBI told her she wasn’t safe.
“It’s so scary, anytime I go somewhere, if I have to use my name,” Freeman said, gasping through her tears to get her words out. “I miss my old neighborhood because I was me, I could introduce myself. Now I don’t have a name, really.”
Defense attorney Joseph Sibley told jurors they should compensate the women for what they are owed, but he urged them to “remember this is a great man.”
An attorney for Moss and Freeman, in his closing argument, highlighted how Giuliani has not stopped repeating the false conspiracy theory asserting the workers interfered in the November 2020 presidential election. Attorney Michael Gottlieb played a video of Giuliani outside the courthouse on Monday, in which Giuliani falsely claimed the women were “engaged in changing votes.”
“Mr. Giuliani has shown over and over again he will not take our client’s names out of his mouth,” Gottlieb said. “Facts will not stop him. He says he isn’t sorry and he’s telegraphing he will do this again. Believe him.”
The judge overseeing the election workers’ lawsuit had already ordered Giuliani and his business entities to pay tens of thousands of dollars in attorneys’ fees. In holding Giuliani liable, the judge ruled that the former mayor gave “only lip service” to complying with his legal obligations while trying to portray himself as the victim in the case.
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These civil trials are hilarious, wasn't OJ supposed to pay over 30 million, and he didn't give the family a dime?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
They want Alex Jones to pay $2.75 TRILLION (with a T)These civil trials are hilarious, wasn't OJ supposed to pay over 30 million, and he didn't give the family a dime?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2208455.html


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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Sounds like something the Sovern Citizen/Moors would come up with......They want Alex Jones to pay $2.75 TRILLION (with a T)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2208455.html


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2208455.html


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Surely, Blumpf can offer him a loan for his troubles
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What is the point of these lawsuits? Not like Alex or Giuliani can ever pay. It only shows how the legal system is a joke and have no justification for the absurd amount. It’s like they throw a random big number up in air without thinking of the perception people will have of the legal system. How are all their salaries combined for the rest of their lives even worth anything above a couple million?
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Man, they're cooking up something big for Trump lmao.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
They gunna hang him like saddam hussain on live tv?.....Man, they're cooking up something big for Trump lmao.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Whatever it is, it won't stick, but keep dreaming NYPat Lite.Man, they're cooking up something big for Trump lmao.
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lol those dumb women aren't even worth $1 million let alone $148 million.
stupid woman was crying because she had trouble getting a job at Chick Fil A.
LMAO
Ok so if this laquisha worked at Chick Fil A for 40 years she would've made $1.5 million.
stupid woman was crying because she had trouble getting a job at Chick Fil A.
LMAO
Ok so if this laquisha worked at Chick Fil A for 40 years she would've made $1.5 million.
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Theatrics, he won’t pay a dime.
Also, don’t do dumb chit. Guys legacy is in the toilet because he chose to be a dumb ass.
Also, don’t do dumb chit. Guys legacy is in the toilet because he chose to be a dumb ass.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Just for context if the only damages you can show is hurt feelings you're typically lucky to get 5 figures. Something really needs to be done about these commies.They want Alex Jones to pay $2.75 TRILLION (with a T)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2208455.html


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2208455.html


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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
Of courseSurely, Blumpf can offer him a loan for his troubles
Plus Rudy is an innocent and a patriot loyal man.
12-15-2023, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By PeteGr⏩
I think a better question is how come Rudy keeps breaking the laws?How did they arrive at such a ridiculously high amount? Honestly, it just seems stupid.
12-17-2023, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted By PeteGr⏩
Funny, I wasn't hearing that here when Trump tried and failed to sue CNN for $475 million.How did they arrive at such a ridiculously high amount? Honestly, it just seems stupid.
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If Giuliani is getting hit for $150 million, Kyle Rittenhouse should be due at least $300 million from Biden.
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Originally Posted By HaiMeesk⏩
Feel free to get that lawsuit going then. Keep us updated ph@ggot.If Giuliani is getting hit for $150 million, Kyle Rittenhouse should be due at least $300 million from Biden.
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Yeah I don't think it's up to me, comrade. But I'll get right on it.Feel free to get that lawsuit going then. Keep us updated ph@ggot.
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
At the very least it will be a warning to other conservatives/retards not to lie and besmirch the reputations of patriotic Americans.Theatrics, he won’t pay a dime.
Also, don’t do dumb chit. Guys legacy is in the toilet because he chose to be a dumb ass.
Also, don’t do dumb chit. Guys legacy is in the toilet because he chose to be a dumb ass.
The GOP and their conservative media lapdogs now know they can be held accountable for their immoral behavior.
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Completely asinine. "Compensatory damages" means those women had to provide evidence of actual financial harm from whatever it is Rudy said about them. The fact that they both got over $16M in compensatory damages with a total lack of any actual financial harm shows the jury was either completely retarded or decided to completely disregard the actual law because they didn't like Rudy and wanted to make a statement of their own. I wonder the makeup of the jury... oh yeah, 8 Washington DC residents. Surely they were unbiased.
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12-18-2023, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Yeah this is how you can tell its politically motivated. 20,000,000 Million is more than they'll make in their lives and whatever their reputations were worth. The 75 Million on top is just a fuk you and were not supposed to have that in a fair and just legal system.lol those dumb women aren't even worth $1 million let alone $148 million.
stupid woman was crying because she had trouble getting a job at Chick Fil A.
LMAO
Ok so if this laquisha worked at Chick Fil A for 40 years she would've made $1.5 million.
stupid woman was crying because she had trouble getting a job at Chick Fil A.
LMAO
Ok so if this laquisha worked at Chick Fil A for 40 years she would've made $1.5 million.
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Was wondering why it was such a ridiculously high amount, then saw that it was 2 black women and it made sense.
Lol @ thinking they are actually going to get paid this amount from Giuliani.
Lol @ thinking they are actually going to get paid this amount from Giuliani.
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Originally Posted By BuckNakedinBama⏩
Rudy didn't even bother testifying in his own defense and even his own lawyers admitted he had fuked up. He also admitted he had made defamatory remarks.Completely asinine. "Compensatory damages" means those women had to provide evidence of actual financial harm from whatever it is Rudy said about them. The fact that they both got over $16M in compensatory damages with a total lack of any actual financial harm shows the jury was either completely retarded or decided to completely disregard the actual law because they didn't like Rudy and wanted to make a statement of their own. I wonder the makeup of the jury... oh yeah, 8 Washington DC residents. Surely they were unbiased.
While Giuliani conceded in July that he did make defamatory statements about Moss and Freeman, he attempted to argue that his statements did not cause any damage to the two women and that his comments about voter fraud in Georgia in the 2020 election were protected speech.
During opening statements on Monday,his attorney Joseph Sibley acknowledged that some harm was done to Freeman and Mossand that the jury would be awarding damages against his client. But he argued that the amount sought by the plaintiffs far exceeded what Giuliani should have to pay them as a result of his conduct.
https://www.waaytv.com/news/rudy-giu...4a4795482.htmlDuring opening statements on Monday,his attorney Joseph Sibley acknowledged that some harm was done to Freeman and Mossand that the jury would be awarding damages against his client. But he argued that the amount sought by the plaintiffs far exceeded what Giuliani should have to pay them as a result of his conduct.
You can argue about the amount but his liability is not even in question. He should just do the same thing at this point and disappear from the public until he naturally croaks in the next few years in disgrace.

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