People got lung cancer before cigarettes were invented. How?

How many people are adamant that all cases of lung cancer arecausedby smoking?

Where has anyone on this forum said that all cases of myocarditis are caused by the injections?? Specific quotes.

Surely Alex has something you can copy/paste. No?

Lmao…so predictable. I can always tell you’re upset when you start calling people Alex.



Any luck coming up with those claims that all cases of myocarditis are caused by the injections?

Ono.

I've only ever referred to you as Alex

My myocarditis was in 2013, so I don't see how it could have been caused by a covid vaccine.

It is implied in the fearful comments about kids (10-18), vaccines, teens, and all people under 30.
It was repeated over and over in all sub forums and any comments about Covid Myo were ignored and the conversation quickly returns to vax myo.
It was an observable trend here so much so that I wondered how many are parents here, and how many know that covid can also give you myo?

322, the number of skull and bones
this year yale university is 322 years old
2023 is the year of skull and bones = 223, is 322 inverted, as above so below, gematria works when numbers are inverted.

the elites know this year is a powerful year for them hence why they had to to execute their major operations so they can manifest/harvest what they sowed next year in 2024(year of harvest).
every major event they pulled off this year was for energy harvesting so they can further manifest their plans with the energy harvested.


2/3/2023 - ohio train derailment/explosion
8/8/2023- hawaii fire (88 is phoenix, hence the burning), also 1988 phoenix coin from economics magazine. very much related
major celebrity deaths- water ritual/sacrifice of matthew perry, israel bombing of gaza and so on

they stamp events/sacrifices/deaths with their number on everything for everyone with eyes to see in all forms of media.

sacrifices or fake sacrifices for the purpose of energy harvesting of the collective) aren’t random. they’re picked strategically based on a person’s name, birth date, numerology chart, etc for code + energy purposes. same with headlines + scandals. specific people are chosen, in this case Herb Kohl because his name is 322 in gematria. it was a skull and bones ritual 100%.

As to what purpose they needed to sacrifice/fake sacrficie him for energy harvest, I don't know, but the fact that he was the owner of the Milakuwee bucks and the psyop stories of zombie deer are coming out at the same time tells me they are related.

concerts & sports events are all examples of massive energy harvesting rituals that the elite will use to manifest their plans
most obvious one in the 2012 london olympics ritual with the obvious pyramds /covid 19 predicctive programming

I personally wouldnt be surprised at all to start hearing stories about prions in humans in the upcoming years, especially with all the zombie movie predictive programming theyve been throwing at us for years.

So BOTH the vax and COVID can give you Myocarditis? everyone will catch COVID despite the vax so lets double the fckn risk by having both COVID and the VAX

Young People were/are barely affected by COVID so lets increase the risk of fckn em up by getting a JAb they never needed.........FFS do you even logic

Vaccines are bad, mkay?

I’ll take that as a compliment.



Don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone say your myocarditis was caused by a covid vaccine. As you admit though, it’s possible that it was caused by a vaccine. I’ve also never seen anyone on here claim that all cases of myocarditis are due to covid vaccines. But don’t let that little fact get in the way of your strawmen.

I know

Don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone say your myocarditis was caused by a covid vaccine. As you admit though, it’s possible that it was caused by a vaccine.

If grandma was vaxed would you have shortened her stay in solitary confinement in the cold dark garage?

don't believe anything that loser says the injection causes myocarditis 100% it's not "covid" that causes it.

Which one in December of 2013?

Which vaccines did you get that year?

You say that all vaccines have the same potential for myocarditis as the mRNA covid vaccines. This is incorrect, but does still highlight the fact that lots of vaccines come with the risk of myocarditis. So while I don’t know your medical history, I do know you seem to have a deep love for all vaccines and probably got a flu vaccine that year(possibly along with any others). So if your problems were caused by a vaccine, which you admit is possible, then the most likely culprit would be whichever vaccine you received most recently before your troubles emerged.

"Compared with COVID-19 vaccination, the incidence of myopericarditis was significantly higher following smallpox vaccinations (132·1 [81·3–214·6], p<0·0001) but was not significantly different after influenza vaccinations (1·3 [0·0–884·1], p=0·43) or in studies reporting on various other non-smallpox vaccinations (57·0 [1·1–3036·6], p=0·58)"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9000914/


(Regression tho)

My cardiac team concluded viral aetiology.

However, I didn't consult any grifters, so who knows?

Studies were published and the percentages were small. Most recovered and in one study only 2 teens had severe results. You are fearful of a thing that has a low rate, do you even logic?
Are you13-20?

although it was scary to see that vax induced LC took a long time to be accepted and now they are talking about it: science .org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance

and this sentence quite disturbing:it is possibly very difficult to find something you wish to avoid looking for (not for conspiratorial reasons necessarily)


far-fetched to use as "proof" of anything of course, just was a bit disturbed by this article because: a) experts now accept and have evidence for something 1-2 years ago people would shame someone for; b) the lingering gaslighting of the same article

Still doesn't explain my experience.

Also:

Vaccines reduce the risk of long COVID in children

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-04032-z

Impact of COVID-19 vaccination on the risk of developing long-COVID and on existing long-COVID symptoms: A systematic review

"Low level of evidence (grade III, case-controls, cohort studies) suggests that vaccination before SARS-CoV-2 infection could reduce the risk of subsequent long-COVID. The impact of vaccination in people with existing long-COVID symptoms is still controversial, with some data showing changes in symptoms and others did not. These assumptions are limited to those vaccines used in the studies."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...6/fulltext#%20

Efficacy of first dose of covid-19 vaccine versus no vaccination on symptoms of patients with long covid: target trial emulation based on ComPaRe e-cohort

"In this study, covid-19 vaccination reduced the severity of symptoms and the effect of long covid on patients' social, professional, and family lives at 120 days in those with persistent symptoms of infection."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9978748/

Potential reduction of post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 symptoms via vaccination

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....15589231191812

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9978748/

It seems disingenuous to suggest nobody is looking/investigating.

Sorry, I didn't mean that to relate to any of your experience.

That is an investigation as to whether they are protective in the scenario of immunisation and then getting an infection.

That article I linked is a totally different aspect - the vaccine causing Long Covid in the absence of a Covid infection.

People would still dismiss it despite Iwasaki - Sterling distinguished Professor of Immunobiology directly supporting it. The culture of gaslighting is still there.

Just need some evidence to support the theory

Sure. Quite still unproven apart from case reports and small-scale upticks in certain conditions.

But these people in the article are quite the far cry from quacks.

Also, the cardiologist lad himself admits that he avoided it out of somewhat fear and then dived deep.

I wonder how much selective efforts like the aforementioned play a role in how much evidence links there is for something... (again, not for conspiratorial deep state reasons, just ends up falling through the cracks)

I definitely feel like the goalposts have been moved on this from the past 2 years (from certain establishment individuals, such as Iwasaki).

It's also important to pretend all of these concerns are unique to covid vaccines

Not even in the slightest. Why would you think I am suggesting that? Not unique to Covid vaccines but extendable to many infectious diseases and vaccines.

But they are not stupid they control for Covid infections as an obvious differential. And yet now they claim this openly whilst being shut 2 years ago. Pretty crazy NGL. Science moves like this I am aware but attitudes in top researchers and clinicians towards certain hypothesises and cascading effort/attention given can affect how many links one can pile up as research for those hypothesises, yes?

I dunno how piling up links counts as research.

One would think that if the vaccines are as bad and harmful as the misc promotes, we'd see it. Yes?

Lmfao at JShillC



In the past he readily admitted that the injections don’t seem to offer protection against long covid. He also shared and accepted studies which claimed >20% of people who got covid had symptoms two years later. He believed studies that had exactly zero data validation. And just because we’re keeping track, he also believed that omicron was as severe as delta for years.



Now all of a sudden he shares links to studies which seem to conclude that injections help prevent long covid. Guy is a certified potato.




And now he’ll make some dumbass comment in rebuttal and think that my lack of response means he’s right, when really it’s just not worth the time. I’d prefer to just occasionally point out his idiocy and keep moving along.

Not going to happen because they are not.

I was mostly referring to the what you mentioned about the LC inducing aspect - about proof. And I agree with that.

But I was wondering of attitudes towards testing certain hypothesises affect how much attention they get, as per the article I linked.