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01-07-2024, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
My doctor recommended that I don’t get it. 100% srs.And you are also being dishonest and making outright false claims. Which doctors recommend against them? i have seen arguments against BOOSTING for certain age groups. That is distinct from a primary course vaccination. Again, you confuse basic terms. I have zero emotional investment in this. I am waiting for decent arguments.
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
01-07-2024, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
You made a claim about the report, I can post studies all day long regarding the clotshot and myocarditis. Again, you made a claim..back it up. Why is this so hard for you?OK. A simple google search reveals this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9467278/
And there are several other such papers exploring the myocarditis risk for the vaccines vs the virus. You are misinterpreting the report. Listing side effects and recommendations doesn't change anything about what the increase is relative to.
If it isn't to baseline, what is it to, Paul?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9467278/
And there are several other such papers exploring the myocarditis risk for the vaccines vs the virus. You are misinterpreting the report. Listing side effects and recommendations doesn't change anything about what the increase is relative to.
If it isn't to baseline, what is it to, Paul?
01-07-2024, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
Sorry, you're an anti-vaxxer, **** off.Again, you haven't answered my question.
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
01-07-2024, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Always hilarious, sad, and pathetic when Benny tries to be smug......Clown post from clown poster who locked grandma in the garage when she caught a cold. lol at you, clown
01-07-2024, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
First off, I never claimed vaccines were more dangerous than the virus, ITT. I posted the warnings and side effects Pfizer directly released themselves. You've been trying to play whataboutism the entire time. Once again, their words are quite clear...I actually didn't make any claim about the report. You did. I tried to explain it to you. I have linked you evidence to support my point. You are claiming the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus. Why should I believe that. Pfizer doesn't say that. You misrepresented what Pfizer said.
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)"
You don't have to listen to me..that's why I posted what Pfizer is telling you for themselves.
01-07-2024, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
it's too late for you to believe any of usI can. I can also imagine taking it on the recommendation of the scientific and medical community in order to minimize my risk of severe illness or death from the virus.
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
rest in pieces, brah srs
u saw a company with a 2.3B fraud judgment receive a blanket liability waiver and thought, you know what, i'm gonna trust their product lmao
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01-07-2024, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Just because it came out in nine months, doesn't mean it was rushed, just because everyone took the Pfizer jab the wrong way for over a year, doesn't mean it was rushed.can u imagine taking several doses of a rushed, experimental gene therapy manufactured by a company with a history of having paid the largest fine for fraud in history with tons of contamination in every shot because corporate media (that receives millions of dollars from that same corrupt company) spooked you lmao
and then on top of that, defending them for years after in order to cope frk
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and then on top of that, defending them for years after in order to cope frk
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01-07-2024, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
What happened to doctors who didn't go along with the narrative?Interesting. Well, mine recommended I did, and all the top doctors in the country seemed to agree. Maybe you're lying. Or maybe you have a bad doctor. Oh well. That doesn't convince me to believe you.
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
01-07-2024, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
Stop pivoting. I have made no such claims. You made the claim about the paper Pfizer released, either you can back up your claim or not...So is your claim that vaccines increase the risk of myocarditis relative to not taking the vaccine? That's fine. But did you account for this result from the paper I linked?
In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found that the risk of myocarditis is more than seven fold higher in persons who were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 than in those who received the vaccine. These findings support the continued use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines among all eligible persons per CDC and WHO recommendations.
Because if you do, it seems to me that the reocmmendations by the scientific and medical community still hold.
In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found that the risk of myocarditis is more than seven fold higher in persons who were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 than in those who received the vaccine. These findings support the continued use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines among all eligible persons per CDC and WHO recommendations.
Because if you do, it seems to me that the reocmmendations by the scientific and medical community still hold.
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)"
01-07-2024, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
You did however claim in another thread that almost all vaccines cause more serious side effects then the diseases for which they confer acquired immunity. You said you'd come back with evidence, but never did.First off, I never claimed vaccines were more dangerous than the virus, ITT. I posted the warnings and side effects Pfizer directly released themselves. You've been trying to play whataboutism the entire time. Once again, their words are quite clear...
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)"
You don't have to listen to me..that's why I posted what Pfizer is telling you for themselves.
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)"
You don't have to listen to me..that's why I posted what Pfizer is telling you for themselves.
A common theme 'round these parts.

01-07-2024, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
Some posters don't like the results of those reviews, therefore those reviews are invalid.Yeah because of the scientific and medical evidence. Pfizer has had many products. Some of them work very well, and some were harmful.
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?

01-07-2024, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
As do many other vaccines.Stop pivoting. I have made no such claims. You made the claim about the paper Pfizer released, either you can back up your claim or not...
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)"
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)"
01-07-2024, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
what vaccines confirm immunity?You did however claim in another thread that almost all vaccines cause more serious side effects then the diseases for which they confer acquired immunity. You said you'd come back with evidence, but never did.
A common theme 'round these parts.

A common theme 'round these parts.

01-07-2024, 04:19 PM
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01-07-2024, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
on the plus side, they owned trump by taking it, even though it was his warp speed programimagine injecting yourself with something rushed from a company known to commit fraud and cut corners on their products, who has immunity for their new product. this is how stupid the vast majority of human beings are. just loooool
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01-07-2024, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Just lol at not anti vaccine, only anti covid vaccine.imagine injecting yourself with something rushed from a company known to commit fraud and cut corners on their products, who has immunity for their new product. this is how stupid the vast majority of human beings are. just loooool
At least own your position

01-07-2024, 04:52 PM
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Stops transmission
Oops, ok but it prevents serious illness and death
Oops, ok but it prevents death
Oops, Ok then, well we get to own the MAGAts at least

Oops, ok but it prevents serious illness and death
Oops, ok but it prevents death
Oops, Ok then, well we get to own the MAGAts at least
didn’t stop hospitalization/deathat all, either.
Australia: 86% vaccinated make up 94% deaths and 100% hospitalizations
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...w-20221231.pdfAustralia: 86% vaccinated make up 94% deaths and 100% hospitalizations

01-07-2024, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
You shouldn't? Why would you? Take everything in, make up your own mind.Again, the discussion isn't about the alleged corruption of the medical community. I simply asked this:
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
You have not made a convincing argument. On the other hand, there is a plethora of scientific evidence to support the scientific consensus on this matter. Again, why should I believe you?
Explain why I should believe any of you over the medical advice of our nation's most renowned experts on medicine and biology. Have any of you gone to medical school? Are any of you experts in immunology?
You have not made a convincing argument. On the other hand, there is a plethora of scientific evidence to support the scientific consensus on this matter. Again, why should I believe you?
On one hand you do have experts with expertise, which is something to consider. You should also consider the corrupt nature, particularly now, when it comes to pharmaceuticals, how historically it is incredibly easy to get these exact same experts to manipulate or twist things in order to ultimately make profit for objectively evil organizations. You're not going to deny that, are you?
So, yeah, like everyone else, think for yourself, look around and make the best informed decision you can. You seem to look at covid, certainly in the past (if not in it's current form) as a major threat to people's health or lives. I don't agree, so my perspective on these vaccines is going to be different. I don't care if you or anyone else makes an informed decision, you do you - my only gripe is the propaganda, lying and coercion surrounding it.
I don't think you deny that either, so really we're not that far apart on this.
And, btw, there are plenty of doctors who disagree with the vaccines or think they were rushed and/or not necessary. Why discount them? How many experts not on the payroll of pharma or making money from it -- how many of them are ardent pro-vaccine types who demand children get it?
Srs, show me the opinions of any 'renowned' expert who isn't on the payroll of pharma or connected to them somehow. I'd like to see neutral opinions on it. I suspect, not as overwhelmingly in favor of them as you think, W.
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01-07-2024, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
So the unvaccinated who died didn't go to the hospital?Stops transmission
Oops, ok but it prevents serious illness and death
Oops, ok but it prevents death
Oops, Ok then, well we get to own the MAGAts at least
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...w-20221231.pdf

Oops, ok but it prevents serious illness and death
Oops, ok but it prevents death
Oops, Ok then, well we get to own the MAGAts at least
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...w-20221231.pdf

01-07-2024, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lol…don’t worry. Just nine more months and you can get yet ANOTHER injection.So the unvaccinated who died didn't go to the hospital?
01-07-2024, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I dunno that "looking around" is the ideal way to make a decision. But to each their own.You shouldn't? Why would you? Take everything in, make up your own mind.
On one hand you do have experts with expertise, which is something to consider. You should also consider the corrupt nature, particularly now, when it comes to pharmaceuticals, how historically it is incredibly easy to get these exact same experts to manipulate or twist things in order to ultimately make profit for objectively evil organizations. You're not going to deny that, are you?
So, yeah, like everyone else, think for yourself, look around and make the best informed decision you can. You seem to look at covid, certainly in the past (if not in it's current form) as a major threat to people's health or lives. I don't agree, so my perspective on these vaccines is going to be different. I don't care if you or anyone else makes an informed decision, you do you - my only gripe is the propaganda, lying and coercion surrounding it.
On one hand you do have experts with expertise, which is something to consider. You should also consider the corrupt nature, particularly now, when it comes to pharmaceuticals, how historically it is incredibly easy to get these exact same experts to manipulate or twist things in order to ultimately make profit for objectively evil organizations. You're not going to deny that, are you?
So, yeah, like everyone else, think for yourself, look around and make the best informed decision you can. You seem to look at covid, certainly in the past (if not in it's current form) as a major threat to people's health or lives. I don't agree, so my perspective on these vaccines is going to be different. I don't care if you or anyone else makes an informed decision, you do you - my only gripe is the propaganda, lying and coercion surrounding it.
I really don't think it's the best way to form and broadcast generalized conclusions as we see around here.

While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not all are equally valid.
01-07-2024, 05:04 PM
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01-07-2024, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
If you're not getting paid then how do you explain your covid addiction?Baling on the paper you shared that counters your positions

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
01-07-2024, 05:16 PM
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Florida State Surgeon General Calls for Halt in the Use of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines
"The Surgeon General outlined concerns regarding nucleic acid contaminants in the approved Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, particularly in the presence of lipid nanoparticle complexes, and Simian Virus 40 (SV40) promoter/enhancer DNA. Lipid nanoparticles are an efficient vehicle for delivery of the mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines into human cells and may therefore be an equally efficient vehicle for delivering contaminant DNA into human cells. The presence of SV40 promoter/enhancer DNA may also pose a unique and heightened risk of DNA integration into human cells.
https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/3816863
This is the 5th report I am seeing of SV40 present in the jabs. Jabbies fuked themselves
"The Surgeon General outlined concerns regarding nucleic acid contaminants in the approved Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, particularly in the presence of lipid nanoparticle complexes, and Simian Virus 40 (SV40) promoter/enhancer DNA. Lipid nanoparticles are an efficient vehicle for delivery of the mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines into human cells and may therefore be an equally efficient vehicle for delivering contaminant DNA into human cells. The presence of SV40 promoter/enhancer DNA may also pose a unique and heightened risk of DNA integration into human cells.
https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/3816863
This is the 5th report I am seeing of SV40 present in the jabs. Jabbies fuked themselves
01-07-2024, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Do you ever consider the source?Florida State Surgeon General Calls for Halt in the Use of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines
"The Surgeon General outlined concerns regarding nucleic acid contaminants in the approved Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, particularly in the presence of lipid nanoparticle complexes, and Simian Virus 40 (SV40) promoter/enhancer DNA. Lipid nanoparticles are an efficient vehicle for delivery of the mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines into human cells and may therefore be an equally efficient vehicle for delivering contaminant DNA into human cells. The presence of SV40 promoter/enhancer DNA may also pose a unique and heightened risk of DNA integration into human cells.
https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/3816863
This is the 5th report I am seeing of SV40 present in the jabs. Jabbies fuked themselves
"The Surgeon General outlined concerns regarding nucleic acid contaminants in the approved Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, particularly in the presence of lipid nanoparticle complexes, and Simian Virus 40 (SV40) promoter/enhancer DNA. Lipid nanoparticles are an efficient vehicle for delivery of the mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines into human cells and may therefore be an equally efficient vehicle for delivering contaminant DNA into human cells. The presence of SV40 promoter/enhancer DNA may also pose a unique and heightened risk of DNA integration into human cells.
https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/3816863
This is the 5th report I am seeing of SV40 present in the jabs. Jabbies fuked themselves
They guy literally removed data that didn't support his predetermined conclusion.
01-07-2024, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You're the source?Do you ever consider the source?
They guy literally removed data that didn't support his predetermined conclusion.
They guy literally removed data that didn't support his predetermined conclusion.
01-07-2024, 05:31 PM
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01-07-2024, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Well that went right over your head.Wat?
No, the surgeon general of FLA
No, the surgeon general of FLA
Dr. Janci Lindsay & Dr. Phillip Buckhaults testify that the Pfizer shot has been found to be contaminated with DNA, which can permanently alter your genetic code, and SV40 sequences which can infect the E.coli in your gut, turning you into a 'perpetual spike factory' as well as cause cancer.
01-07-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
You don't seem to know the difference between confer and confirm, what's a guy to do?Well that went right over your head.
Dr. Janci Lindsay & Dr. Phillip Buckhaults testify that the Pfizer shot has been found to be contaminated with DNA, which can permanently alter your genetic code, and SV40 sequences which can infect the E.coli in your gut, turning you into a 'perpetual spike factory' as well as cause cancer.
Dr. Janci Lindsay & Dr. Phillip Buckhaults testify that the Pfizer shot has been found to be contaminated with DNA, which can permanently alter your genetic code, and SV40 sequences which can infect the E.coli in your gut, turning you into a 'perpetual spike factory' as well as cause cancer.
Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ccine-00093510
Covid-19: Florida’s surgeon general used “careless” research practice in recommending against vaccination, his university finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p110
Florida Surgeon General Manipulates Findings in Covid-19 Vaccine Safety Study
https://climate.law.columbia.edu/con...e-safety-study
Buckhaults made no such claim. Watch the video.

01-07-2024, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount⏩
Wincel, millions were getting it before the mandates. Jabs pretty much came out in January of 2021, they didn't start mandating it till around September of 2021.It killed millions of people and harmed many more. Yeah I do view it as a threat. Governments will use propaganda and coercion to force things like vaccination, just as they use them in war to rally a defense or to discourage crime and vice, etc. If they didn't have mandates, few would bother to get vaccinated, and we'd have many more deaths.
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