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post 1697131313 01-29-2024, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Negative boyo. Boosters weren't mandated right? The OG vaxx had helped made subsequent variants much weaker.

Use your brain when making decisions boyos, too many of you are ruled by your emotions like women.

SAD
nope science says you need to get boosted just like your windows or your latest anti virus you need the latest updates.

or else you might as well not be vaccinated boyo.

DUHUH
post 1697131343 01-29-2024, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I for one welcome Sillie to the antivax crew. Better late than never. Some people just take a little longer to figure things out, but that’s ok(srs). Plus as a cancer survivor in his 50’s he’s probably at higher risk than the rest of us, so his equation was different. The important thing is that he doesn’t need it anymore and that he realizes it.
Much of what you post is true, but not anti-vaxx by any stretch. Get the flu vaxx every year, got the shingles vaxx, etc.

Evaluate all of your decisions in the environment you're currently in boyo. Circumstances/environments change and those changes can and should impact your decision making.
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post 1697131363 01-29-2024, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Gonna find another article talking about the danger of "Long Covid?"
Not at all difficult to find. Just subscribe to a couple TOC's
post 1697131383 01-29-2024, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
See post below for me trashing your stupid argument about being anti-science by not getting boosters.

And yes, of course when you vaccinate hundreds of millions of people who get infected, don't get sick, don't die, the subsequent variants will have a much bigger group of protected folks to jump off from and become less severe.

DUH
You should be skeptical of science...just watch this video to see how it is manipulated. It's worth your time..

post 1697131433 01-29-2024, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By messomi
nope science says you need to get updated just like your windows or your latest anti virus you need the latest updates.

or else you might as well not be vaccinated boyo.

DUHUH
Good comparison boyo! I don't update my windows or my anti-virus that often and everything runs just hunk dory! The OG windows, anti-virus, and vaxx are bigly effective and protective.

Thanks for making my point for me friend.
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post 1697131443 01-29-2024, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
WTF..umm Pfizer

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...er-2021-report

Pfizer BRIBED over 400 medical organizations and nonprofits


It's lulzy how details don't matter to those who subscribe to the narrative


You've been told this..Pharmaceutical Companies bribe doctors all the time, get to know any Pharmaceutical Rep...do you honestly think this is not occurring?
That's not what's in the OP and definitely does not look like bribes to physicians to administer covid vaccines.

Why you gotta mix and match?

post 1697131463 01-29-2024, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
You should be skeptical of science...just watch this video to see how it is manipulated. It's worth your time..

If you don't trust science why are you communicating using science? You drive using science. Your healthcare is all science.

How do you pick and choose which science to not trust?
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Good comparison boyo! I don't update my windows or my anti-virus that often and everything runs just hunk dory! The OG windows, anti-virus, and vaxx are bigly effective and protective.

Thanks for making my point for me friend.
you might as well not have washed those african feet then.

greetings your best friend boyo.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
See post below for me trashing your stupid argument about being anti-science by not getting boosters.

And yes, of course when you vaccinate hundreds of millions of people who get infected, don't get sick, don't die, the subsequent variants will have a much bigger group of protected folks to jump off from and become less severe.

DUH
It was already getting weaker, the jab had nothing to do with it. Hell, in late 2021, early 2022, they reduced the quarantine from 14 days, to 10 days, to five days, and they were still threatening people to get the jab.

And people like you supported the mandates. Now we have a pilot shortage, the military is so desperate that they dropped the jab requirement and is begging those who got a dishonorable discharge to come back.

Actions have consequences.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
If you don't trust science why are you communicating using science? You drive using science. Your healthcare is all science.

How do you pick and choose which science to not trust?
Says the guy who didn't get the booster shots..... Hell, even Benny got his booster. And you didn't even get your RSV jab, or flu shot, you're anti-science.
post 1697131733 01-29-2024, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
That's not what's in the OP and definitely does not look like bribes to physicians to administer covid vaccines.

Why you gotta mix and match?

That is Pfizer on record bribing..Pfizer is the maker of said vaccine. Pfizer bribes to push their products..no mixing and matching, same company for it all.
post 1697131803 01-29-2024, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
How is that any different than many other sales tactics boyo? Salesman always offer sweet incentives to use their product. The pharmacy industry is known to pimp their drugs that make them the most money. It's part of the American way boyo.
The thing that none of the supporters want to discuss is that the incentives were offered by an insurance provider, not a pharma company.

An insurance company wanted their subscribers to be vaccinated.

The narrative suggests that's because insurance companies want to kill off their customers, which is why I asked if in the US premiums continue to be paid after one dies. Otherwise the theory/narrative doesn't make much sense.

On the contrary, if insurance companies figured vaccinated people would subsequently make fewer claims, thus saving the insurance company money, it makes sense that they would invest in encouraging vaccination.

What's lulzy is that's the OP, but nobody wants to discuss it. Anybody who tries to question the narrative is paid by pharma to dishonestly troll this forum - how can that be a theory people buy into?

Just lol


post 1697131863 01-29-2024, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
That is Pfizer on record bribing..Pfizer is the maker of said vaccine. Pfizer bribes to push their products..no mixing and matching, same company for it all.
I don't get why you don't read the stuff you post.

Still lulzy tho

post 1697131873 01-29-2024, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
If you don't trust science why are you communicating using science? You drive using science. Your healthcare is all science.

How do you pick and choose which science to not trust?
I try to find out as much as I can about the product, research, speak to others that have first hand use, and generally I learned from history that if the govt REALLY REALLY wants you to do something, it most likely not in your best interest. The vast majority of mouth breathers don't know jack **** about world history and honestly don't give a chit.
post 1697131913 01-29-2024, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I don't get why you don't read the stuff you post.

Still lulzy tho

What do you think the document I posted is evidence of?

Do tell..

I don't get why you continue to lie, deny and slide forums..but you do you.
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Originally Posted By Paul
I try to find out as much as I can about the product, research, speak to others that have first hand use, and generally I learned from history that if the govt REALLY REALLY wants you to do something, it most likely not in your best interest. The vast majority of mouth breathers don't know jack **** about world history and honestly don't give a chit.
Except shingrix


post 1697132073 01-29-2024, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The thing that none of the supporters want to discuss is that the incentives were offered by an insurance provider, not a pharma company.

An insurance company wanted their subscribers to be vaccinated.

The narrative suggests that's because insurance companies want to kill off their customers, which is why I asked if in the US premiums continue to be paid after one dies. Otherwise the theory/narrative doesn't make much sense.

On the contrary, if insurance companies figured vaccinated people would subsequently make fewer claims, thus saving the insurance company money, it makes sense that they would invest in encouraging vaccination.

What's lulzy is that's the OP, but nobody wants to discuss it. Anybody who tries to question the narrative is paid by pharma to dishonestly troll this forum - how can that be a theory people buy into?

Just lol


Now wait a minute. Insurance companies offer incentives to docs all the time for wellness related stuff. Like getting vaccines.

You're surmising the insurance companies wanted to kill their customers? That seems like a short term business model for failure friend.
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post 1697132213 01-29-2024, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Except shingrix


Thankfully I've learned alot since then..so has alot of people..unfortunately..you'll always be there to convince them otherwise. I guess the world needs people like you, shils are always needed by their handlers
post 1697132413 01-29-2024, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Thankfully I've learned alot since then..so has alot of people..unfortunately..you'll always be there to convince them otherwise. I guess the world needs people like you, shils are always needed by their handlers
Ah. Is it fair to say your skepticim and interest in these things is relatively new? Perhaps began around 2020/2021?

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Originally Posted By Paul
What do you think the document I posted is evidence of?

Do tell..

I don't get why you continue to lie, deny and slide forums..but you do you.
It's literally Pfizer reporting their donations and funding amounts. It's on their letterhead. I would imagine a lot of that is tax-deductible






How is this a list of bribed physicians?


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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Ah. Is it fair to say your skepticim and interest in these things is relatively new? Perhaps began around 2020/2021?

I've always been a skeptic..I think 9/11 did that for most
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's literally Pfizer reporting their donations and funding amounts. It's on their letterhead. I would imagine a lot of that is tax-deductible






How is this a list of bribed physicians?


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And you really don't think these "donations" come with an expected incentive to use their products...?

You new to this???


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Originally Posted By Paul
I've always been a skeptic..I think 9/11 did that for most
Except shingrix
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Originally Posted By Paul
You new to this???
No, but I suspect you might be.

Have you ever participated in a conference? As an attendee, presenter, sponsor?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Except shingrix
And a lesson was learned.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
No, but I suspect you might be.

Have you ever participated in a conference? As an attendee, presenter, sponsor?
Personally, no..good friends of mine have though..I'll ask again.you really don't think these "donations" come with an expected incentive to use their products...?

Come on JLC..let's see that slide of yours
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Originally Posted By Paul
Personally, no..good friends of mine have though..I'll ask again.you really don't think these "donations" come with an expected incentive to use their products...?
How could they?

You sponsor a conference. The money is spent.

You don't get the money back if sales don't go as hoped.

Most of the time it's just a banner or slide stating which companies sponsored the event. Pfizer is likely one of many sponsors for those events. Competitors will sponsor the same event.


Ask your good friends

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
How could they?

You sponsor a conference. The money is spent.

You don't get the money back if sales don't go as hoped.

Most of the time it's just a banner or slide stating which companies sponsored the event. Pfizer is likely one of many sponsors for those events. Competitors will sponsor the same event.


Ask your good friends

Slides and banners are $200k-$5000k...?

Link...?





Sa..Sa...Sa...Slide

LOL..fukin SHILL
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Originally Posted By Paul
Slides and banners are $200k-$5000k...?

Link...?





Sa..Sa...Sa...Slide
Yes.

Companies sponsor events with lump sums. The level of funding is tied to presence of the company logo, speakers, acknowledgements in the program, etc.

The listed funding isn't exclusively for conferences, obviously.

But, the point remains - the things skeptics "uncover" mostly just demonstrate ignorance and/or inexperience

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I think certain members in this thread should considering expressing more compassion and empathy.

The "compassionate conservative" concept.

I get some agnst- but place yourself in his shoes...

Imagine if you have been so deep emotionally invested in some concept for such a lengthy time period - And then suddenly found out everything you've been expressing what's wrong.

That's not easy / That takes time to come to terms with.


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