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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe...den-rcna139091
An FBI confidential human source has been indicted on two counts of allegedly feeding the bureau false information about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden during the 2020 presidential campaign.
Alexander Smirnov, 43, who disliked President Joe Biden, was arrested in Las Vegas after returning from a trip overseas, according to the Justice Department. The case grew out of the special counsel investigation being led by David Weiss, who is also leading the case against Hunter Biden. Weiss had been appointed by former President Donald Trump as the top federal prosecutor in Delaware.
The 37-page indictment alleges that Smirnov had been an informant for the FBI since 2010 and "provided false derogatory information to the FBI" about both Bidens after Joe Biden became a candidate for president in 2020.
Smirnov allegedly told the FBI — falsely — that officials with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company that Hunter Biden worked for, had told him they hired Hunter Biden because he would "protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems." Smirnov allegedly told the FBI — again, falsely — that Burisma officials had told him they paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden $5 million and that it would take investigators 10 years to find the illicit payments to Joe Biden.
A source familiar with the matter told NBC News that Hunter Biden does not know the individual who was charged and does not believe he ever met him.
"As alleged herein, the events the Defendant first reported to the Handler in June 2020 were fabrications. In truth and fact, the Defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the Obama-Biden Administration and after the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016, in other words, when [Joe Biden] had no ability to influence U.S. policy and when the Prosecutor General was no longer in office. In short, the Defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against [Joe Biden], the presumptive nominee of one of the two major political parties for President, after expressing bias against [Joe Biden] and his candidacy."
The indictment states that Smirnov "repeated some of his false claims" after being interviewed by FBI special agents in September 2023, while he "changed his story as to other of his claims, and promoted a new false narrative after he said he met with Russian officials."
Smirnov wrote in one May 2020 message to his FBI handler that Joe Biden was "going to jail" and suggested that he knew some of the allegations "should be soon in the news."
Smirnov was told at least seven times he may have to testify about information he provided to FBI and he was admonished by the handler at least 21 times to tell the truth to the bureau, the indictment says.
An FBI confidential human source has been indicted on two counts of allegedly feeding the bureau false information about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden during the 2020 presidential campaign.
Alexander Smirnov, 43, who disliked President Joe Biden, was arrested in Las Vegas after returning from a trip overseas, according to the Justice Department. The case grew out of the special counsel investigation being led by David Weiss, who is also leading the case against Hunter Biden. Weiss had been appointed by former President Donald Trump as the top federal prosecutor in Delaware.
The 37-page indictment alleges that Smirnov had been an informant for the FBI since 2010 and "provided false derogatory information to the FBI" about both Bidens after Joe Biden became a candidate for president in 2020.
Smirnov allegedly told the FBI — falsely — that officials with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company that Hunter Biden worked for, had told him they hired Hunter Biden because he would "protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems." Smirnov allegedly told the FBI — again, falsely — that Burisma officials had told him they paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden $5 million and that it would take investigators 10 years to find the illicit payments to Joe Biden.
A source familiar with the matter told NBC News that Hunter Biden does not know the individual who was charged and does not believe he ever met him.
"As alleged herein, the events the Defendant first reported to the Handler in June 2020 were fabrications. In truth and fact, the Defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the Obama-Biden Administration and after the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016, in other words, when [Joe Biden] had no ability to influence U.S. policy and when the Prosecutor General was no longer in office. In short, the Defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against [Joe Biden], the presumptive nominee of one of the two major political parties for President, after expressing bias against [Joe Biden] and his candidacy."
The indictment states that Smirnov "repeated some of his false claims" after being interviewed by FBI special agents in September 2023, while he "changed his story as to other of his claims, and promoted a new false narrative after he said he met with Russian officials."
Smirnov wrote in one May 2020 message to his FBI handler that Joe Biden was "going to jail" and suggested that he knew some of the allegations "should be soon in the news."
Smirnov was told at least seven times he may have to testify about information he provided to FBI and he was admonished by the handler at least 21 times to tell the truth to the bureau, the indictment says.
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Nothing to see here, just more corruption from the worst *POTUS in American history.
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they will arrest anyone and charge them with anything they want. true dictator style
like they said blumpf would do. always doing what they accuse their enemies of doing
like they said blumpf would do. always doing what they accuse their enemies of doing
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
Alwaysthey will arrest anyone and charge them with anything they want. true dictator style
like they said blumpf would do. always doing what they accuse their enemies of doing
like they said blumpf would do. always doing what they accuse their enemies of doing
02-15-2024, 05:18 PM
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Lmao at the responses itt. The guy lied and got busted.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Lmao the Biden administration DOJ said some guy lied about something that would damage the Biden administration? Say it ain’t so! We can definitely trust the DOJ these days. They are a beacon of trust and have a high standard. Fuking lolLmao at the responses itt. The guy lied and got busted.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
He didn’t even try to lock her you bumbling moron. You think you’re the only one to remember?
Definitely voting Biden now tho since blumpf didn’t lock up Hillary
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02-15-2024, 05:59 PM
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02-15-2024, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
This is why there is ZERO conversation with idiots who make up any fuking reality they want when the actual fuking facts don't line up with the crap they want to believe.Lmao the Biden administration DOJ said some guy lied about something that would damage the Biden administration? Say it ain’t so! We can definitely trust the DOJ these days. They are a beacon of trust and have a high standard. Fuking lol
He didn’t even try to lock her you bumbling moron. You think you’re the only one to remember?
Definitely voting Biden now tho since blumpf didn’t lock up Hillary
He didn’t even try to lock her you bumbling moron. You think you’re the only one to remember?
Definitely voting Biden now tho since blumpf didn’t lock up Hillary
And he did try to lock her up, Sessions couldn't find anything to to lock her up for. He failed.
02-15-2024, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Can you prove it was a lie? Because, by all accounts, the Bidens were knee deep in Ukraine and were certainly benefitting financially.Lmao at the responses itt. The guy lied and got busted.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
Based on this new standard, I'm sure that everyone involved in Russiagate is going to be charged with lying to the FBI? Everyone in clinton's camp who pumped false info on trump into the fbi? Steele? The primary subsource?
I mean, this new standard is quite the revelation and a lot of people are going to be locked up, right? Or... are all of those people held to a different standard?
face it, the charges against this guy are to undercut the allegations against Biden. If they can discredit him in any way, even if his info is true, it is the new media story to undercut the entire narrative.
02-15-2024, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
I really hope Biden never starts a cult village called Joestown, because you'd be the first one up there drinking the kool-aide.Lmao at the responses itt. The guy lied and got busted.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
And for the record, you all voted for a guy who ran on Lock Her Up. Which of course he tried to do and failed.. as he failed with everything he promised.
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What an absolutely pathetic place this has become. If this happened in favorite of they're guy, it would be complete vindication from a "witch hunt".
Do any of you people in this thread have even a shred of awareness of your irrational bias, or are you legitimately oblivious to it?
Totally not a cult though...
Do any of you people in this thread have even a shred of awareness of your irrational bias, or are you legitimately oblivious to it?
Totally not a cult though...
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Isn't the FBI informant just echoing the direct transcript of a high ranking Ukrainian official (I'm terrible with those Eastern European names and titles) who said they "gave one Biden $5 million and $5 million to another"? It was the same Uke politician that described Hunter as less intelligent than his dog.
How dare this FBI informant say what is already public record via transcripts? Can't arrest Ukrainians so arrest an American who says the same thing.
And holy fuk at the NBC article saying statements are false when they have no idea. Written in the style of a random Redditor, not a major news company. Propaganda that would make Goerbbels smile.
How dare this FBI informant say what is already public record via transcripts? Can't arrest Ukrainians so arrest an American who says the same thing.
And holy fuk at the NBC article saying statements are false when they have no idea. Written in the style of a random Redditor, not a major news company. Propaganda that would make Goerbbels smile.
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
Isn't the standard that the onus is on the person making the accusations?Can you prove it was a lie? Because, by all accounts, the Bidens were knee deep in Ukraine and were certainly benefitting financially.
Based on this new standard, I'm sure that everyone involved in Russiagate is going to be charged with lying to the FBI? Everyone in clinton's camp who pumped false info on trump into the fbi? Steele? The primary subsource?
I mean, this new standard is quite the revelation and a lot of people are going to be locked up, right? Or... are all of those people held to a different standard?
face it, the charges against this guy are to undercut the allegations against Biden. If they can discredit him in any way, even if his info is true, it is the new media story to undercut the entire narrative.
Based on this new standard, I'm sure that everyone involved in Russiagate is going to be charged with lying to the FBI? Everyone in clinton's camp who pumped false info on trump into the fbi? Steele? The primary subsource?
I mean, this new standard is quite the revelation and a lot of people are going to be locked up, right? Or... are all of those people held to a different standard?
face it, the charges against this guy are to undercut the allegations against Biden. If they can discredit him in any way, even if his info is true, it is the new media story to undercut the entire narrative.
Oh yes, that is the standard.
Glad we cleared that up.
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02-16-2024, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Derplington⏩
That liberal education……What an absolutely pathetic place this has become. If this happened in favorite of they're guy, it would be complete vindication from a "witch hunt".
Do any of you people in this thread have even a shred of awareness of your irrational bias, or are you legitimately oblivious to it?
Totally not a cult though...
Do any of you people in this thread have even a shred of awareness of your irrational bias, or are you legitimately oblivious to it?
Totally not a cult though...
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02-16-2024, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Derplington⏩
What an absolutely pathetic place this has become. If this happened in favorite of they're guy, it would be complete vindication from a "witch hunt".
Do any of you people in this thread have even a shred of awareness of your irrational bias, or are you legitimately oblivious to it?
Totally not a cult though...
Do any of you people in this thread have even a shred of awareness of your irrational bias, or are you legitimately oblivious to it?
Totally not a cult though...
Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
The special council David Weiss,APPOINTED BY TRUMP TO INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS..... filed the charges against his star witness. But Biden...Isn't the standard that the onus is on the person making the accusations?
Oh yes, that is the standard.
Glad we cleared that up.
Oh yes, that is the standard.
Glad we cleared that up.
I'm done with these idiots. The only point of this forum is to dunk on the morons every time they lose - which they've been doing nonstop since 2016.
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Originally Posted By Jayzuz⏩
Fuking lol. Calling out an error that comes from using swipe typing on my phone, because you know what I said is true. Keep coping, son.That liberal education……
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Fuking lmao. It's absurd that they can't see how biased they are. Just absolutely blinded to it.The special council David Weiss,APPOINTED BY TRUMP TO INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS..... filed the charges against his star witness. But Biden...
I'm done with these idiots. The only point of this forum is to dunk on the morons every time they lose - which they've been doing nonstop since 2016.
I'm done with these idiots. The only point of this forum is to dunk on the morons every time they lose - which they've been doing nonstop since 2016.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Confidential informants report what they hear. Generally, they act in good faith, but it’s not unusual for some to be paid to seed a narrative.The special council David Weiss,APPOINTED BY TRUMP TO INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS..... filed the charges against his star witness. But Biden...
I'm done with these idiots. The only point of this forum is to dunk on the morons every time they lose - which they've been doing nonstop since 2016.
I'm done with these idiots. The only point of this forum is to dunk on the morons every time they lose - which they've been doing nonstop since 2016.
Even if the claim that Biden’s made money in exchange for getting the prosecutor fired is false (which would be very debatable as they did get the prosecutor fired and they did make money from burisma in doing so…), can they prove that that was specifically done in coordination with trump or other political opponents of Biden to hurt his campaign? Of course not.
Now compare that to Clinton’s team paying Steele, fusion gps, Perkins coie, etc. big sums of money to specifically make up claims (Alfa bank, Steele dossier, black ledger) all done specifically to take down trump, and all knowingly factually inaccurate. Nobody indicted for that shockingly…
Compare and contrast and let me know what differences you see.
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Originally Posted By Derplington⏩
JFC.. If I hadn't see it with my own eyes.Fuking lmao. It's absurd that they can't see how biased they are. Just absolutely blinded to it.

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Damn Biden is actually the cleanest president ever he's been investigate so much.
Great job Big Guy!
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Did you salute your Trump as Rambo flag this morning my impotent friend?JFC.. If I hadn't see it with my own eyes.

Definitely not a cult. Every president has their moron followers make fake pics of them and put them on flags all across the country...oh wait.
Love this for you boyo.
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
dems are so desperate for a W they come out of the woodwork and act like this actually means something while ignoring everything you pointed out.Can you prove it was a lie? Because, by all accounts, the Bidens were knee deep in Ukraine and were certainly benefitting financially.
Based on this new standard, I'm sure that everyone involved in Russiagate is going to be charged with lying to the FBI? Everyone in clinton's camp who pumped false info on trump into the fbi? Steele? The primary subsource?
I mean, this new standard is quite the revelation and a lot of people are going to be locked up, right? Or... are all of those people held to a different standard?
face it, the charges against this guy are to undercut the allegations against Biden. If they can discredit him in any way, even if his info is true, it is the new media story to undercut the entire narrative.
Based on this new standard, I'm sure that everyone involved in Russiagate is going to be charged with lying to the FBI? Everyone in clinton's camp who pumped false info on trump into the fbi? Steele? The primary subsource?
I mean, this new standard is quite the revelation and a lot of people are going to be locked up, right? Or... are all of those people held to a different standard?
face it, the charges against this guy are to undercut the allegations against Biden. If they can discredit him in any way, even if his info is true, it is the new media story to undercut the entire narrative.
holy cope on their part.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
And some presidents even have moron followers who fight like wounded animals to "not defend" them whenever they feel up an 8yr old girl.Did you salute your Trump as Rambo flag this morning my impotent friend?
Definitely not a cult. Every president has their moron followersmake fake pics of them and put them on flags all across the country...oh wait.
Love this for you boyo.
Definitely not a cult. Every president has their moron followersmake fake pics of them and put them on flags all across the country...oh wait.
Love this for you boyo.
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Isn't that right Ass Rot.
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I’m not sure who the informant is, but my guess is that he is a foreigner that will never step foot on US soil to face trial.
It would be the same playbook as mueller- induct a bunch of Russians in fake charges knowing you will never see them in court, and let the media run wild.
The funny thing is, when companies or people did show up for muellers cases (Flynn’s business partner, the Russian company that didn’t even exist at the time), mueller team was unprepared and the charges always got dropped because they never actually had proof.
But I’m sure this is different!
It would be the same playbook as mueller- induct a bunch of Russians in fake charges knowing you will never see them in court, and let the media run wild.
The funny thing is, when companies or people did show up for muellers cases (Flynn’s business partner, the Russian company that didn’t even exist at the time), mueller team was unprepared and the charges always got dropped because they never actually had proof.
But I’m sure this is different!
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
So the most important witness to this sham MAGAtard investigation turns out to be lying and you of course don't think it's a big deal. The investigation will now die a quiet death.dems are so desperate for a W they come out of the woodwork and act like this actually means something while ignoring everything you pointed out.
holy cope on their part.
holy cope on their part.
Never change Gilligan.
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