and yet I get a generic breakup without even so much of an explanation why or even something to work with so I can improve myself. Maybe this is the ranger in me but when you fck something up in the military, everyone is brutally honest as to what you need to do to fix yourself. I know this doesn't transfer to woman modewhere it's all puzzles and hidden meanings but I'm obviously doing something wrong and I don't know what it is because no one ever tells me a damn thing.

You are in control of it. If you think there's not something off then you're crazy. We've been over this. There's obviously something off about me too. I'm not stupid and repeating patterns don't appear for no reason. Sure, maybe I hit the L lottery and somehow just met the worst 20 women (in the last few months) on the planet who offer nothing other than a pulse or maybe something is wrong with me that makes them not want anything to do with me. I'm not going to be arrogant about it and assume it's always everyone else. Sometimes it is. The single moms who ask right out of the gate how much $$$ I make. Yeah, that's them being worthless. The stripper chick. Don't even need to say anything. At the same time, the nursing girl who had a great time with me. I don't know why. As I said earlier I'm guessing it's because of the mass amount of options. She's probably hoping she meets someone she gets along with like she does with me but maybe owns a house? Maybe looks differently? (even though she says she's super attracted to me who knows) Maybe X, Y, Z. The thing is, I'd LOVE to make improvements but no one is ever honest so I have to play the guessing game each time for why things don't work out. But am I in control of things? Yes. I'm in control of how I behave about it. Get frustrated. But then goddamn fix yourself. Every morning I wake up is a new day and I'm pumped for it. I don't know how you are in life but if you aren't feeling that way then maybe you should try it.

Yeah, getting to see someone in the long run requires a few dates though at the very least. I agree with you though.

With the somewhat recent ex who's dog I saved, the conversation was actually about that sort of thing, trying to see who each other in the long term about being honest about it. We were on a hike and talking about how people don't get to know the real someone until months into a relationship. We were talking about how people always have their best foot forward to impress and then the truth comes out eventually, etc. She asked me how I handled situations that involve stress and who I am when things aren't going so well. That's a VERY important thing to me as I think men should be able to handle pressure and respond accordingly. Plus, evolutionary, it's what made someone be a protector of the clan/women/children/etc.

So I told her, I think I'm better in REALLY stressful/terrible situations than I am in daily life. I have this weird ability to actually calm down more than normal when everything around me has gone wrong in a bad way. I explained that in daily life I feel like I'm just floating through and the pressures involved are differently.

No ****, 2 minutes later, her dog gets swept away in the raging river near the trail. I jump in, save her dog, almost die myself. We joke around afterwards about the timing of our talk. She also later tells all her co-workers about it, says I'm amazing and that 99% of guys would never do such a thing, blah blah blah. At this point I thought maybe we had some sort of connection and that I somehow separated myself from the team of guys that any attractive woman can have waiting for them if they want. NOPE. Lol. She dumps me a month later with the whole "I don't see you in my future" talk.

I just don't get that sort of thing. These are the situations that are so confusing to me that I can't seem to explain anything or rationalize anything. I feel like she really got to know me and who I am as a person and I feel like there were a couple situations we had (the dog thing being one) where I was able to prove that I wasn't some dude just faking it. I wasn't a self-proclaimed "alpha" who's really an insecure man puffing his chest out (look at the misc for examples) and yet I get a generic breakup without even so much of an explanation why or even something to work with so I can improve myself. Maybe this is the ranger in me but when you fck something up in the military, everyone is brutally honest as to what you need to do to fix yourself. I know this doesn't transfer to woman mode where it's all puzzles and hidden meanings but I'm obviously doing something wrong and I don't know what it is because no one ever tells me a damn thing.



And your statement was fine, it's always in the back of my mind if I'm trying too hard to force something.

I'd say the only thing "off" about me is the fact I actually try to go for girls that are objectively pretty. I have an entire roster of very homely and overweight women that think I'm the best thing ever. I'm shooting out of my league and thats whats killing me. If you want I can pm picks of these women, but that is what it is. When I make fake online profiles with better looking pictures of men that arent me? MAGICALLY women eat up my game, throw out their number and want to meet. Drop your standards and see what happens. Srs. You don't have to marry or date these women. Just see if they're more receptive. And then try "moving" as you tell me. I spoofed my Tinder to Seattle, Washington and I have in shape, skinny, to thick women matching with me that are actually cute. Its insane how better looking women in that state like me, but getting worse looking women here locally seems almost impossible.

There are a finite number of single, decent looking, non fat women out here in the world. There are factors in and outside of our control that determine if they'll give us a time of the day and even still they do the choosing (man I sound like deadliftbrah obvbessing over tight body 20 something). And contrary to what this forum believes. They can't all be "wooed" by game. I know for me location seems to be key and getting away from conservative american whites and hood black people seems to be the key. Hopefully you can find whatever your "key is"


Cliffs: I bet if you drop standards a bit you'll notice more success. Women generally shoot for the moon, but because of the power dynamic they are usually more successful in it than we are.

Might be the most honest post I've ever seen from you. Srs.

Most FAs will never admit it, but I'm willing to bet that 90% of their dating troubles stem from the fact that they're constantly trying to punch above their weight (and they refuse to acknowledge their own shortcomings). If you're a 6/10 you can certainly give it a shot and go for that 9/10 chick.... but don't be angry or incredulous if/when she's not interested. Esp if you don't have a lot of other things going for you outside of your looks.

It has nothing with him knowing how to "trigger" women. He's in shape, in his 30s, isnt ugly, has his life together, lives in California, and is forward with women. That is a recipe for slaying in your 30s in America. He is EASILY above the competition at his age group.

The nurse woman who came over recently said in a joking manner that she was intimidated by my travel experiences. Noted. I downplay all of it though and I'm so anti-ego about it that on 80% of dates, they don't even end up knowing much about travels, things I've done, jobs I've had, etc..

He claims this himself all the time. The simple fact that he is very short and average looking tells me he knows how to trigger a woman because that same women has 6'3+ juiced out Chad's waiting down the street IF she chose to pursue that option. Women are more shallow than ever because they can be; dating sites, WK's, desperado's, etc. However, IMO, Chad's don't stimulate her like he does though (or they use her for poon) so she picks him; an average/successful dude with a good personality, can't complain about that. Most women are shallow cuz, they want the HAWTEST guy, you know that.

I had a woman on dating site praising "oh, finally somebody who takes the time to read my profile and not just skim through the pictures". Same sl00t asks me what I do for a living when it is listed in the profile. Translation: I deemed you hot enough to msg you and could care less about your profile lol. I called her out and she said "I don't know what Traffic Engineering is". Fairly self explanatory IMO or am I expecting too much lol.

We've already confirmed you ain't ugly, just angry so cheer up. The end.

you idiots havent confirmed anything. swimliftrun and cass40 (from europe) said I look ok. That sample size isnt big enough to make any solid decisions on my objective attractiveness.If I was attractive I wouldnt struggle to get average to cute women to speak to me on social apps or irl "angry" ? Yes. Im just oh so angry when Im with my friends and out on the town. So angry on POF/OKC which is why whales view my page. They can sense dat dere anger.

you idiots havent confirmed anything. swimliftrun and cass40 (from europe) said I look ok. That sample size isnt big enough to make any solid decisions on my objective attractiveness.If I was attractive I wouldnt struggle to get average to cute women to speak to me on social apps or irl "angry" ? Yes. Im just oh so angry when Im with my friends and out on the town. So angry on POF/OKC which is why whales view my page. They can sense dat dere anger.

I'm interested to see if/when you move to the northwest, how your success rate will be.
I've got black friends up here in MT, not as jacked/good looking as you are, who straight up slay.

Tall, jacked black guys here in the Northeast slay all day as well.

Its because they can choose from better looking guys online IDIOT. I suffer the same fate online.

You have the ability to smile yet be angry at the same time lol

you idiots havent confirmed anything. swimliftrun and cass40 (from europe) said I look ok. That sample size isnt big enough to make any solid decisions on my objective attractiveness.If I was attractive I wouldnt struggle to get average to cute women to speak to me on social apps or irl "angry" ? Yes. Im just oh so angry when Im with my friends and out on the town. So angry on POF/OKC which is why whales view my page. They can sense dat dere anger.

Let's get one thing straight. I never said you look ok. I said you look handsome.

Let's get one thing straight. I never said you look ok. I said you look handsome.

Appreciate not be flamed and yeah. Thats the truth. Myself, Psycho, and Iamdetermined do actually have women that want us. For me its extremely bottom tier black girls (I barely even match with black women even with mass swiping/messaging), and obese women across the board. I'd post POF views, messages, Tinder results, or etc. However everyone he will claim that isn't an indicative indicator of my attractiveness because they (Pondus/Bunz) seem to think through research, and body language MOST men can become men of valueto womenand this outright isn't true at all. I'm a kind of dorky minority dude with a mostly white social circle. Thats a recipe for not meeting women.

My last ditch effort isgoing to be getting shredded as helland then trying to get this job up north or on the west coast (since my Tinder does well in oregon and washington + jobs are there that I want). if I still suck? Guess I'll just drop all standards and try to find some girl without kids.

I'd say the only thing "off" about me is the fact I actually try to go for girls that are objectively pretty. I have an entire roster of very homely and overweight women that think I'm the best thing ever. I'm shooting out of my league and thats whats killing me. If you want I can pm picks of these women, but that is what it is. When I make fake online profiles with better looking pictures of men that arent me? MAGICALLY women eat up my game, throw out their number and want to meet. Drop your standards and see what happens. Srs. You don't have to marry or date these women. Just see if they're more receptive. And then try "moving" as you tell me. I spoofed my Tinder to Seattle, Washington and I have in shape, skinny, to thick women matching with me that are actually cute. Its insane how better looking women in that state like me, but getting worse looking women here locally seems almost impossible.

There are a finite number of single, decent looking, non fat women out here in the world. There are factors in and outside of our control that determine if they'll give us a time of the day and even still they do the choosing (man I sound like deadliftbrah obvbessing over tight body 20 something). And contrary to what this forum believes. They can't all be "wooed" by game. I know for me location seems to be key and getting away from conservative american whites and hood black people seems to be the key. Hopefully you can find whatever your "key is"


Cliffs: I bet if you drop standards a bit you'll notice more success. Women generally shoot for the moon, but because of the power dynamic they are usually more successful in it than we are.

I don't think you should beat yourself up over that chick at all Ranger. Doesn't sound like a problem with you at all..... on the contrary, it sounds like a problem with HER.

Women are not flawless. They're can be just as fukked up as guys. Even MORE so a lot of times. Try not take it to heart.

Yo ranger, how often how you found this travel/experience to be a negative? The 'conventional' redpill knowledge is that girls want a 'badass guy who has traveled everywhere'.

My own contribution - got a short hiking date lined up, then girl drops that 'shes bringing the dogs' is this a sign of disrespect or anything I should have called her out on?

To hell with dropping your standards. It's more than just getting laid. It's a reflection of how you view your progress in life when you start settling for something less than what you think you deserve. That's called giving up.

I won't ever do it. I'll have a 2 year dry spell. Idgaf.

That's one of my major flaws as a human being. I take lots of things to heart. I take everything personally too. It's how I always push myself to not fck things up or to be better at something. Maybe it was an issue with her but I think (maybe I'm wrong) that women are terrified of giving real heart to heart talks to guys. Some of it is because guys flip the fck out about it. Some of it is because a lot of women are straight up cowards. And sure, maybe the issue was her. Maybe that's why she's 35 and still looking to meet the right guy. My guess is she'll find him soon because she's going to settle ASAP in order to have kids before she's too old. It's a big concern for her because all her friends are married and have kids. Either way, I know I need to not take things to heart but that's who I am. I blame myself for a lot of ****, even when it's not my fault. I place a lot of stress on myself too but I want that. I like the stress being on me because I operate so well when it is. Maybe the military is where I just need to settle and call it a day.

To hell with dropping your standards. It's more than just getting laid. It's a reflection of how you view your progress in life when you start settling for something less than what you think you deserve. That's called giving up.

I won't ever do it. I'll have a 2 year dry spell. Idgaf.

Strong chemistry with you two. Would you go out for a night of fun and shenanigans with Otaku?

Appreciate not be flamed and yeah. Thats the truth. Myself, Psycho, and Iamdetermined do actually have women that want us. For me its extremely bottom tier black girls (I barely even match with black women even with mass swiping/messaging), and obese women across the board. I'd post POF views, messages, Tinder results, or etc. However everyone he will claim that isn't an indicative indicator of my attractiveness because they (Pondus/Bunz) seem to think through research, and body language MOST men can become men of valueto womenand this outright isn't true at all. I'm a kind of dorky minority dude with a mostly white social circle. Thats a recipe for not meeting women.

My last ditch effort is going to be getting shredded as helland then trying to get this job up north or on the west coast (since my Tinder does well in oregon and washington + jobs are there that I want). if I still suck? Guess I'll just drop all standards and try to find some girl without kids.

Tall, jacked black guys here in the Northeast slay all day as well.

Lulz. Really Otaku? You know you can't out aesthetic a person's bias. I know you're frustrated but now you're just being retarded. See vick's post below, location matters. I'm getting tired of beating this dead horse with you.

Haha... I can barely walk for 3 miles as of now. Had spine surgery 12 days ago and now in recovery mode. No night of fun. Lol..

With all the bad luck Otaku and USR had, I can treat them to lunch or dinner in 2017 if they are in California. Disclaimer: no fun and no expectations.

you want to hear from her on what is wrong with you? bro did you ever think she was the one with the problems not you?

What was the spine surgery for?

I'm already in CA cutie pie.

Dinner, my treat. Just make sure to ghost me afterwards like all my dates.

My MRI showed that I got a big herniated disk at the L4/L5 lumbar spine. I think it is from years of sprints and jumping. I felt a major pull on my last set of squats. Pain shot down my left leg to the point where it became numb. My doctor said I need the surgery right away before permanent nerve damage. I feel better now. It will take me 3 to 6 months to heal.

When I say it's my treat I meant it. Please don't fight over the bill. I think at least you deserve to be appreciated for the things you did for the other women. And why would I ghost you when it is just a treat? It is a show of appreciation.

My MRI showed that I got a big herniated disk at the L4/L5 lumbar spine. I think it is from years of sprints and jumping. I felt a major pull on my last set of squats. Pain shot down my left leg to the point where it became numb. My doctor said I need the surgery right away before permanent nerve damage. I feel better now. It will take me 3 to 6 months to heal.

When I say it's my treat I meant it. Please don't fight over the bill. I think at least you deserve to be appreciated for the things you did for the other women. And why would I ghost you when it is just a treat? It is a show of appreciation.

Inb4 Ranger and Swim hit it off and elope.

Inb4 Ranger and Swim hit it off and elope.