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Thread: McDonald's USA CEO: $35K Robots Cheaper Than Hiring at $15 Per Hour

post 1444290931 05-26-2016, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By JetFalcon⏩
And I'm just here at my desk making $23 hr doing absolutely nothing. This would be a dream job for one on of these $15 hr protesters.

It's already been a month and I just made about $3k this month just to sit at my desk. Like not doing any work b/c they can't figure out what to assign to me. I mean I dunno if this is like some kind of fluke or like being an intern who gets paid $3k to just sit around?
Think of it as being paid for the "availability of your expertise"
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Businesses should just straight move out of California. I love California, but it's the most spoiled entitled state in the nation. No one wants to work, everyone wants handouts and think they deserve them because they're a special cookie. But of slack jawed lazy stoners.
good phuck those capitalists. we're not corporate cucks over here in Cali.
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Originally Posted By johsin28⏩
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1.3 million people earned the current minimum wage of $7.25 per hour with about 1.7 million having wages below the federal minimum in 2014. These three million workers combined made up 3.9 percent of all hourly paid workers.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...-per-hour.html
While only 4% get paid minimum wage, a whopping 42% ofall working americansget paid less than $15 an hour.
http://fortune.com/2015/04/13/who-makes-15-per-hour/

That article would lead you to believe that raising minimum wage would not have a significant affect on the cost of labor in the US.


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post 1444291591 05-26-2016, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By joecayse⏩
I used to be an electronics technician, specifically for newly manufactured circuit cards. Brb get paid $21/hr to test, diagnose, repair, and recommend manufacturing changes to complex circuit cards with hundreds of components. Only $6/hr more than some A-hole at the cash register at McDonald's in CA. Yeah, right.
Sounds like you should be getting paid more for your expertise. I make around the same now as an office manager/controller for a small corp.

However I feel that lots of careers are underpaid, but thats the society we live in. Accept what they offer, negotiate up for more but ultimately take it because its the best offer or the fear of not getting another anytime soon.
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post 1444292441 05-26-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By JetFalcon⏩
And I'm just here at my desk making $23 hr doing absolutely nothing. This would be a dream job for one on of these $15 hr protesters.

It's already been a month and I just made about $3k this month just to sit at my desk. Like not doing any work b/c they can't figure out what to assign to me. I mean I dunno if this is like some kind of fluke or like being an intern who gets paid $3k to just sit around?
Yet 1/2 the misc cries about not wanting to work 9 - 5.
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post 1444292461 05-26-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
Sounds like you should be getting paid more for your expertise. I make around the same now as an office manager/controller for a small corp.
I had plenty of OT, which brought me up to over $50k/year but I left for greener pastures. Getting paid much better now for a regular 40hr week.
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Originally Posted By joecayse⏩
I had plenty of OT, which brought me up to over $50k/year but I left for greener pastures. Getting paid much better now for a regular 40hr week.
Nice, I was sorta in the same boat. I got low-balled when I took a position at United Healthcare but I took it because it was money. I ended up being ranked #12 on a team of 100+ and I was getting paid the least. With OT I was working 50-60 hours per week which helped, but they refused to give me a merit raise based on my performance so I left and took my current job up there. 35-40 hours and make about the same as I was making with OT at the other place.
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Originally Posted By IrregularGuy⏩
why does this bother you guys so much? let them get paid $15 per hour
this bothers me because
#1 this wont solve the problem in the long run. prices of everything will continue to go up and in 5 years or so they will just be complaining I need 20$/hr to get by....seriously, fix the inflation problem first if thats possible.
#2 I make roughly 35$/hr now, for example just to say that min wage is 10$ for easy math. if they raise it to 15$/hr then essentially I'm taking a 5$/hr paycut because I sure didnt get a raise.

I'll cut you some slack being 22, you have yet to learn how the real world works.
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Inflation for dummies:

If you have a pie and cut it into four slices, and each slice is $1, that means you have 1/4 pie buying power per dollar. If you cut the same pie into 1 million slices, and each slice is $1, you now have 1/1000000 pie buying power per dollar. Inflation is increasing the number of slices, without increasing the size of the pie.
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Originally Posted By mikenorwood961⏩
(1) Regan also reduced taxes and spurred the economy.

(2) Look beyond minimum wages and look at wages as a whole. wages were higher in Reagan's time but only marginally so. Wages took a free fall after 9/11, and again in 2009. Right before 9/11 wages were better than they were in Reagan's time.

(3) We don't need an incentive for people to do as little as possible.

brb slack off in high school, never learn a skill, expect $15/hour and health insurance. Wut?
brb is everyone gets $15/hour then prices for cheap goods will go up because even poor chitheads have cash.
brb inflation will mean $15/hour is poverty again
brb mcdonalds stops hiring high school kids, everything costs more so your savings don't mean chit
brb everyone on that welfare time
brb lazyamericans expected to work at McDonalds for $15 but McDonalds buys robots from Germany and Japanwhere kids educate themselves because they expect to grow up and do technical jobs; McDonald's profits don't go up much but american't income goes down. Who was taxes? Who was GDP?

lazy children of middle class people will always become poor, lazy children of upper class people will always become middle class etcIn the past, increasing the minimum wage had a temporary effect of reducing jobs that was followed by a long-term increase in jobs... but we are at another tipping point where automation can *almost* replace jobs at the current labor rates, and increasing the cost of labor will actually make automation affordable. Increased automation will reduce the cost of automation (economies of scale) and many low wage jobs will not return.
lol at using regan's voodoo economics as a gold standard. trickle down has been debunked time and time again. even george bush sr. attacked him for voodoo economics until he got the VP nod and had to tow the party line. George Bush Sr lost his 2nd term cause he had to raise taxes to help undue the damage reganomics did.
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The best part is, only minimum wage *******s eat at mcdonalds, and theyre the ones protesting to lose their own jobs.
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Why does raising the minimum wage offend you guys so much?

If you knew anything about inflation, the minimum wage was lapped by it decades ago.

Thanks, Reagan. You piece of chit.
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Originally Posted By Kalmah6661⏩
Why does raising the minimum wage offend you guys so much?

If you knew anything about inflation, the minimum wage was lapped by it decades ago.

Thanks, Reagan. You piece of chit.
Because the minimum wage is one of the things directly responsible for inflation..? Why the **** do you think China and Mexico produce 95% of our goods? Name one item of clothing made anywhere but SE Asia or South America. Find me a tech support worker who isn't in India. Etc...artificially raising wages for unskilled workers forces companies to move those jobs overseas, just to keep ahead of inflation. Minimum wage lags behind inflation, a problem it directly causes, because the government sets that, not companies. You expect the government to keep on track for ANYTHING? Literally LO-****ing-L
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Until we address inflation, we truly cannot address min wage and what it should be. The reason 15$ is provided as min wage is due to inflation. Its a piece of chit system that isn't working for the actual citizens of US, but works extremely well for the businesses of the US.
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
Because the minimum wage is one of the things directly responsible for inflation..? Why the **** do you think China and Mexico produce 95% of our goods? Name one item of clothing made anywhere but SE Asia or South America. Find me a tech support worker who isn't in India. Etc...artificially raising wages for unskilled workers forces companies to move those jobs overseas, just to keep ahead of inflation. Minimum wage lags behind inflation, a problem it directly causes, because the government sets that, not companies. You expect the government to keep on track for ANYTHING? Literally LO-****ing-L
clothing: american apparel, uniqlo makes jeans in the us now, danner makes somes boots in the US, so does Keen and new balance. but manufacturing as a whole is still never coming back, but that's not the sole driver of job loss here.

tech support workers, i literally have an office next to them. also again, not the sole driver of job loss in the US.

minimum wage didn't cause inflation.
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Originally Posted By lowkey122⏩
Doesn't bother me at all, who it really hurts are the small business owners that are barely getting by or paying their employees and not paying themselves. The people pushing for $15 min wage are only focused on large corporations that are pulling in millions or billions of dollars annually, they don't realize that every business no matter how big or small is required to comply with this.

What will ultimately happen is all of the small business that barely have any skin in the game will all fold and those large "evil" corporations who've already invested in figuring out how to automate and eliminate many of their job classifications will end up being the only companies left standing.
And being that Walmart is the #1 business in America that tells me people in this country thoroughly support "small business".
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Originally Posted By BobisMighty⏩
clothing: american apparel, uniqlo makes jeans in the us now, danner makes somes boots in the US, so does Keen and new balance. but manufacturing as a whole is still never coming back, but that's not the sole driver of job loss here.
That's the 5%, bro.
tech support workers, i literally have an office next to them. also again, not the sole driver of job loss in the US.
...didn't say that.
minimum wage didn't cause inflation.
It's a direct contributor, absolutely is. Artificially increasing wages will always result in consumer goods rising in cost much more rapidly than organic wage increases. Couple this with rampant Fed overreach, (and a ridiculously low rate of .5% now) means we're on Weimar Republic time.
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Originally Posted By jubjubrsx⏩
this bothers me because
#1 this wont solve the problem in the long run. prices of everything will continue to go up and in 5 years or so they will just be complaining I need 20$/hr to get by....seriously, fix the inflation problem first if thats possible.
#2 I make roughly 35$/hr now, for example just to say that min wage is 10$ for easy math. if they raise it to 15$/hr then essentially I'm taking a 5$/hr paycut because I sure didnt get a raise.

I'll cut you some slack being 22, you have yet to learn how the real world works.
It bothers me because:

1) it doesn't solve a problem, it puts a bandaid on it.
2) it sets the precedent for others who want handouts and are not willing to work hard for a better life.
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Originally Posted By lowkey122⏩
Doesn't bother me at all, who it really hurts are the small business owners that are barely getting by or paying their employees and not paying themselves. The people pushing for $15 min wage are only focused on large corporations that are pulling in millions or billions of dollars annually, they don't realize that every business no matter how big or small is required to comply with this.

What will ultimately happen is all of the small business that barely have any skin in the game will all fold and those large "evil" corporations who've already invested in figuring out how to automate and eliminate many of their job classifications will end up being the only companies left standing.
Originally Posted By jubjubrsx⏩
this bothers me because
#1 this wont solve the problem in the long run. prices of everything will continue to go up and in 5 years or so they will just be complaining I need 20$/hr to get by....seriously, fix the inflation problem first if thats possible.
#2 I make roughly 35$/hr now, for example just to say that min wage is 10$ for easy math. if they raise it to 15$/hr then essentially I'm taking a 5$/hr paycut because I sure didnt get a raise.

I'll cut you some slack being 22, you have yet to learn how the real world works.
I'm getting a pay raise in September and another one next March. Does that mean you're taking a pay cut in September and in March, too?
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Wait guyz, all the cities which have implemented this like San Fransisco are just like the rest of America, there are literally no differences in anything, plus it's also worked out amazingly well every time.
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Lmao at middle class miscers ITT defending corporations and spitting at those below them.

Corporations and billionaires aren't your friends, their wealth isn't going to trickle down on you. Stop licking their boots you pathetic peasants.

Europeans realized this a long time ago, that's why they formed strong unions, fought for their rights and now enjoy solid pays, strong welfare and a high standard of living.
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Issue isn't the minimum wage here, issue is robots. We don't want them. They'll take your job (whatever you do). Whatever industry you work in, look up robots+your job title. We gonna get raped, they're coming
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Originally Posted By Pinot⏩
It bothers me because:

1) it doesn't solve a problem, it puts a bandaid on it.
2) it sets the precedent for others who want handouts are not willing to work hard for a better life.
Yeah man, people are just fighting over those sweet minimum wage jobs.

Fuk going to college so I can make 40 dollars an hour when I can flip burgers and make less than half that while living in a roach infested trailer.
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ITT: The only people who have issues with min wage being 15/hr is those making 15/hr

Step your chit up or be called a min wage piece of chit for lyfe, time to LDAR boyos
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Originally Posted By iLiketoLift898⏩
Lmao at middle class miscers ITT defending corporations and spitting at those below them.

Corporations and billionaires aren't your friends, their wealth isn't going to trickle down on you. Stop licking their boots you pathetic peasants.

Europeans realized this a long time ago, that's why they formed strong unions, fought for their rights and now enjoy solid pays, strong welfare and a high standard of living.
this. american can't help it tho. they are cucks by nature.
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Originally Posted By BeastModeFTW⏩
this. american can't help it tho. they are cucks by nature.
Exactly.

In the Middle Ages the church used religion to oppress the common people by brainwashing them into believeing that their suffering is temporary and they would get their reward in heaven.

These days the corporate media and republicans brainwash americans into thinking that they shoud just keep wage slaving 50 hrs a week and they too will one day be rich, and that welfare and unions are bad. Meanwhile, corporations and corrupt politicians continue hoarding all the money while the middle class shrinks.

Miscers are the biggest cucks of all; instead of fighting corporate tyranny they defend them bravely. Miscers are like the Africans who cooperated with europeans to enslave other africans, thinking they would be spared, only to end up as slaves themselves.
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
That's the 5%, bro.
Your post asked to name one item of clothing, i listed you 5 companies that make several items. don't move the goal posts after your questions been answered.
...didn't say that.
you said
Etc...artificially raising wages for unskilled workers forces companies to move those jobs overseas, just to keep ahead of inflation.
so, you were saying it's driving jobs overseas, which it is in some sense, but it's not a huge component of job loss so it's not really relevant.
It's a direct contributor, absolutely is. Artificially increasing wages will always result in consumer goods rising in cost much more rapidly than organic wage increases. Couple this with rampant Fed overreach, (and a ridiculously low rate of .5% now) means we're on Weimar Republic time.
it's a direct contributor much like a single drop of water is a contributor to rain as a whole. it's a small portion of what creates inflation. you have many larger factors that are the true culprits such as government borrowing, supply shock, rise in demand relative to supply, inflation can be injected from the asset market, etc. minimum wage is a reaction TO inflation, but you could barely call it a direct driver of it.
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I can see three possible scenarios...

1. Past the cost on to the consumer, the #1 meal will be $12.75.

2. Replace workers with kiosk machines to take your order.

3. Shut down a ton of stores and lay off employees at said stores.
The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now out numbered by those who vote for a living.

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