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McDonald's USA CEO: $35K Robots Cheaper Than Hiring at $15 Per Hour
05-26-2016, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By iLiketoLift898⏩
Some people got to college and work hard and still make ~$15 / hour. People not in STEM careers.Yeah man, people are just fighting over those sweet minimum wage jobs.
Fuk going to college so I can make 40 dollars an hour when I can flip burgers and make less than half that while living in a roach infested trailer.
Fuk going to college so I can make 40 dollars an hour when I can flip burgers and make less than half that while living in a roach infested trailer.
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Originally Posted By BobisMighty⏩
Good work, glad you can name several items out of millions, proves the whole point.Your post asked to name one item of clothing, i listed you 5 companies that make several items. don't move the goal posts after your questions been answered.
you said so, you were saying it's driving jobs overseas, which it is in some sense, but it's not a huge component of job loss so it's not really relevant.
People making too much to do menial jobs increases consumer goods costs, which makes wages go up across the board, resulting in inflation. Artificially increasing those wages accelerates the process. Explain to me exactly how this doesn't affect overseas jobs.it's a direct contributor much like a single drop of water is a contributor to rain as a whole. it's a small portion of what creates inflation. you have many larger factors that are the true culprits such as government borrowing, supply shock, rise in demand relative to supply, inflation can be injected from the asset market, etc. minimum wage is a reaction TO inflation, but you could barely call it a direct driver of it.
I already brought up the Fed; did you miss that?Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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Originally Posted By nightmare69⏩
Honestly I'm expecting all of the above accompanied by a govt bailout.I can see three possible scenarios...
1. Past the cost on to the consumer, the #1 meal will be $12.75.
2. Replace workers with kiosk machines to take your order.
3. Shut down a ton of stores and lay off employees at said stores.
1. Past the cost on to the consumer, the #1 meal will be $12.75.
2. Replace workers with kiosk machines to take your order.
3. Shut down a ton of stores and lay off employees at said stores.
Originally Posted By scullin⏩
This is exactly my concern, I don't give a rats ass about the $15/hr minimum wage crowd, McDonalds was supposed to be a job for high school kids and college kids splitting rent with a couple of roommates while they pursue an education and a house on the hill. The ones that buried themselves in the books only to get buried in debt all to graduate with a piece of paper that allows them to get a job that allows them the joy of living paycheck to paycheck.Some people got to college and work hard and still make ~$15 / hour. People not in STEM careers.
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05-26-2016, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Tikibeast⏩
Yup. My GF has been working in her field for about 15 year and doesn't make that much more than $15 / hour. She had a second job at Lowes for a while just to get a little extra money. That's what happens when you go into a field like psych. But there's no way a burger flipper should make the same. She works some tough hours dealing with actual crazy people. lol The coworkers who have a masters degree only make $1 more than she does too. Only the doctors make any decent money in that field.This is exactly my concern, I don't give a rats ass about the $15/hr minimum wage crowd, McDonalds was supposed to be a job for high school kids and college kids splitting rent with a couple of roommates while they pursue an education and a house on the hill. The ones that buried themselves in the books only to get buried in debt all to graduate with a piece of paper that allows them to get a job that allows them the joy of living paycheck to paycheck.
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05-26-2016, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By scullin⏩
Thank you, like I said earlier my wife got lucky and ended up in a field that pays somewhat decently, but for the vast majority of college graduates they're looking at years of struggling under debt before their education begins to actually show fruit.Yup. My GF has been working in her field for about 15 year and doesn't make that much more than $15 / hour. She had a second job at Lowes for a while just to get a little extra money. That's what happens when you go into a field like psych. But there's no way a burger flipper should make the same. She works some tough hours dealing with actual crazy people. lol The coworkers who have a masters degree only make $1 more than she does too. Only the doctors make any decent money in that field.
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05-26-2016, 02:08 PM
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as much as I want to be sympathetic to people if you're 30 working at McDonalds you fukced up, no other way around it.
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05-26-2016, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By IrregularGuy⏩
location: Californiawhy does this bother you guys so much? let them get paid $15 per hour
ethnicity: African American
I'll tell you why it bothers me:
Go to a fast food restaurant after a long night of work. Ask for certain things. 10pc nuggets, 2 small fries, a cheesburger, etc... I PAY for all of it, I check the bag in the car and notice he forgot something.
Pull back around and say "sorry but I didnt get my other fry". Pull up to the window and notice the worker is is calling me a cheap ass trying to get free food from him. Yep that's exactly what i'm trying to do after working a 16 hour day. Get free ****ing food from your sorry broke ass.
that's why it bothers me
it also means that the price of fry will go from $1 to $4 and if I pay for something that I dont get because imbeciles are working, i will ****ing go irate.
i would take her temperature with my beef thermometer.
ya rly
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05-26-2016, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By dixie_normus⏩
Robots won't forget your french fries, bro.location: California
ethnicity: African American
I'll tell you why it bothers me:
Go to a fast food restaurant after a long night of work. Ask for certain things. 10pc nuggets, 2 small fries, a cheesburger, etc... I PAY for all of it, I check the bag in the car and notice he forgot something.
Pull back around and say "sorry but I didnt get my other fry". Pull up to the window and notice the worker is is calling me a cheap ass trying to get free food from him. Yep that's exactly what i'm trying to do after working a 16 hour day. Get free ****ing food from your sorry broke ass.
that's why it bothers me
it also means that the price of fry will go from $1 to $4 and if I pay for something that I dont get because imbeciles are working, i will ****ing go irate.
ethnicity: African American
I'll tell you why it bothers me:
Go to a fast food restaurant after a long night of work. Ask for certain things. 10pc nuggets, 2 small fries, a cheesburger, etc... I PAY for all of it, I check the bag in the car and notice he forgot something.
Pull back around and say "sorry but I didnt get my other fry". Pull up to the window and notice the worker is is calling me a cheap ass trying to get free food from him. Yep that's exactly what i'm trying to do after working a 16 hour day. Get free ****ing food from your sorry broke ass.
that's why it bothers me
it also means that the price of fry will go from $1 to $4 and if I pay for something that I dont get because imbeciles are working, i will ****ing go irate.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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05-26-2016, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By johsin28⏩
So, exactly what Trump wants to do. Our country will soon be great again folks.Rensi also said that we should do away with the federal minimum wage and leave it up to the states.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...-per-hour.html
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...-per-hour.html
05-26-2016, 02:30 PM
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I can safely say a year and half ago when I was a senior in HS, I didn't deserve 15/HR or $1 for 4 minutes of my time.
I was making $12.65/hour average by the time I graduated, and even that seemed high ish to me
I was making $12.65/hour average by the time I graduated, and even that seemed high ish to me
05-26-2016, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
I work with robots every day of my life and they run at 99.95% efficiency, i'll take my chances on that compared to the ****s at McDonaldsRobots won't forget your french fries, bro.
i would take her temperature with my beef thermometer.
ya rly
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05-26-2016, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Deez
Because we all know, they'll stand around bitching until they get more free money or they'll "protest" and by protest I mean loot, vandalize, and commit acts of assault, rape, and murder.why doesn't anyone talk about what they're supposed to do next when they don't have jobs
Originally Posted By nn586⏩
$15/hr says neither he nor the rest of the master race care.LOL, "no racist" can't save you from that one bud.
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05-27-2016, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Uh huh, thats why its pretty much the breadbasket of america and its larget economyBusinesses should just straight move out of California. I love California, but it's the most spoiled entitled state in the nation.No one wants to work, everyone wants handouts and think they deserve them because they're a special cookie. But of slack jawed lazy stoners.
the red states which give workers no right that miscers like to dick ride are chitholes
the standard of living is poor, everyone is obese, and (worst of all) everyone is on government handouts whilst complaining about people on government handouts
05-27-2016, 01:53 AM
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you know its the end of the world when flipping burgers and packing fries earn as much as a specialist in STEM
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05-27-2016, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted By iLiketoLift898⏩
This.Exactly.
In the Middle Ages the church used religion to oppress the common people by brainwashing them into believeing that their suffering is temporary and they would get their reward in heaven.
These days the corporate media and republicans brainwash americans into thinking that they shoud just keep wage slaving 50 hrs a week and they too will one day be rich, and that welfare and unions are bad. Meanwhile, corporations and corrupt politicians continue hoarding all the money while the middle class shrinks.
Miscers are the biggest cucks of all; instead of fighting corporate tyranny they defend them bravely. Miscers are like the Africans who cooperated with europeans to enslave other africans, thinking they would be spared, only to end up as slaves themselves.
In the Middle Ages the church used religion to oppress the common people by brainwashing them into believeing that their suffering is temporary and they would get their reward in heaven.
These days the corporate media and republicans brainwash americans into thinking that they shoud just keep wage slaving 50 hrs a week and they too will one day be rich, and that welfare and unions are bad. Meanwhile, corporations and corrupt politicians continue hoarding all the money while the middle class shrinks.
Miscers are the biggest cucks of all; instead of fighting corporate tyranny they defend them bravely. Miscers are like the Africans who cooperated with europeans to enslave other africans, thinking they would be spared, only to end up as slaves themselves.
Never seen a bunch of dudes who seem to take pride in having no moral duty to their fellow citizens and revel in scumbaggery. Whilst the system disenfranchises them over anyone else. Fukking pathetic.
They start dickriding "tradies" and "manly jobs" not realizing that mens jobs are the most likely to get hammered:
http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/article-...t-to-computers
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/n...ed-robots.html
in fact, in the grand scheme of things, retail and food services rank relatively low on the automation risk. With more retailers duplicating the "apple model" and offering experiences and supplementation to online shopping, interfacing with real people is actually becoming an essential part of the industry.
Just LOL at these cucks, the american government is duping them as usual. Keep convincing the common selfish peasant that its the unwashed "lower tier" minorities who are going to be marginalized. Because "they deserve it". In truth, its sectors like transportation, storage, construction, and accounting which are fukked.
People need to stop letting these robber barons cuck them so easily.
05-27-2016, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted By dixie_normus⏩
Posts like these make me glad that americans are getting fukked overlocation: California
ethnicity: African American
I'll tell you why it bothers me:
Go to a fast food restaurant after a long night of work. Ask for certain things. 10pc nuggets, 2 small fries, a cheesburger, etc... I PAY for all of it, I check the bag in the car and notice he forgot something.
Pull back around and say "sorry but I didnt get my other fry". Pull up to the window and notice the worker is is calling me a cheap ass trying to get free food from him. Yep that's exactly what i'm trying to do after working a 16 hour day. Get free ****ing food from your sorry broke ass.
that's why it bothers me
it also means that the price of fry will go from $1 to $4 and if I pay for something that I dont get because imbeciles are working, i will ****ing go irate.
ethnicity: African American
I'll tell you why it bothers me:
Go to a fast food restaurant after a long night of work. Ask for certain things. 10pc nuggets, 2 small fries, a cheesburger, etc... I PAY for all of it, I check the bag in the car and notice he forgot something.
Pull back around and say "sorry but I didnt get my other fry". Pull up to the window and notice the worker is is calling me a cheap ass trying to get free food from him. Yep that's exactly what i'm trying to do after working a 16 hour day. Get free ****ing food from your sorry broke ass.
that's why it bothers me
it also means that the price of fry will go from $1 to $4 and if I pay for something that I dont get because imbeciles are working, i will ****ing go irate.
sackless, racist scumbags
can tell you're the kind of low scumbag who treats servers and transport workers like chit because "they're below you".
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You know what nobody talks about? How much this completely destroys the incentive for people to pursue careers that require basic certifications. Why would I spend the time to become an EMT when I can make the same amount bagging groceries?
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I'm making my own robots too.
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Originally Posted By iLiketoLift898⏩
What the hell are you talking about? Literally noone is defending corporations. In fact, several people have correctly pointed out that the large corporations and the upper class are the only ones that WON'T be negatively impacted by this. It's just that the high school dropout morons who make minimum wage are too dumb to realize this and are gleefully chortling over their "victory" and how they socked it to the greedy rich elites. When in fact, all they did was drag the hard working middle class down closer to their level with their idiotic crab bucket mentalityLmao at middle class miscers ITT defending corporations and spitting at those below them.
Corporations and billionaires aren't your friends, their wealth isn't going to trickle down on you. Stop licking their boots you pathetic peasants.
Europeans realized this a long time ago, that's why they formed strong unions, fought for their rights and now enjoy solid pays, strong welfare and a high standard of living.
Corporations and billionaires aren't your friends, their wealth isn't going to trickle down on you. Stop licking their boots you pathetic peasants.
Europeans realized this a long time ago, that's why they formed strong unions, fought for their rights and now enjoy solid pays, strong welfare and a high standard of living.
I hope you are still basking in the glow of your new $15 minimum wage, once you are laid off and unable to find a new minimum wage job with the inevitable shortage of minimum wage jobs that will occur
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Originally Posted By IrregularGuy⏩
We care because this is only going to increase the amount of people who are jobless, which will increase the amount of people that is using welfare, which eventually (after too many start using it) we will all have to pay for through taxes and possibly tax increases (like Sanders is suggesting).why does this bother you guys so much? let them get paid $15 per hour
Those of us that actually have careers don't like the idea of having a larger portion of our hard earned cash used to pay for those who didn't do research on the matter before suggesting/demanding it. Welfare usage is where the majority of our National funding already goes each year. We don't need that amount increasing, we need it shrinking. Otherwise it will only serve to keep people in a reliant state, unwilling to work while expecting the government to give them everything (socialized healthcare, monthly allotted "salaries", "free" education, etc.)
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Unfortunately, this will eventually become a very big problem. It takes the incentive out of working to attain that higher paying salary. Most liberals seem to think that people will still do it because they want too. Just lmao. It's like they don't even live in reality.You know what nobody talks about? How much this completely destroys the incentive for people to pursue careers that require basic certifications. Why would I spend the time to become an EMT when I can make the same amount bagging groceries?
05-27-2016, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted By BMXcaprisun⏩
-more money from ignorant low wage workers=more taxes on wage earnersCan't even blame them. Of course something like this would happen. A 15$ minimum wage is death to businesses in California. As a California resident, I simply cannot believe how this law was passed
-big business gets tax deductions and credits for higher wages from workers
-prices skyrocket forcing those same wage workers out of the areas they were living in
-big business comes in and finds higher wage earners to pay more
-profit for big business
05-27-2016, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted By PickleBrah⏩
Taxes are only based on wage earners. Find ways around this by investing your money. There's plenty of ways to avoid your tax burden there.We care because this is only going to increase the amount of people who are jobless, which will increase the amount of people that is using welfare, which eventually (after too many start using it) we will all have to pay for through taxes and possibly tax increases (like Sanders is suggesting).
Those of us that actually have careers don't like the idea of having a larger portion of our hard earned cash used to pay for those who didn't do research on the matter before suggesting/demanding it.Welfare usage is where the majority of our National funding already goes each year. We don't need that amount increasing, we need it shrinking. Otherwise it will only serve to keep people in a reliant state, unwilling to work while expecting the government to give them everything (socialized healthcare, monthly allotted "salaries", "free" education, etc.)
Unfortunately, this will eventually become a very big problem. It takes the incentive out of working to attain that higher paying salary. Most liberals seem to think that people will still do it because they want too. Just lmao. It's like they don't even live in reality.
Those of us that actually have careers don't like the idea of having a larger portion of our hard earned cash used to pay for those who didn't do research on the matter before suggesting/demanding it.Welfare usage is where the majority of our National funding already goes each year. We don't need that amount increasing, we need it shrinking. Otherwise it will only serve to keep people in a reliant state, unwilling to work while expecting the government to give them everything (socialized healthcare, monthly allotted "salaries", "free" education, etc.)
Unfortunately, this will eventually become a very big problem. It takes the incentive out of working to attain that higher paying salary. Most liberals seem to think that people will still do it because they want too. Just lmao. It's like they don't even live in reality.
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Originally Posted By i3oosted⏩
Those business owners should have just been better at running their businesses, so that they could pay their employees unlimited amounts of money and still make a profit. They only have themselves to blame when the $15 minimum wage hike puts them out of business (an argument that I've actually heard minimum wage monkeys make)Hey business owners, don't like it, get another job.
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$15/hour * 40 hours/week * 50 weeks/year = $30,000/year for a McDonalds employee
$30,000/12 months = $35,000/x months
number of months it would take for the robot to start paying for itself = x = 14 months
McDonalds is a huge corporation with the financial means to take the short term hit and make that investment, especially when it means 100% of what they currently pay employees gets added straight to their profits, their stock price goes up, they win.
$7.25/hour * 40 hours/week * 50 weeks/year = $14,500/year for a McDonalds employee
$14,500/12 months = $35,000/x months
number of months it would take for the robot to start paying for itself = x = 29 months
I understand the argument that raising the minimum wage will lead to jobs being automated, but then why isn't it happening yet? To me, the extra 15 months it would take for the investment to start paying for itself shouldn't be the difference between making the investment or not. Also, this calculation assumes the machine does the exact same job as the worker, though I would bet it does a better job.
I actually agree with the guy that the minimum wage shouldn't be raised, and actually think it should be lowered or abolished, but I don't really think his argument is that great.
$30,000/12 months = $35,000/x months
number of months it would take for the robot to start paying for itself = x = 14 months
McDonalds is a huge corporation with the financial means to take the short term hit and make that investment, especially when it means 100% of what they currently pay employees gets added straight to their profits, their stock price goes up, they win.
$7.25/hour * 40 hours/week * 50 weeks/year = $14,500/year for a McDonalds employee
$14,500/12 months = $35,000/x months
number of months it would take for the robot to start paying for itself = x = 29 months
I understand the argument that raising the minimum wage will lead to jobs being automated, but then why isn't it happening yet? To me, the extra 15 months it would take for the investment to start paying for itself shouldn't be the difference between making the investment or not. Also, this calculation assumes the machine does the exact same job as the worker, though I would bet it does a better job.
I actually agree with the guy that the minimum wage shouldn't be raised, and actually think it should be lowered or abolished, but I don't really think his argument is that great.
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Originally Posted By DrunkPanda18⏩
Respond with: Those employees should have been good enough employees to deserve $15/hour without a government mandate. Fukken lol just lolThose business owners should have just been better at running their businesses, so that they could pay their employees unlimited amounts of money and still make a profit. They only have themselves to blame when the $15 minimum wage hike puts them out of business (an argument that I've actually heard minimum wage monkeys make)
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