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Thread: Fin absolutely DESTROYED my sex drive, need advice SRS

post 1442860181 05-18-2016, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94⏩
lol cheeky. Funnily enough got akwardly asked on a date 2 weeks ago by a guy that lives in the same apartment building as me.

4.5/10 no pics. Get super horny when I'm on M tho.
Start dating girls you find attractive.
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Originally Posted By xavengedx23⏩
So many stupid and borderline autistic posts in this thread yet again. Refuse to waste time to even bother correcting as you tin-foilers think everything and anything is out to permanently leave you disabled. Stay ignorant, and keep balding bros.
Shut the fuk up bitch, you always come to these threads and talk **** about people who are against propecia, but you never bother even explaining anything or trying to "correct" people.

Misc's pharmacist my ass. You are probably just someone who uses propecia, and is on denial about its possible side effects hence why you come to this forum talking **** about anybody who does experience sides. Same for thatZerafiandude, seems like he's trying hard to convince himself that its all a "conspiracy" lulz.



More and more doctors on the US alone refuse to prescribe propecia to young men every day. Well-known doctors on the dermatogy, urology, endocrinlogy and even neurocrindology fields have posted articles telling people to stay away from propecia, because the 2% number the manufacturers claim is so clearly bull****.

Even if it was a 2%, this isnt a rare disease we are talking about. More than half of men experience balding, which makes them propecia users candidates. 2% of very bad sides for a drug that treats such a common genetic condition such as balding its not acceptabe at all.
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Originally Posted By muximus⏩
Bro just shave your hair, jesus.
Never really understood the aversion to baldness that some guys have. On an intellectual level I can, but not emotionally.

Its' probably because a clean shave has been my hairstyle of choice since I was a teen. If I go bald it would just mean I can save time when shaving.

Guys... Trying to stop balding is not worth those phuckin side effects! Just phucking shave!
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Shut the fuk up bitch, you always come to these threads and talk **** about people who are against propecia, but you never bother even explaining anything or trying to "correct" people.

Misc's pharmacist my ass. You are probably just someone who uses propecia, and is on denial about its possible side effects hence why you come to this forum talking **** about anybody who does experience sides. Same for thatZerafiandude, seems like he's trying hard to convince himself that its all a "conspiracy" lulz.



More and more doctors on the US alone refuse to prescribe propecia to young men every day. Well-known doctors on the dermatogy, urology, endocrinlogy and even neurocrindology fields have posted articles telling people to stay away from propecia, because the 2% number the manufacturers claim is so clearly bull****.

Even if it was a 2%, this isnt a rare disease we are talking about. More than half of men experience balding, which makes them propecia users candidates. 2% of very bad sides for a drug that treats such a common genetic condition such as balding its not acceptabe at all.
either take the risk or fuk off, srs people who take fin without looking into it are morons and shouldn't bitch if they get sides they weren't aware were possible, but if you decide its worth the risk then its worth the risk, period end of story. Plenty of guys are pussies and won't take the risk and that's fine, but don't cry about going bald when it was totally preventable given you accept a 2% risk of sides, the majority of which go away after discontinuation of the drug.

Same chit with accutane but the sides are much worse. You take the risk or you don't, the payoff is so good that its worth it for guys with severe acne that doesn't respond to other treatment.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Shut the fuk up bitch, you always come to these threads and talk **** about people who are against propecia, but you never bother even explaining anything or trying to "correct" people.

Misc's pharmacist my ass. You are probably just someone who uses propecia, and is on denial about its possible side effects hence why you come to this forum talking **** about anybody who does experience sides. Same for thatZerafiandude, seems like he's trying hard to convince himself that its all a "conspiracy" lulz.



More and more doctors on the US alone refuse to prescribe propecia to young men every day. Well-known doctors on the dermatogy, urology, endocrinlogy and even neurocrindology fields have posted articles telling people to stay away from propecia, because the 2% number the manufacturers claim is so clearly bull****.

Even if it was a 2%, this isnt a rare disease we are talking about. More than half of men experience balding, which makes them propecia users candidates. 2% of very bad sides for a drug that treats such a common genetic condition such as balding its not acceptabe at all.
Not on propecia. Hair hasn't moved back since 16 years old. Furthermore, why bother and correct anyone when you are the livid anti-propecia psychopath who comes into every propecia thread and writes conspiracy essays on it? We all know I am not going to change your mind on it anytime soon now am I? No need to waste time
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Never really understood the aversion to baldness that some guys have. On an intellectual level I can, but not emotionally.

Its' probably because a clean shave has been my hairstyle of choice since I was a teen. If I go bald it would just mean I can save time when shaving.

Guys... Trying to stop balding is not worth those phuckin side effects! Just phucking shave!
This. Either way, no matter what, you are messing with your hormones when taking it. If you want to risk it, go ahead.
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OP look into zinc supplementation, ZMA, and the book "TestShock" by Christopher Walker. If you seriously are having test problems and its not placebo then this is where to start. Guy's test was at 11 ng /dL. (low test is about 200-400 ng /dL)

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Like others have said, if you do no research on doses, supplementation while on fin you're just an idiot. I got a blood test right before I started, and have another one next month to make sure everythings proper.

If you're on fin, do it properly with a doctor and regular blood tests.
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post 1442863291 05-18-2016, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Lol at fin users. The most self-conscious people out there. "Oh so you're saying I'll be risking penis usage for some hair so I can still be FA, but at least I am lookmaxing for women who won't ever bang me? Sign me up!"

When men put more emphasis on thier hair than their dink working you know it is 2016.
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
either take the risk or fuk off, srs people who take fin without looking into it are morons and shouldn't bitch if they get sides they weren't aware were possible, but if you decide its worth the risk then its worth the risk, period end of story. Plenty of guys are pussies and won't take the risk and that's fine, but don't cry about going bald when it was totally preventable given you accept a 2% risk of sides, the majority of which go away after discontinuation of the drug.

Same chit with accutane but the sides are much worse. You take the risk or you don't, the payoff is so good that its worth it for guys with severe acne that doesn't respond to other treatment.
Such a stupid fukin argument, clearly you dont know what the fuk you are talking about. To begin with, Merk only updated the potential side effects and added"permanent ED even after discontinuation of drug"only on 2011. Before that, people who truly believed they were fuked by propecia were truly regarded as "tinfoil hat" autists. You cant blame people for being fuked up by a multimillion dollar manufacturer of the drug which simply forgot to put that side effect on the list.

Second of all, some people truly trust doctors with this kind of ****. Some doctors cant be arsed to do proper research on what they are prescribing and will still swear by that drug. A person may not have the time or may not even understand the risks enough to dedicate a few hours of research into the subject, so they leave that to those who supposedly are more well researched.

And lastly, nobody is arguing about whether people think the risk vs reward is worth it. If anybody decides to drink and drive to save some money thats on them, but at least they should know the possible consequences. When you have idiots coming into these kind of threads swearing that "its all in their heads!!" without even having a basic understanding on the body hormonal mechanism, thats when stupid decisions get made.

So kindly, shut the fuk up.
Originally Posted By xavengedx23⏩
Not on propecia. Hair hasn't moved back since 16 years old. Furthermore, why bother and correct anyone when you are the livid anti-propecia psychopath who comes into every propecia thread and writes conspiracy essays on it? We all know I am not going to change your mind on it anytime soon now am I? No need to waste time
lol, such a convenient response.

Dont focus on trying to correct me. I was unaware about the potential sides of propecia and got fuked up by it, and still am recovering after 2 years, and have researched for those 2 years everything about it. But at least dont call others "autists" when you are the one coming into every thread without saying anything other than insults and shouting "conspiracy!" to every corner.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Dont focus on trying to correct me. I was unaware about the potential sides of propecia and got fuked up by it, and still am recovering after 2 years, and have researched for those 2 years everything about it. But at least dont call others "autists" when you are the one coming into every thread without saying anything other than insults and shouting "conspiracy!" to every corner.
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Originally Posted By xavengedx23⏩
I for one welcome our new dink-less overlords
Never took propecia: check
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Hopefully people who are thinking about using propecia skip past your posts and invest a good amount of hours researching it.
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[QUOTE=Ken-O post_id=1442860321]S

Misc's pharmacist my ass. You are probably just someone who uses propecia, and is on denial about its possible side effects hence why you come to this forum talking **** about anybody who does experience sides. Same for that[b]Zerafian[/b]dude, seems like he's trying hard to convince himself that its all a "conspiracy" lulz.
[/B][/QUOTE]your a true idiot...its called taking proper steps before popping a pill that changes body chemistry. If you have an ounce of intelligence you learn about it before doing it. Do you understand what the world conspiracy means? Your obviously ignorant about it since you cant even respond to my comments properly and with facts.

Get your blood work, find out if your body can actually handle the medication. Also try not buying from some random online pharmacy. You and many people dont understand how pills are made and getting pills online bumps possible sides. They are mass produced and poorly made a lot of the time. Even a .1% difference in pill make up can cause an effect...that Im overly cautious about it all.

Iv spoken with well over a dozen miscers about how I prepared to take propecia 2 years ago. All the steps I took and how I slow dosed to gauge my reaction. Just because I havent experienced side effects due to properly taken steps doesnt mean I preach that its a perfectly fine pill to take. Also, Iv ALWAYS said I take propecia, half a pill in fact, I never stray from that fact.

I did not say side effects dont happen, its called my personal experience. Your 24, act like an adult and weight all the information before thinking your smart, because your not.

Ill eagerly await your childish response or googled side effects and graphs...since your obviously a typically miscer and respond as such.
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I only took it for a month and my dink has never been the same
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Originally Posted By Zerafian⏩
your a true idiot...its called taking proper steps before popping a pill that changes body chemistry. If you have an ounce of intelligence you learn about it before doing it. Do you understand what the world conspiracy means? Your obviously ignorant about it since you cant even respond to my comments properly and with facts.

Get your blood work, find out if your body can actually handle the medication. Also try not buying from some random online pharmacy. You and many people dont understand how pills are made and getting pills online bumps possible sides.

Iv spoken with well over a dozen miscers about how I prepared to take propecia 2 years ago. All the steps I took and how I slow dosed to gauge my reaction. Just because I havent experienced side effects due to properly taken steps doesnt mean I preach that its a perfectly fine pill to take. Also, Iv ALWAYS said I take propecia, half a pill in fact, I never stray from that fact.

I did not say side effects dont happen, its called my personal experience. Your 24, act like an adult and weight all the information before thinking your smart, because your not.

Ill eagerly await your childish response or googled side effects and graphs...since your obviously a typically miscer and respond as such.
What does this have to do with you? You started taking it on 2014? By then the internet was flooded of warnings against Propecia, suicides caused by side effects had already happened and young people had reported severe side effects in every single corner of the world. Congratulations for doing what any smart person would do before using a reportedly dangerous drug.

But if you went trough all that, it means you aknowledge the fact that fuking up with your body's hormones and blocking DHT goes much more farther than just "oh, it blocks DHT but raises TEST so its all good". Not everyone has the time to research it or are even aware of the potential sides. Some others are so desperate about their balding what they wont listen to anybody advicing against it and will say "its all placebo". Some people simply trust their doctors on it.

Imagine a 20 year old healthy guy that is experiencing some shedding, and visits his dumbass doctor for it. He gets prescribed a drug that he had never heard before or at least didnt even remember about it, and starts using it. Then gets side effects and gets insulted by people like you and gets blamed for not doing "the proper research". Bit unfair isnt it?


And lastly, the mechanism in which propecia affects the body isnt entirely known yet, and we expect to have more helpful information by this year or the next one, but the truth is that there is not a 100% safe way of using it. Some people use proscar everyday out of ignorance for a year, and absolutely nothing happens to them, and some others take 1mg for a month and are fuked. You took all those precautions and yeah, maybe they did help, but it doesnt mean that you would have suffered side effects if you had taken it normally, everybody reacts different to it.

Also, no need to resort to insults.
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I'm so glad I never touched this chit. I think the number of men who report a negative sexual side effect is something like 20%. Permanent ED is much rarer, way way less than 1%... But remember, those are the number of men who REPORT it.
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Originally Posted By Kojhab⏩
"TestShock" by Christopher Walker. If you seriously are having test problems and its not placebo then this is where to start. Guy's test was at 11 ng /dL. (low test is about 200-400 ng /dL)

edit:
Did he post bloodwork? Before and After?

Dude claims he went from a base level of 11 ng/dL to 1192 ng/dLnaturally, using his own program... Complete bullchit.
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
I'm so glad I never touched this chit. I think the number of men who report a negative sexual side effect is something like 20%. Permanent ED is much rarer, way way less than 1%... But remember, those are the number of men who REPORT it.
I always lol when i read post from miscer saying "i know 3 guys IRL who use it and havent said **** about any ED!! Its false!!"


Yeah, because everyone is so eager to talk about such an embarrasing condition lol. Thats the kind of **** you say to your shrink until like the 5th appointment.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Such a stupid fukin argument, clearly you dont know what the fuk you are talking about. To begin with, Merk only updated the potential side effects and added"permanent ED even after discontinuation of drug"only on 2011. Before that, people who truly believed they were fuked by propecia were truly regarded as "tinfoil hat" autists. You cant blame people for being fuked up by a multimillion dollar manufacturer of the drug which simply forgot to put that side effect on the list.

Second of all, some people truly trust doctors with this kind of ****. Some doctors cant be arsed to do proper research on what they are prescribing and will still swear by that drug. A person may not have the time or may not even understand the risks enough to dedicate a few hours of research into the subject, so they leave that to those who supposedly are more well researched.

And lastly, nobody is arguing about whether people think the risk vs reward is worth it. If anybody decides to drink and drive to save some money thats on them, but at least they should know the possible consequences. When you have idiots coming into these kind of threads swearing that "its all in their heads!!" without even having a basic understanding on the body hormonal mechanism, thats when stupid decisions get made.

So kindly, shut the fuk up.
Says its a stupid argument, proceeds to compare taking a drug with side effect risks to drunk driving, where your risk taking threatens the lives of others as much if not more then your own.

They had to add that warning to the label because a couple guys made a huge scene with their permanent sides and how it was the drug that did it (couldn't possibly be anything else given the rarity of it, had to be just the drug alone, lol just lol). Almost no one gets that kind of permanent damage, doesn't matter though if their is even one person who gets it they have to put it on the label.

Should also be said that in the studies done on Fin there was the same % of people in the placebo group as in the real Fin group that reported sides. Turns out sexual effects are particularly suseptible to the placebo effect, who would've thought.

That is one thing people who take this drug have to be aware and careful of, that they don't placebo themselves. Have to stay as unattached as possible and watch the body and its going-on's dispassionately.

There are plenty of docs who have done their research and have no problem prescribing it. Not sure why you're focusing only on the ones who have an issue with it.
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
Says its a stupid argument, proceeds to compare taking a drug with side effect risks to drunk driving, where your risk taking threatens the lives of others as much if not more then your own.

They had to add that warning to the label because a couple guys made a huge scene with their permanent sides and how it was the drug that did it (couldn't possibly be anything else given the rarity of it, had to be just the drug alone, lol just lol). Almost no one gets that kind of permanent damage, doesn't matter though if their is even one person who gets it they have to put it on the label.

Should also be said that in the studies done on Fin there was the same % of people in the placebo group as in the real Fin group that reported sides. Turns out sexual effects are particularly suseptible to the placebo effect, who would've thought.

That is one thing people who take this drug have to be aware and careful of, that they don't placebo themselves. Have to stay as unattached as possible and watch the body and its going-on's dispassionately.

There are plenty of docs who have done their research and have no problem prescribing it. Not sure why you're focusing only on the ones who have an issue with it.
You dont have to take the drug driving comparison literal. It was just an example i used. If somebody is fully aware of the potential risks, and still does it, then gets to suffer trough the unlikely risks, then yeah its all on him. Thats hardly the case with people suffering for propecia side effects, since most people that aware those sides and are even slightly intelligent, wont touch the drug with a tenth foot pole.

The bolded part of your post, its either assumptions or lies, and i can go down that route as well and counter-argument with assumptios, but then id be opening a never ending cycle of bull****.


And im not focusing on anything, quoting the many well known doctors that are against propecia was just a defense against the other idiot calling me an any other anti-propecia person an autist.


I simply want people to do someextensiveresearch on the drug before using it before making a decision. Wont try to convince anybody since anybody has different priorities, but at least they should know the risks well before taking it and dont listen to idiots who say its placebo, or a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916⏩
I'm on fin and my dink is fine
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But SRS when will people realise that if you are genetically predisposed to baldness you will lose your hair no matter what. How much hair will you lose and how soon its all about genetics.
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Idk what's Fin but I've used Anti depressants before called Lexapro, it destroyed my libido.
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Originally Posted By White-Belt⏩
Lol - explain.
Endocrinology is not exactly 2+2=4. For ex his T to DHT capabilities can be damaged permanently. Genetics come to play.
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I know a way, but I warn you OP, it's going to get a little weird..

You'll need a 13 inch wire, a rusty horseshoe, a banana, and lots and lots of olive oil.
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94⏩
So I stopped taking fin 14 months ago (I used it for 1 year), and my penis has never been the same. I can't get rock hard like I used to. Like it's always a semi.
Mentally i don't have that urge anymore. Few days ago had a girl over. On my bed making out etc, was horny but just didn't want to do it. Like I wasn't even super hard, it was so weird.

I'm eating well and working out, but I don't know how to get over this. Are there any vitamins or supplements that can help me. I'm in my early 20s, I don't want ed.
I can't even have sexors without paying so we are in the same boat OP, don't worry.

On topic about fin, did you regrow what you lost? did you recover your hair gains? was it all worth it?
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
Endocrinology is not exactly 2+2=4. For ex his T to DHT capabilities can be damaged permanently. Genetics come to play.
Also since the test isnt being broken down into DHT more of it will probably be broken down to oestrogen.
If that was to happen a similar thing that happens to supplement abusers could happen and the patients natural test could be shut down.
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Originally Posted By Kabamaro⏩
I only took it for a month and my dink has never been the same
brah I know your pain, I feel like I've lost some size down there too
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
If you are balding in the first place, there is something wrong with your health.Fix the underlaying probleminstead of takin meds
brb jumping off a cliff because its genetics



on srs note would rather get jacked/leaned/tanned/shaved than risking my dink
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I think I'll side with my doctor and stick with the fin. I tried the shaved head look and it was fukking weird, although I do have a good shaped head.
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