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post 1573776441 02-16-2019, 03:37 AM
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Damn, if this is true....that is WINNING, HARD.
post 1573777261 02-16-2019, 04:20 AM
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Thank you lord Trump for so willingly swelling the ranks of dem voters. I guess it will be worth four years of your complete idiocy since you're putting the final nails into the coffin of the Republican party. I thought I was going to have to wait until all the boomers croaked, but you've sped things up considerably.

Gracias
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Holy crap dude, Satan's huge crew.
post 1573784361 02-16-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Thank you lord Trump for so willingly swelling the ranks of dem voters. I guess it will be worth four years of your complete idiocy since you're putting the final nails into the coffin of the Republican party. I thought I was going to have to wait until all the boomers croaked, but you've sped things up considerably.

Gracias
He's actually filling his biggest campaign promise. He'll get the same voters + even more who are fed up with the Dems not protecting our borders. Most Americans want border security and walls do work. Ask Hungary.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Thank you lord Trump for so willingly swelling the ranks of dem voters. I guess it will be worth four years of your complete idiocy since you're putting the final nails into the coffin of the Republican party. I thought I was going to have to wait until all the boomers croaked, but you've sped things up considerably.

Gracias
Thank you Sillie for never disappointing.
post 1573786271 02-16-2019, 08:19 AM
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Hungary gets it. Walls work.

post 1573786571 02-16-2019, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted By zinkhan99⏩
Thank you Sillie for never disappointing.
Don't you get it? Americans want unlimited invasion. They would like entire 3rd world Central and South American countries to move right in so we can pay for their medical, housing, food and education.

Your HS kids won't have to learn a work ethic since the invaders who want to work will take care of those low wage jobs like McDonalds. No problem. Plus, we will get to practice our HS Spanish when we go through the fast food drive thru since they cannot speak a lick of English. Who cares if they are hanging around the streets in tent cities, crapping on our sidewalks. Cultural enrichment. Oh, and don't worry about the crime. Americans commit more crimes than they do so you won't even notice the small uptick.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Thank you lord Trump for so willingly swelling the ranks of dem voters. I guess it will be worth four years of your complete idiocy since you're putting the final nails into the coffin of the Republican party. I thought I was going to have to wait until all the boomers croaked, but you've sped things up considerably.

Gracias
This guy is going to become the biggest racist on the planet when one of those third worlders carjacks him at gun point.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Hungary gets it. Walls work.

Good for him srs.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Thank you lord Trump for so willingly swelling the ranks of dem voters. I guess it will be worth four years of your complete idiocy since you're putting the final nails into the coffin of the Republican party. I thought I was going to have to wait until all the boomers croaked, but you've sped things up considerably.

Gracias
LOL@old white libs still thinking these new immigrant voters are what he would assume as traditional D or even just left center voters.
post 1573794491 02-16-2019, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩



https://t.co/kwwmZwLFv8
Similar to the patriot act, 15 minutes notice to review hundreds of pages of a bill before signing.

'legislation'
MAGA One day at a time.
post 1573798461 02-16-2019, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
Similar to the patriot act, 15 minutes notice to review hundreds of pages of a bill before signing.

'legislation'
I'd be hiring someone from Evelyn Wood to read it for me and give me the details before I'd sign something I didn't read.
post 1573800991 02-16-2019, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
Similar to the patriot act, 15 minutes notice to review hundreds of pages of a bill before signing.

'legislation'
Trump could've used the Patriot Act - which has in it executive power over protecting the borders - to build the wall.
post 1573863491 02-17-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By JRMoore82⏩
Then no need to pass a “gun control executive order” if we are following the states current laws. That’s a rather silly point.
In AZ, we don't follow CA's anti-gun laws, and it would be a sad day if a gun control executive order" were passed federally based on those anti-gun laws.
Originally Posted By JRMoore82⏩
Now please find me where the constitution says “we are a nation that will not secure our borders or build a wall” or something of that effect.

You can’t. It doesn’t exist.
So what does it say about protecting our borders against invasion or "Domestic Violence"?
Originally Posted By JRMoore82⏩
I can show you where it says we have a right to bear arms.

Stop twisting ****. You’re being intellectually dishonest acting like they are the same.
Yeah, tell that to CA, NY, Chicago, MD, NJ etc. Last time I checked, they were still states in our Union.
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post 1573866731 02-17-2019, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
First, You don't know what Pelosi would do. They don't have to rescind the 2A, they can simply use laws that already exist on the local and state level applied on a federal level. Imagine CA, NY, Chicago, NJ, MD, anti-gun laws passed across the USA.

Second, it's not the content of what constitutes a National Emergency. It's the fact that if a GOP sitting President can bypass the constitutional laws to get what he wants, what is going to stop a democrat sitting president from doing the same thing for what-ever the reason in the future. Just say.. "I call a National Emergency because I don't agree with the house and the senate."
So far there's nothing unconstitutional about anything Trump has done in regards to the national emergency that we know of. Trump hasn't made or attempted to make any new law. The repeated anti-2A crap is BS because a president cannot make new law and that would require new federal law which only Congress can do.

Obama declared 13 national emergencies over various issues. Where were the meltdowns then?

Trump isn't setting any new precedent. Trump isn't changing the content of what constitutes and national emergency. That's the false propaganda of the mainstream propaganda agencies and the Dem Party and other open borders advocates.
post 1573870711 02-17-2019, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
So far there's nothing unconstitutional about anything Trump has done in regards to the national emergency that we know of. Trump hasn't made or attempted to make any new law. The repeated anti-2A crap is BS because a president cannot make new law and that would require new federal law which only Congress can do.

Obama declared 13 national emergencies over various issues. Where were the meltdowns then?

Trump isn't setting any new precedent. Trump isn't changing the content of what constitutes and national emergency. That's the false propaganda of the mainstream propaganda agencies and the Dem Party and other open borders advocates.
Previous declarations weren't to fund something congress went against. That's the big difference. Previous administrations did NOT bypass congress because the executive branch didn't get what they wanted from the house and senate.

To say this declaration is just like previous emergency declarations is night and day difference. This IS a new precedent in the fact that if the executive branch is going directly against the house. So if congress doesn't pass what a future sitting president wants on gun control, then they can just bypass it with a emergency declaration.
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post 1573871401 02-17-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Previous declarations weren't to fund something congress went against. That's the big difference. Previous administrations did NOT bypass congress because the executive branch didn't get what they wanted from the house and senate.

To say this declaration is just like previous emergency declarations is night and day difference. This IS a new precedent in the fact that if the executive branch is going directly against the house.
Congress did not pass any legislation saying that Trump couldn't secure the border with funds he has available at his discretion. They just refused to do so from their budget.
Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
So if congress doesn't pass what a future sitting president wants on gun control, then they can just bypass it with a emergency declaration.
Gun control requires new law be made, which only Congress can do. Trump isn't making new law.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Hungary gets it. Walls work.

Just chiming in to say good for him! So good to hear some politician, hell ANY politician be honest and push back against the open borders angle. Guy was respectful and well spoken, much respect to him for calling it like it is.

Shame on her for the ending "so youre saying you don't have an immigration problem right now?!" Yes bish, and we see what has happened to our neighbors screeching cultural enrichment and we want no part of it.

He should've told her to go stroll through some of the "nogo" migrant zones in France/Germany/UK as the result of what they want to push on Hungary, and come back and tell him a list of what positive, tangible things that would produce for his nation? And EU liberals feeling good about their guilt in their ivory towers doesnt count. would be fukin hialarious
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
Similar to the patriot act, 15 minutes notice to review hundreds of pages of a bill before signing.

'legislation'
Congress does not work for us, and havent for a long time. I know you know that but man does it suck seeing it in action.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
So what does it say about protecting our borders against invasion or "Domestic Violence"?
The constitution is meant to PREVENT THE FEDERAL GOVERNEMT FROM DOING CERTAIN THINGS.

Things it’s meant to prevent the governemt from doing include oppressing people’s speech and freedom and taking guns away.

There’s nothing that prevents them from building a border wall. The burden is on you. You want to stop him from building a wall and you’re using the constitution.
Yeah, tell that to CA, NY, Chicago, MD, NJ etc. Last time I checked, they were still states in our Union.
And they should go and fight ****. Laws can be made to amend the constitution and all and states can regulate from within. I don’t live in any of those **** holes but going of from how you’re posting you sound like one of those liberals who moved here to AZ for whatever failed reason and wanna bring failed policies to what once was a heavy conservative state.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Congress did not pass any legislation saying that Trump couldn't secure the border with funds he has available at his discretion. They just refused to do so from their budget.




Gun control requires new law be made, which only Congress can do. Trump isn't making new law.
The funds aren't at his to do as he pleases. It's congress'. Otherwise, why even have the house and senate pass budgets.

It doesn't have to be laws that are passed. Look at the bump-stock ban, and the reclassification of "machine guns". Basically, after march, if you have one in your possession, you are a criminal. How many in congress voted on that? NONE.
Originally Posted By JRMoore82⏩
The constitution is meant to PREVENT THE FEDERAL GOVERNEMT FROM DOING CERTAIN THINGS.

Things it’s meant to prevent the governemt from doing include oppressing people’s speech and freedom and taking guns away.

There’s nothing that prevents them from building a border wall. The burden is on you. You want to stop him from building a wall and you’re using the constitution.



And they should go and fight ****. Laws can be made to amend the constitution and all and states can regulate from within. I don’t live in any of those **** holes but going of from how you’re posting you sound like one of those liberals who moved here to AZ for whatever failed reason and wanna bring failed policies to what once was a heavy conservative state.
Depending on the wording, it can be restrictions on firearm rights, yet not removing the 2A. Just like there are countless restriction on firearms rights in different states.

I don't care about the wall, what I care about is the principle in getting the wall, or anything, and disregarding the constitution. That's the point. Trump wants to rip up the constitution to get what he wants. If he can do that, then what's to stop any future president from doing the same?
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
The funds aren't at his to do as he pleases. It's congress'. Otherwise,why even have the house and senate pass budgets.
Here's the fatal flaw in your reasoning.

Congress for the last decade has done an incredibly poor job at actually passing budgets. Instead, they just pass Continuing Resolutions, which just means agencies spend what they did the last fiscal year.

On top of that, there's a signficant amount of OCO funding in the DoD. OCO funding has no program tied to it, it's literally just a slush fund.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Here's the fatal flaw in your reasoning.

Congress for the last decade has done an incredibly poor job at actually passing budgets. Instead, they just pass Continuing Resolutions, which just means agencies spend what they did the last fiscal year.

On top of that, there's a signficant amount of OCO funding in the DoD. OCO funding has no program tied to it, it's literally just a slush fund.
Totally not arguing that congress does a piss-poor job of passing budgets, but that's what they are tasked to do. I'd be happy slash all of DoD's funding regardless of where it's at. It's a bloated mess.
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