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post 10000021672 01-23-2026, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzell
... and gave Trump the parts of greenland he wants.
What parts of Greenland did they give to Trump?
post 10000021773 01-23-2026, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
What parts of Greenland did they give to Trump?
The land we currently occupy is now sovereign US territory. And the Europeans didn't even consult the Danes when making this deal with Trump.

We annexed the parts of Greenland we want and didn't even have to pay each of their citizens 100k or whatever the payment was :)
post 10000021928 01-23-2026, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzell
The land we currently occupy is now sovereign US territory. And the Europeans didn't even consult the Danes when making this deal with Trump.

We annexed the parts of Greenland we want and didn't even have to pay each of their citizens 100k or whatever the payment was :)
What parts? Do you mean Thule Air Base that we've occupied since 1951 without any issues?

This reminds a little of putting tariffs on Canada and Mexico until they agreed to the terms of the trade agreements they'd already agreed to.
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Originally Posted By Seatard
What parts? Do you mean Thule Air Base that we've occupied since 1951 without any issues?

This reminds a little of putting tariffs on Canada and Mexico until they agreed to the terms of the trade agreements they'd already agreed to.
We were renting (Or borrowing) the land, now we own it.

This is the compromise. The alterative was that we take the whole island. Denmark didn't agree to this by the way, the europeans are overriding the Danish. So we may end up having to take the whole island at some point. We'll see.
post 10000023833 01-25-2026, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzell
We were renting (Or borrowing) the land, now we own it.

This is the compromise. The alterative was that we take the whole island. Denmark didn't agree to this by the way, the europeans are overriding the Danish. So we may end up having to take the whole island at some point. We'll see.
Lmao you're always surprising me with your amount of stupidity if you're thinking the danes will give up land or sovereignty in greenland. US is not owning anything. As Seatard said, they'll sell something to trump that already was given like trade agreements.
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Lmao you're always surprising me with your amount of stupidity if you're thinking the danes will give up land or sovereignty in greenland. US is not owning anything. As Seatard said, they'll sell something to trump that already was given like trade agreements.
If we take it what are the Danes going to do about it?
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Lmao you're always surprising me with your amount of stupidity if you're thinking the danes will give up land or sovereignty in greenland. US is not owning anything. As Seatard said, they'll sell something to trump that already was given like trade agreements.
Originally Posted By Bonobo
If we take it what are the Danes going to do about it?
Nothing, all of the current members of NATO will do absolutely nothing... If it really came down to the U.S. annexing Greenland by military force, the EU wouldn't even act in unity... You'd have members of NATO like Italy not get involved because its called self preservation... Article 5 is a meme if the U.S. isn't a part of it...

EU countries can't even use the F-35 jets without Washington D.C./Pentagon permitting them... The F35s become basically useless because software updates can be disabled, among other things that the F35 needs to be effective.

EUcel German homos like Motorcycle_Brah love to cope as if their country has any real power in the world, they dont tho.

Imagine thinking the Danes can do something to prevent the strongest military in the world from taking Greenland...

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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Lmao you're always surprising me with your amount of stupidity if you're thinking the danes will give up land or sovereignty in greenland. US is not owning anything. As Seatard said, they'll sell something to trump that already was given like trade agreements.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/01/22/predicted-greenland-deal-not-good-one/

This is from a very reputable british journalist

I'll highlight some key parts for people stuck behind a paywall



 

"On Wednesday night, Trump struck what he called a
“fantastic” deal at Davos, which apparently includes turning US military
facilities on Greenland into sovereign bases.
 

As I wrote the article last week, I was conscious of how
bitter and painful this would be for Denmark. No matter how the agreement might
be dressed up, it would still involve an independent state being bullied and
browbeaten into sacrificing sovereign territory, violating the first principle
of a peaceful and orderly world, which is that big countries cannot be allowed
to dismember small ones.

 

The territory in question might be remote and uninhabited,
but the vital principle would still be broken. Worse, all the threats have come
from Denmark’s Nato ally, the very country which is bound by treaty to go to
war to defend Danish territory. Under Trump, America is willing to grab the
very same territory that it has promised to protect.

 

So giving the United States sovereign base areas on
Greenland is, in all frankness, a terrible solution. But it might be a
necessary one for the simple reason that the alternative could be even worse.
If Trump were to use force against an ally, this would destroy Nato and release
all manner of dangers upon Europe and the wider world.

 

If Denmark makes this sacrifice, it will be acting for the
sake of the rest of us. We should be grateful."


Be grateful daddy Trump only gave you the tip little euro cuck. And make sure to behave so he doesn't come back for more.
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Originally Posted By Stizzell
We were renting (Or borrowing) the land, now we own it.

This is the compromise. The alterative was that we take the whole island. Denmark didn't agree to this by the way, the europeans are overriding the Danish. So we may end up having to take the whole island at some point. We'll see.
Great, I guess. Now we own it. Why tho? What are we going to do with it that we couldn't in the past? Srs.

The US is the most powerful country on Earth, I don't think there is any debate about that or any need to prove it by taking something we were already allowed to use.

If Trump wants to flex, go take part of Russia or China. That would be an actual accomplishment.
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Originally Posted By Seatard
Great, I guess. Now we own it. Why tho? What are we going to do with it that we couldn't in the past? Srs.

The US is the most powerful country on Earth, I don't think there is any debate about that or any need to prove it by taking something we were already allowed to use.

If Trump wants to flex, go take part of Russia or China. That would be an actual accomplishment.
We might be the most powerful but we are no longer a global super power. Greenland is needed to control our hemisphere and this means some retarded nonsense from european cucks cant threaten it in the future

Thats my guess anyway. I'd prefer to think he did it just to break down our relations with europe but probably not
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Originally Posted By Stizzell
I'd prefer to think he did it just to break down our relations with europe but probably not
Honestly, that's the most likely explanation I've seen so far.

I've been looking for some practical reason, but there doesn't have to be one.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Nothing, all of the current members of NATO will do absolutely nothing... If it really came down to the U.S. annexing Greenland by military force, the EU wouldn't even act in unity... You'd have members of NATO like Italy not get involved because its called self preservation... Article 5 is a meme if the U.S. isn't a part of it...

EU countries can't even use the F-35 jets without Washington D.C./Pentagon permitting them... The F35s become basically useless because software updates can be disabled, among other things that the F35 needs to be effective.

EUcel German homos like Motorcycle_Brah love to cope as if their country has any real power in the world, they dont tho.

Imagine thinking the Danes can do something to prevent the strongest military in the world from taking Greenland...


I know yanks always think that you have baddest and strongest military that would dominate everyone in a heartbeat.
Fact is your military got his ass beat by some sand people with AKs and some rice farmers with AKs before that.
The US can can bully some 3rd world countries like Venezuela and you yanks probably feel like some wild west cowboys because of this. But the forces of all European countries added up aren't smaller or less capable compared to US forces if you look up facts.
US warships and carrier strike groups got sunk by German, Swedish and French subs multiple times during NATO war games.

https://www.jalopnik.com/sweden-has-a-sub-thats-so-deadly-the-us-navy-hired-it-t-1649695984/

https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-pic-of-the-day-uss-enterprise-as-seen-through-periscope-of-a-german-u-boat/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2-words-explain-how-french-submarine-sank-navy-aircraft-carrier-213545

Your mighty kill switch F-35 got shot down by French raphales and German Eurofighters before

https://simpleflying.com/eurofighter-against-f-35-2025/#:~:text=During%20a%20joint%2Dtraining%20event,purpose%2Dbuilt%20for%20air%20superiority.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/how-rafale-shoot-down-f35-simulated

Also mind that air defense systems like IRIS-T SLM and SAMP/T are outperforming US air defense systems in Ukraine as stated multiple time.

https://norskluftvern.com/2026/01/02/europes-long-range-air-defense-decision-samp-t-ng-versus-next-generation-patriot/

https://norskluftvern.com/2025/07/08/iris-t-sl-vs-vl-mica-vs-camm-european-air-defense-systems-comparison/#:~:text=Executive%20Summary,integration%20versus%20national%20autonomy%20approaches.


Originally Posted By Stizzell
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/01/22/predicted-greenland-deal-not-good-one/

This is from a very reputable british journalist

I'll highlight some key parts for people stuck behind a paywall



 

"On Wednesday night, Trump struck what he called a
“fantastic” deal at Davos, which apparently includes turning US military
facilities on Greenland into sovereign bases.
 

As I wrote the article last week, I was conscious of how
bitter and painful this would be for Denmark. No matter how the agreement might
be dressed up, it would still involve an independent state being bullied and
browbeaten into sacrificing sovereign territory, violating the first principle
of a peaceful and orderly world, which is that big countries cannot be allowed
to dismember small ones.

 

The territory in question might be remote and uninhabited,
but the vital principle would still be broken. Worse, all the threats have come
from Denmark’s Nato ally, the very country which is bound by treaty to go to
war to defend Danish territory. Under Trump, America is willing to grab the
very same territory that it has promised to protect.

 

So giving the United States sovereign base areas on
Greenland is, in all frankness, a terrible solution. But it might be a
necessary one for the simple reason that the alternative could be even worse.
If Trump were to use force against an ally, this would destroy Nato and release
all manner of dangers upon Europe and the wider world.

 

If Denmark makes this sacrifice, it will be acting for the
sake of the rest of us. We should be grateful."


Be grateful daddy Trump only gave you the tip little euro cuck. And make sure to behave so he doesn't come back for more.
It's great that this guy has a magic orb about the key points of this deal but fact is, there's no details publicly known about what Trump and Rutte have talked about. The Danes today underlined that they won't give up sovereignty. That's the status rn.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/01/26/greenland-trump-nato-deal-us-bases/88357944007/
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
I know yanks always think that you have baddest and strongest military that would dominate everyone in a heartbeat.
Fact is your military got his ass beat by some sand people with AKs and some rice farmers with AKs before that.
The US can can bully some 3rd world countries like Venezuela and you yanks probably feel like some wild west cowboys because of this. But the forces of all European countries added up aren't smaller or less capable compared to US forces if you look up facts.
US warships and carrier strike groups got sunk by German, Swedish and French subs multiple times during NATO war games.

https://www.jalopnik.com/sweden-has-a-sub-thats-so-deadly-the-us-navy-hired-it-t-1649695984/

https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-pic-of-the-day-uss-enterprise-as-seen-through-periscope-of-a-german-u-boat/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2-words-explain-how-french-submarine-sank-navy-aircraft-carrier-213545

Your mighty kill switch F-35 got shot down by French raphales and German Eurofighters before

https://simpleflying.com/eurofighter-against-f-35-2025/#:~:text=During%20a%20joint%2Dtraining%20event,purpose%2Dbuilt%20for%20air%20superiority.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/how-rafale-shoot-down-f35-simulated

Also mind that air defense systems like IRIS-T SLM and SAMP/T are outperforming US air defense systems in Ukraine as stated multiple time.

https://norskluftvern.com/2026/01/02/europes-long-range-air-defense-decision-samp-t-ng-versus-next-generation-patriot/

https://norskluftvern.com/2025/07/08/iris-t-sl-vs-vl-mica-vs-camm-european-air-defense-systems-comparison/#:~:text=Executive%20Summary,integration%20versus%20national%20autonomy%20approaches.



It's great that this guy has a magic orb about the key points of this deal but fact is, there's no details publicly known about what Trump and Rutte have talked about. The Danes today underlined that they won't give up sovereignty. That's the status rn.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/01/26/greenland-trump-nato-deal-us-bases/88357944007/
Forum number three and this ****** is still crying like a little cuck bitch. Jealously off the charts. Imagine spending all this time thinking about dudes in other countries while your women are getting raped by third world ****** and your "leaders" are speedrunning at destroying what little economy remains. Sad, but that's the globohomo way.

PS ain't nobody gonna read your eurocuck retardation and cope. Has to be brutal to think that 80 years ago the actual German men almost ran the table on Europe and now the broke dick ****** like you are all that remain.
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
I know yanks always think that you have baddest and strongest military that would dominate everyone in a heartbeat.
Fact is your military got his ass beat by some sand people with AKs and some rice farmers with AKs before that.
The US can can bully some 3rd world countries like Venezuela and you yanks probably feel like some wild west cowboys because of this. But the forces of all European countries added up aren't smaller or less capable compared to US forces if you look up facts.
US warships and carrier strike groups got sunk by German, Swedish and French subs multiple times during NATO war games.

https://www.jalopnik.com/sweden-has-a-sub-thats-so-deadly-the-us-navy-hired-it-t-1649695984/

https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-pic-of-the-day-uss-enterprise-as-seen-through-periscope-of-a-german-u-boat/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2-words-explain-how-french-submarine-sank-navy-aircraft-carrier-213545

Your mighty kill switch F-35 got shot down by French raphales and German Eurofighters before

https://simpleflying.com/eurofighter-against-f-35-2025/#:~:text=During%20a%20joint%2Dtraining%20event,purpose%2Dbuilt%20for%20air%20superiority.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/how-rafale-shoot-down-f35-simulated

Also mind that air defense systems like IRIS-T SLM and SAMP/T are outperforming US air defense systems in Ukraine as stated multiple time.

https://norskluftvern.com/2026/01/02/europes-long-range-air-defense-decision-samp-t-ng-versus-next-generation-patriot/

https://norskluftvern.com/2025/07/08/iris-t-sl-vs-vl-mica-vs-camm-european-air-defense-systems-comparison/#:~:text=Executive%20Summary,integration%20versus%20national%20autonomy%20approaches.



It's great that this guy has a magic orb about the key points of this deal but fact is, there's no details publicly known about what Trump and Rutte have talked about. The Danes today underlined that they won't give up sovereignty. That's the status rn.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/01/26/greenland-trump-nato-deal-us-bases/88357944007/
insane amount of cope... srs
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Lmao love to trigger the US vatnik retards. You're probably supporting the burger Gestapo shooting your fellow citizens and rising inflation because of the dumb tariffs in your 3rd world country.

P.s. maybe compare rape crimes Germany and USA to find out about who is the real shithole. How about homocides? Lmao keep drinking the far right propaganda about europe :D
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
I know yanks always think that you have baddest and strongest military that would dominate everyone in a heartbeat.
Fact is your military got his ass beat by some sand people with AKs and some rice farmers with AKs before that.
The US can can bully some 3rd world countries like Venezuela and you yanks probably feel like some wild west cowboys because of this. But the forces of all European countries added up aren't smaller or less capable compared to US forces if you look up facts.
US warships and carrier strike groups got sunk by German, Swedish and French subs multiple times during NATO war games.

https://www.jalopnik.com/sweden-has-a-sub-thats-so-deadly-the-us-navy-hired-it-t-1649695984/

https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-pic-of-the-day-uss-enterprise-as-seen-through-periscope-of-a-german-u-boat/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2-words-explain-how-french-submarine-sank-navy-aircraft-carrier-213545

Your mighty kill switch F-35 got shot down by French raphales and German Eurofighters before

https://simpleflying.com/eurofighter-against-f-35-2025/#:~:text=During%20a%20joint%2Dtraining%20event,purpose%2Dbuilt%20for%20air%20superiority.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/how-rafale-shoot-down-f35-simulated

Also mind that air defense systems like IRIS-T SLM and SAMP/T are outperforming US air defense systems in Ukraine as stated multiple time.

https://norskluftvern.com/2026/01/02/europes-long-range-air-defense-decision-samp-t-ng-versus-next-generation-patriot/

https://norskluftvern.com/2025/07/08/iris-t-sl-vs-vl-mica-vs-camm-european-air-defense-systems-comparison/#:~:text=Executive%20Summary,integration%20versus%20national%20autonomy%20approaches.



It's great that this guy has a magic orb about the key points of this deal but fact is, there's no details publicly known about what Trump and Rutte have talked about. The Danes today underlined that they won't give up sovereignty. That's the status rn.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/01/26/greenland-trump-nato-deal-us-bases/88357944007/
What he has is sources and a reputation. What you have is cope :)

Lets hope the danes find a way to instigate a direct conflict so the german military can defeat paper tiger washington just like you defeated paper tiger moscow
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Lmao love to trigger the US vatnik retards. You're probably supporting the burger Gestapo shooting your fellow citizens and rising inflation because of the dumb tariffs in your 3rd world country.

P.s. maybe compare rape crimes Germany and USA to find out about who is the real shithole. How about homocides? Lmao keep drinking the far right propaganda about europe :D
This is just sad, delusional cope.

Get some help. srs







Remember when I told you that the EU is too weak and broke to carry on this proxy war without the U.S.? I was right, no more packages coming in from the U.S., and the EU ends support after 1 year...

Keep coping about how mighty strong the EU is, just like you were coping about the mighty German Leopard tank and how it was going to change the game in Ukraine, and it got destroyed by 10k FPV drones...

Retarded Germancel
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Damn, EU too weak to carry on this proxy war but yet 2nd best army can't make it past Pokrovsk since months and has to bomb civilian energy grid out of frustration.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
This is just sad, delusional cope.

Get some help. srs







Remember when I told you that the EU is too weak and broke to carry on this proxy war without the U.S.? I was right, no more packages coming in from the U.S., and the EU ends support after 1 year...

Keep coping about how mighty strong the EU is, just like you were coping about the mighty German Leopard tank and how it was going to change the game in Ukraine, and it got destroyed by 10k FPV drones...

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We don't call him MotorcycleRetard for nothing.
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Damn, EU too weak to carry on this proxy war but yet 2nd best army can't make it past Pokrovsk since months and has to bomb civilian energy grid out of frustration.
And the coping continues, sad



https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/10/germany-security-role-europe



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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
This is just sad, delusional cope.

Get some help. srs







Remember when I told you that the EU is too weak and broke to carry on this proxy war without the U.S.? I was right, no more packages coming in from the U.S., and the EU ends support after 1 year...

Keep coping about how mighty strong the EU is, just like you were coping about the mighty German Leopard tank and how it was going to change the game in Ukraine, and it got destroyed by 10k FPV drones...

Retarded Germancel
Originally Posted By yabbayabba
We don't call him MotorcycleRetard for nothing.
It’s really frustrating knowing the U.S. is basically the world’s sugar daddy.
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Damn, EU too weak to carry on this proxy war but yet 2nd best army can't make it past Pokrovsk since months and has to bomb civilian energy grid out of frustration.
Congrats! You are my first neg. It was very satisfying making you red. If you don’t mind could you maybe provide some feedback on the experience? Primarily was it all you dreamed it would be and how I can possibly improve any future negs? Thank you for your time.
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
Congrats! You are my first neg. It was very satisfying making you red. If you don’t mind could you maybe provide some feedback on the experience? Primarily was it all you dreamed it would be and how I can possibly improve any future negs? Thank you for your time.
He's one of those muslim 'europeans' so you can understand why he's so excited about what's going on in Europe right now, especially Germany
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Originally Posted By Stizzell
He's one of those muslim 'europeans' so you can understand why he's so excited about what's going on in Europe right now, especially Germany
post 10000027827 01-28-2026, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
Congrats! You are my first neg. It was very satisfying making you red. If you don’t mind could you maybe provide some feedback on the experience? Primarily was it all you dreamed it would be and how I can possibly improve any future negs? Thank you for your time.
Normally I don't give a fuck about the reps or negs. But since I managed to trigger you so bad that you awarded me you first neg, it's kind of satisfactory tbh.
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Originally Posted By Motorcycle_Brah
Normally I don't give a fuck about the reps or negs. But since I managed to trigger you so bad that you awarded me you first neg, it's kind of satisfactory tbh.
Cope.
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget

Turns out all the arabs had to do to win the crusades is walk to berlin and say "if you dont give me food and housing and your daughters you are a nazi bigot"

Gotta hand it to them, they figured it out in the end
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I feel for the Ukrainians. They basically have to choose between eastern block post soviet dystopia or a EU cuck dystopia with a jew president. They will either have to deal with being 2nd class citizens to Russians or be 2nd class citizens to migrants who will rape their daughters and wives. Either be poor due to Russian corrupt economic models or be poor due to taxation to oblivion to support Muslim migrants that can't assimilate.
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs
I feel for the Ukrainians. They basically have to choose between eastern block post soviet dystopia or a EU cuck dystopia with a jew president. They will either have to deal with being 2nd class citizens to Russians or be 2nd class citizens to migrants who will rape their daughters and wives. Either be poor due to Russian corrupt economic models or be poor due to taxation to oblivion to support Muslim migrants that can't assimilate.
Russians view people in ukraine and belarus as literally russian.
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs
I feel for the Ukrainians. They basically have to choose between eastern block post soviet dystopia or a EU cuck dystopia with a jew president. They will either have to deal with being 2nd class citizens to Russians or be 2nd class citizens to migrants who will rape their daughters and wives. Either be poor due to Russian corrupt economic models or be poor due to taxation to oblivion to support Muslim migrants that can't assimilate.
Originally Posted By Stizzell
Russians view people in ukraine and belarus as literally russian.
This, you don't know anything about Ukraine-Russia if you think Ukrainians are treated as 2nd class citizens... They are literally viewed as equals, it's been this way forever. I mean, if it wasn't for the Bolsheviks/USSR, "Ukrainians" would literally be calling themselves Russians... Russians/Belarusians/Ukrainians have always been together as one group. Its retarded propaganda that is encouraged by outsiders to cause division to make it seem like they aren't one people. The banderites are used as a tool to cause said division.

As far as "corrupt Russian economic models" go... Ukraine is literally 100x more corrupt than modern Russia, u w0t m8?. Russia in the 1990s was an extremely corrupt shithole, but that is no longer the case. Ukraine stayed in the state Russia was in the 90s... Russia advanced under Putin, while Ukraine didn't because of its elected officials. This is why Putin is so popular in Russia, they remember the 90s under a Western supported Yeltsin Presidency... People in the West have a blind view of modern Russia because of so much propaganda they've been fed over the decades. I'm not saying Russia is perfect, but which country isn't corrupt? I mean, look what is happening in the States right now. How many billions has Minnesota been exposed for? We're going to pretend that the elected officials in those states aren't a part of that corruption?

In every single metric, life under Putin has drastically improved for the Russian citizen. Hence his popularity. Even this image isn't 100% accurate, as these numbers are higher



This doesn't mean I'm saying Russia doesn't have its problems... But to think Ukraine would be worse off by being an ally/neutral to Russia is wrong. From the day Ukraine got its "independence" in 1993, they have be in a downward spiral ever since. And it is by their own doing that Ukraine is the way it is.

This portrait of people trying to paint Ukrainians as the helpless victims to explain why Ukraine has been a corrupt, poverty stricken country for the past 30 years of its independence is retarded and people who do that clearly bought into the propaganda.
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