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post 1518671631 09-07-2017, 02:43 AM
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She should go to jail and lose her child.
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child abuse.

at least allow the child until AFTER puberty to make a decision with a brain of its own.
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Originally Posted By riley444
I've heard puberty blockers will make the kids sterile as well, so it's not a decision to take lightly.

It's not unheard of to have a phase where a child wants to be like the opposite sex temporarily, like females wanting to be a tomboy.
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The mother should be jailed, the child taken to a proper family and hopefully somehow recover from this abuse and any officials who helped facilitate such a fuking disgraceful and abhorrent action should be jailed. Countries allowing this need to go through a 10 year period of reduced "freedoms". What else can we say misc? It's beyond all reason and logic now. There is no defense, everyone involved with this movement are human trash and the whole world would be better without them. You just know there's a whole bunch of social media crazy liberals commending her, these people are lower than a domesticated dog, in fact a bunch of dogs running their country would do a better job.
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This is why it should be illegal. 80% of children who have gender dysphoria will grow out of it by their teens. Lock her up, tour is over.
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Child abuse. She should be thrown in jail.
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100% child abuse. Both physical and mental and yet it is praised by the left. Disgusting.
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this is the problem with doing this at a young age. You should have to be over 18 for hormones or surgery. if he wants to wear a fuking dress, or call himself ashley, whatever.

If someone said they really feel like they are an amputee, it would be considered unethical to cut off their arm, no doctor would do it. We already offer that option for the penis and for estrogen, atleast wait until the person is an adult so they can fully decide for themselves.

This kid is going to be an impotent eunuch twink his whole life. congratulations
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Originally Posted By butwhowasgains
Generally, worldwide, on rough average, we dont let people:

drive till they are 16
Fuk till they are 18
Vote till they are 18
Drink till they are 19

And yet we let people take hormones that irreversibly change how their body develops when they are 12 and even younger.

Has PC gone too far?

Only time will tell.
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In his bid to revert back to his original body, he has stopped taking hispoisonbut there is uncertainty as to whether the changes are irreversible.
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She's a single mother, so she has a track record of making poor life decisions. This is just another one

The doctor who signed off on this is the real criminal here though
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Originally Posted By riley444
I've heard puberty blockers will make the kids sterile as well, so it's not a decision to take lightly.

It's not unheard of to have a phase where a child wants to be like the opposite sex temporarily, like females wanting to be a tomboy.
Absolutely, which is why it shouldn't be taken seriously until at least after puberty.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
This is right up there with the stories about "heroic single mothers".
That's all this shiit is about.. Social media "cred" for SJWs."My 12 year old son is up to a C-cup already! Fight bigotry and intolerance! Insert other catchy buzzwords here!"

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Originally Posted By EoR
The mother should be jailed, the child taken to a proper family and hopefully somehow recover from this abuse and any officials who helped facilitate such a fuking disgraceful and abhorrent action should be jailed. Countries allowing this need to go through a 10 year period of reduced "freedoms". What else can we say misc? It's beyond all reason and logic now. There is no defense, everyone involved with this movement are human trash and the whole world would be better without them. You just know there's a whole bunch of social media crazy liberals commending her, these people are lower than a domesticated dog, in fact a bunch of dogs running their country would do a better job.
^^ This. I cannot believe there are people that support this gender identification chit in young children like this. There should be a legal age for this kind of stuff. I honestly think even 18 is too low. I'd say 21 at the minimum.
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Originally Posted By butwhowasgains
Not sherrif srs

I'm fairly confident that throughout history it has been a pretty common theme for men to go to war and be slaughtered or hunt and be killed and women and children to be left without a father.

In the history of humans, our parents generations are the anomaly, not the rule.
not sherrif srs

I'm fairly confident that for most of human history children were raised by a lot more people then their bio parents, have you ever heard the phrase "it takes a village". Those kids generally grew up with multiple mother and father figures, on top of that religion was much more highly practiced and churches/religious groups all took part in raising children as a community.
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Originally Posted By JaegerBrah
This is nothing short of child abuse and the parent(s) should be charged and the kid, rehabilitated while placed in a proper family.
This. Totally unfit for parenting.
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Originally Posted By pollywogpriest
Single motherhood is a crime against humanity
Whilst I agree there should be 2 parents to raise a child the fathers are equally accountable on the firing line here not taking responsibility.
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I can't legally of age consent to putting additional test in my body... but a 10 year old can get estrogen to permanently fuk up his body and its okay?
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Originally Posted By nzgs
I would support the death penalty for the mother.
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Originally Posted By Lendogg
I can't legally of age consent to putting additional test in my body... but a 10 year old can get estrogen to permanently fuk up his body and its okay?
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When I was 8 I wanted to be an attack helicopter.. parents shouldn't make permanent life altering decisions based on what children may feel or think at the time
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From the wiki on John Money, the psychologist who "specializ[ed] in research into sexual identity and biology of gender. He was one of the first scientists to study the psychology of sexual fluidity and how the societal constructs of "gender" affect an individual."
During his professional life, Money was respected as an expert on sexual behavior, especially for allegedly demonstrating that gender was learned rather than innate. Many years later, however, it was revealed that his most famous case was fundamentally flawed. The subject was the sex reassignment of David Reimer (Born as Bruce Reimer), in what later became known as the "John/Joan" case.[13]

In 1966, a botched circumcision left eight-month-old David Reimer without a penis. Money persuaded the baby's parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimer's best interest. At the age of 22 months, Bruce underwent an orchidectomy, in which his testicles were surgically removed. He was reassigned to be raised as female and given the name Brenda. Money further recommended hormone treatment to which the parents agreed, Money then recommended a surgical procedure to create an artificial vagina, which the parents refused. Money published a number of papers reporting the reassignment as successful.

David's case came to international attention in 1997 when he told his story to Milton Diamond, an academic sexologist who persuaded Reimer to allow him to report the outcome in order to dissuade physicians from treating other infants similarly.[14] Soon after, Reimer went public with his story, and John Colapinto published a widely disseminated and influential account in Rolling Stone magazine in December 1997.[15]

In 2000, David and his twin brother (Brian) alleged that Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving "thrusting movements", with David playing the bottom role.[16] He said as a child, Money forced him go "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks", and that Money forced David to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Money reportedly took photographs of the two children doing these activities. Money's rationale for these various treatments was his belief that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".[16]

Reimer had experienced the visits to Baltimore as traumatic, and when Money started pressuring the family to bring him in for surgery during which a vagina would be constructed, the family discontinued the follow-up visits. From 22 months into his teenaged years, Reimer urinated through a hole that surgeons had placed in the abdomen. Estrogen was given during adolescence to induce breast development. Having no contact with the family once the visits were discontinued, John Money published nothing further about the case.

For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently successful female gender development and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases. Money wrote, "The child's behavior is so clearly that of an active little girl and so different from the boyish ways of her twin brother." Notes by a former student at Money's lab state that, during the follow-up visits, which occurred only once a year, Reimer's parents routinely lied to lab staff about the success of the procedure. The twin brother, Brian, later developed schizophrenia.[17]

On July 1, 2002,[18] Brian was found dead from an overdose of antidepressants. On May 4, 2004, after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and marital troubles,[19] David committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun at the age of 38. Reimer's parents have stated that Money's methodology was responsible for the deaths of both of their sons.[20]

Money claimed that media response to the exposé was due to right-wing media bias and "the antifeminist movement". He claimed his detractors believed "masculinity and femininity are built into the genes so women should get back to the mattress and the kitchen".[21] However, intersex activists also criticized Money, stating that the unreported failure had led to the surgical reassignment of thousands of infants as a matter of policy.[22] Privately, Money was mortified by the case, colleagues said, and as a rule did not discuss it.[23] Money's own views also developed and changed over the years.[1][24]
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease
From what ive seen, a lot of pro lgbtqa+ people have became doctors and psychologists/psychologists/lawyers so they can advance their people and make it the norm to tell a kid he can be whatever it wants to be.

A lot of the doctors who do the artificial vaginal surgery are trans doctors themselves lol
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Originally Posted By ironmaniac508
I don't get why this whole transgendered thing has become so widely accepted by the general public, especially when the WHO long ago declared it a mental illness.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
this is the problem with doing this at a young age. You should have to be over 18 for hormones or surgery. if he wants to wear a fuking dress, or call himself ashley, whatever.

If someone said they really feel like they are an amputee, it would be considered unethical to cut off their arm, no doctor would do it. We already offer that option for the penis and for estrogen, atleast wait until the person is an adult so they can fully decide for themselves.

This kid is going to be an impotent eunuch twink his whole life. congratulations
I don't think the child in the OP had surgery yet. It looks like this kid may have been lucky that he changed his mind when he did.

Also, I don't agree with allowing children to begin such treatment, but there are medical reasons to begin hormone therapy before puberty, so at what age it should be allowed is a complicated matter. It's obviously a difficult decision and parents should be damn careful that they aren't giving in to childish whims, as apparently happened here. The psychologist involved better know what he or she is doing before such medical decisions are made.
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