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01-09-2018, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Alchem⏩
Then where did your God pop out fromThey’re usually the type of people that say chit like “I ****ING LOVE SCIENCE!”
Like how can you even arrive at that position? the world and existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN THE WORLD JUST POPPED” “OOOO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But Atheists are just rebellious morons that don’t like religion, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
Like how can you even arrive at that position? the world and existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN THE WORLD JUST POPPED” “OOOO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But Atheists are just rebellious morons that don’t like religion, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
01-09-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Furybox⏩
Also if God was real why the hell is so much negative **** happening all around. Has he grown weak to let it happen or is he the crook who hurts people to make an example of how bad life can be, so we all continue to thank him that our life is not as bad as ppl suffering more than us.But if "I don't know" is reasonable, then (and this is my view), is it not reasonable to say:
a) humans may know much less than we think we do, and may be incapable of ever understanding the complete origins of the universe; and
b) therefore there are potentially infinite explanations and
c) therefore believing in a god which are themselves human concepts is definitely incorrect?
I.e. My view is "I don't know, but I strongly believe that there is no such thing as 'god' therefore I am atheist"
a) humans may know much less than we think we do, and may be incapable of ever understanding the complete origins of the universe; and
b) therefore there are potentially infinite explanations and
c) therefore believing in a god which are themselves human concepts is definitely incorrect?
I.e. My view is "I don't know, but I strongly believe that there is no such thing as 'god' therefore I am atheist"
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Originally Posted By MMJ11⏩
That right there is faith.Also if God was real why the hell is so much negative **** happening all around. Has he grown weak to let it happen or is he the crook who hurts people to make an example of how bad life can be, so we all continue to thank him that our life is not as bad as ppl suffering more than us.
To **** all such ****ty thoughts about a concept that was created by insecure humans I chose to an atheist
To **** all such ****ty thoughts about a concept that was created by insecure humans I chose to an atheist
01-09-2018, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By MMJ11⏩
I particularly like the idea of a omnipotent god that created the universe and for some reason goes apechit if you touch yourself in the shower. How can anyone NOT believe that?Then where did your God pop out from
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Atheist and agnostic aren't interchangeable, they both relate to different things, Atheism is about your belief in God(s) existence and Agnostics is about your knowledge of God(s) existence.
Most atheists are agnostic atheists, in that they don't believe God(s) exist but they do not know for sure (just like I don't know for sure that there's not an invisible pony dancing in front of me right now).
Most atheists are agnostic atheists, in that they don't believe God(s) exist but they do not know for sure (just like I don't know for sure that there's not an invisible pony dancing in front of me right now).
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01-09-2018, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Reflexez⏩
People just don't get it. I have an active disbelief in God(s), but that doesn't mean I could be wrong.Atheist and agnostic aren't interchangeable, they both relate to different things, Atheism is about your belief in God(s) existence and Agnostics is about your knowledge of God(s) existence.
Most atheists are agnostic atheists, in that they don't believe God(s) exist but they do not know for sure (just like I don't know for sure that there's not an invisible pony dancing in front of me right now).
Most atheists are agnostic atheists, in that they don't believe God(s) exist but they do not know for sure (just like I don't know for sure that there's not an invisible pony dancing in front of me right now).
Just like most theists are atheists as well. They just disbelieve in one less god than me.
01-09-2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By sy2502⏩
Go on...I particularly like the idea of a omnipotent god that created the universe and for some reason goes apechit if youtouch yourself in the shower.How can anyone NOT believe that?
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01-09-2018, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Alchem⏩
Idk how it happened so musta been godThey’re usually the type of people that say chit like “I ****ING LOVE SCIENCE!”
Like how can you even arrive at that position? the world and existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN THE WORLD JUST POPPED” “OOOO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But Atheists are just rebellious morons that don’t like religion, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
Like how can you even arrive at that position? the world and existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN THE WORLD JUST POPPED” “OOOO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But Atheists are just rebellious morons that don’t like religion, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
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01-09-2018, 10:46 AM
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They’re usually the type of people that say chit like “I ****ING LOVE JESUS!”
Like how can you even arrive at that position? god and his existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN GOD JUST POPPED” “OOOO GOD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But theists are just morons that don’t like the reality of dying, rotting, and being forgotten, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
Like how can you even arrive at that position? god and his existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN GOD JUST POPPED” “OOOO GOD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But theists are just morons that don’t like the reality of dying, rotting, and being forgotten, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
01-09-2018, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By MMJ11⏩
Then where did your God pop out from
It is not so much the major events as the small day-to-day decisions that map the course of our living. . . Our lives are, in reality, the sum total of our seemingly unimportant decisions and of our capacity to live by those decisions. ― Gordon B. Hinckley
01-09-2018, 10:53 AM
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lol, atheists always try to cover themselves with, 'well i don't knowfor surebut..'.
yet they pop up at every opportunity to talk down to religious people so that they can feel intellectually superior. inb4 #NotAllAtheists
i can't believe i was once 'that guy'. cringe.
yet they pop up at every opportunity to talk down to religious people so that they can feel intellectually superior. inb4 #NotAllAtheists
i can't believe i was once 'that guy'. cringe.
01-09-2018, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By LaoHu7⏩
Talk about lowering the bar on miracles.life is a miracle, and the human body (which very obviously has a spiritual being associated with it) is an amazing thing. that's all the proof i need
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01-09-2018, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By LaoHu7⏩
Eventually the sun will explode and the universe will go from being 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999999% sterile to 100% sterilelife is a miracle, and the human body (which very obviously has a spiritual being associated with it) is an amazing thing. that's all the proof i need
That's some miracle bro
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
There are militant atheists sure... just like there are militant theists.lol, atheists always try to cover themselves with, 'well i don't knowfor surebut..'.
yet they pop up at every opportunity to talk down to religious people so that they can feel intellectually superior. inb4 #NotAllAtheists
i can't believe i was once 'that guy'. cringe.
yet they pop up at every opportunity to talk down to religious people so that they can feel intellectually superior. inb4 #NotAllAtheists
i can't believe i was once 'that guy'. cringe.
Look at this thread. Which side is OP?
Not sure what your problem with "I don't know for sure, but I could be wrong"... Even if you are a theist now, I can guarantee you don't believe in every deity thus at some time you decided to disbelieve in something you can't prove doesn't exist. Once you realize why you don't believe in the other gods you will understand why I use that statement.
01-09-2018, 11:21 AM
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OP, most sane atheists spend zero time thinking about God, or his non-existence, just like most people who aren't interested in football don't go about thinking about how much they don't care about football, or telling everyone they don't care about football, or calling people who do like football idiots.
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We talking NFL or futbal?just like most people who aren't interested in football don't go about thinking about how much they don't care about football, or telling everyone they don't care about football, or calling people who do like football idiots.
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Originally Posted By KurtMussell⏩
LOL sorry but apparently I am not supposed to know for sure God doesn't exist, which is supposed to mean I have a chance to go to hell for it so no chance sorry. You can thank the god crowd for that.Go on...
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01-09-2018, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I consider myself agnostic. I think it's the only logical option.There are militant atheists sure... just like there are militant theists.
Look at this thread. Which side is OP?
Not sure what your problem with "I don't know for sure, but I could be wrong"... Even if you are a theist now, I can guarantee you don't believe in every deity thus at some time you decided to disbelieve in something you can't prove doesn't exist. Once you realize why you don't believe in the other gods you will understand why I use that statement.
Look at this thread. Which side is OP?
Not sure what your problem with "I don't know for sure, but I could be wrong"... Even if you are a theist now, I can guarantee you don't believe in every deity thus at some time you decided to disbelieve in something you can't prove doesn't exist. Once you realize why you don't believe in the other gods you will understand why I use that statement.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
I don't go out of my way to de-convert people unless they are attacking me or at the very least attempting to convert me to their belief structure.I consider myself agnostic. I think it's the only logical option.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
What makes you think most people got there from watching/reading books?
Atheism is easily as logical as just saying "IDK" one just takes a stance and the other says "Idk".
Disbelieving in supernatural entities is a very logical conclusion. I disbelieve in big foot. I find it silly to take a lesser stance and go "I do not know if big foot exists or not" sure the prevents me from potentially being wrong, but adopting a "prove it" mentality for everything prevents you from being scammed.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
There are hard and soft versions of atheismI consider myself agnostic. I think it's the only logical option.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
Most atheists I know don't try and claim any positive affirmation that there is no God. It's the lack of positive affirmation for there being a God that leads them to conclude there likely isn't, unless proven otherwise. That isn't much of a leap from agnosticism
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Originally Posted By Alchem⏩
This argument is terrible. Let's make two assumptions-They’re usually the type of people that say chit like “I ****ING LOVE SCIENCE!”
Like how can you even arrive at that position? the world and existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN THE WORLD JUST POPPED” “OOOO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But Atheists are just rebellious morons that don’t like religion, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
Like how can you even arrive at that position? the world and existence itself don’t even make sense, why is there even existence rather than non-existence? “OOO THERE WAS NOTHING, THEN THE WORLD JUST POPPED” “OOOO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY INFINITE” even though infinite regress is obviously logically unsound.
Cmon I respect people that say “I don’t know”, these are the intelligent people. But Atheists are just rebellious morons that don’t like religion, so they go the opposite way. They’re emotional and not rational.
1. That it's impossible for anything to come from nothing.
2. That nothing can have existed forever
and apply them to everythingexceptthe very thing we are trying to prove (God). Sound indeed..
The stance of agnosticism is probably the most logical, but I consider atheism more a statement of lack of belief in gods vs the strong statement "gods don't exist" . Did a deistic God set everything into motion before the Big Bang? This isn't really a scientific question and so is unanswerable imo.
In terms of burden of proof, there isn't a great answer to that question. People will falsely say you can't prove a negative (negatives are proven all the time, say in math. I can "prove" that there are NOT 100 people in the room I'm in). Which side has burden of proof though, the "God exists" crowd or "God doesn't exist" crowd? I don't think you can say God is suchhhhhhh a fantastical concept that the "God exists" crowd has burden of proof, because you are sort of presupposing God's non-existence by saying that. Perhaps we should look at this historically....i.e. which claim first when humans were evolving after becoming intelligent. Did people, out of nowhere, just start saying "God doesn't exist"......or did the "God exists" claim come first? (obviously the latter, so burden of proof on them). But even this is not a perfect answer. There is no perfect answer to the burden of proof issue.
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To be clear, since most atheists ITT apparently aren't even aware of the definition of atheism, it is an (impossible) affirmation that there is no creator.
Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2][3][4] Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist.[5][6] In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[1][2][7][8]
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Agnostic isn't logical, it absolves you of any opinion on the matter and says you're not able to use your knowledge and experience to decide what is more likely, leaving both God(s) existing or not as having an equal chance.I consider myself agnostic. I think it's the only logical option.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
However, if someone feels like they have a connection with 'God' and finds comfort in that, more power to them. They don't need some uppity little retards trying to 'disprove' the existence of their God at every turn. The only religion holding humanity back is Islam. At the very least, people should recognise the role Christianity and its core teachings has played in shaping western civilisation. The more we move away from those things, the more society seems to degenerate.
I have no problem with atheists in theory, but you have to admit that most people who actually call themselves atheist have gotten to that point from watching/reading certain people (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc, from what I've seen) and feel the need to spread their newfound knowledge, usually in a smug and annoying way.
Also, pretty sure OP is trolling, or just trying to spark a debate, lol.
It's logical to be an agnostic atheist, because believing in something which you have no proof of makes no sense at all ("faith" is totally illogical) however because you can't be 100% sure then you're not fully atheist. What people find comfort in is irrelevant when it comes to facts, a child takes comfort in a blanket and hurts no-one doing so, that doesn't mean the validity of it shouldn't be questioned as an aid for all people.
As per usual your post is filled with irony:
- You paint yourself as logical, while you don't seem to know what agnostic is beyond "I dunno if God(s) exist, that makes me the smart one".
- You're fine with people believing what they want when it comforts them, unless it's Muslims because they have more extremists on average, so it's fine for you to be an "uppity little retard" towards them.
- You ignore other religions failures, Scientology destroying families, Christianity helping spread AIDS, etc.
- You don't like smug atheists, yet there's just as many people like OP making threads like this, posting salvation threads, spamming up social media with "God Saves", people murdering other people cause they don't believe in their God, atheism being illegal, yet a bunch of fedora wearing Reddit members grind your gears.
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Originally Posted By Vito-C⏩
No it is saying I don't believe it... That is not the same as saying positive it doesn't exist.To be clear, since most atheists ITT apparently aren't even aware of the definition of atheism, it is an (impossible) affirmation that their is no creator.
Even in thebroadestsense, an absence of belief does not equate to claiming "I don't know". It leaves zero possibility for the existence of a creator. It is literally the non-existence of belief. Atheism isnotAgnosticism. Agnostics are reasonable people.
Even in thebroadestsense, an absence of belief does not equate to claiming "I don't know". It leaves zero possibility for the existence of a creator. It is literally the non-existence of belief. Atheism isnotAgnosticism. Agnostics are reasonable people.
You no doubt disbelieve in thousands of other deities past and present. Do you feel the need to state that you are not sure "Shiva" doesn't exist? Simply by believing in a certain creation story means by default you need to disbelieve in other creation stories.
Disbelieving in something because it seems improbable is a common fact of life.
If I said I was walking home and found 1 million dollars in a duffel bag today... You are probably going to "not believe me" that doesn't mean it is impossible you are wrong.
01-09-2018, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Vito-C⏩
Unfortunately, most theists lump everyone who is not religious under "atheist"To be clear, since most atheists ITT apparently aren't even aware of the definition of atheism, it is an (impossible) affirmation that there is no creator.
Even in thebroadestsense, an absence of belief does not equate to claiming "I don't know". It leaves zero possibility for the existence of a creator. It is literally the non-existence of belief. Atheism isnotAgnosticism. Agnostics are reasonable people.
Even in thebroadestsense, an absence of belief does not equate to claiming "I don't know". It leaves zero possibility for the existence of a creator. It is literally the non-existence of belief. Atheism isnotAgnosticism. Agnostics are reasonable people.
01-09-2018, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Reflexez⏩
I don't care about anything you have to say.Agnostic isn't logical, it absolves you of any opinion on the matter and says you're not able to use your knowledge and experience to decide what is more likely, leaving both God(s) existing or not as having an equal chance.
It's logical to be an agnostic atheist, because believing in something which you have no proof of makes no sense at all ("faith" is totally illogical) however because you can't be 100% sure then you're not fully atheist. What people find comfort in is irrelevant when it comes to facts, a child takes comfort in a blanket and hurts no-one doing so, that doesn't mean the validity of it shouldn't be questioned as an aid for all people.
As per usual your post is filled with irony:
- You paint yourself as logical, while you don't seem to know what agnostic is beyond "I dunno if God(s) exist, that makes me the smart one".
- You're fine with people believing what they want when it comforts them, unless it's Muslims because they have more extremists on average, so it's fine for you to be an "uppity little retard" towards them.
- You ignore other religions failures, Scientology destroying families, Christianity helping spread AIDS, etc.
- You don't like smug atheists, yet there's just as many people like OP making threads like this, posting salvation threads, spamming up social media with "God Saves", people murdering other people cause they don't believe in their God, atheism being illegal, yet a bunch of fedora wearing Reddit members grind your gears.
It's logical to be an agnostic atheist, because believing in something which you have no proof of makes no sense at all ("faith" is totally illogical) however because you can't be 100% sure then you're not fully atheist. What people find comfort in is irrelevant when it comes to facts, a child takes comfort in a blanket and hurts no-one doing so, that doesn't mean the validity of it shouldn't be questioned as an aid for all people.
As per usual your post is filled with irony:
- You paint yourself as logical, while you don't seem to know what agnostic is beyond "I dunno if God(s) exist, that makes me the smart one".
- You're fine with people believing what they want when it comforts them, unless it's Muslims because they have more extremists on average, so it's fine for you to be an "uppity little retard" towards them.
- You ignore other religions failures, Scientology destroying families, Christianity helping spread AIDS, etc.
- You don't like smug atheists, yet there's just as many people like OP making threads like this, posting salvation threads, spamming up social media with "God Saves", people murdering other people cause they don't believe in their God, atheism being illegal, yet a bunch of fedora wearing Reddit members grind your gears.
Don't bother quoting me ever again.
01-09-2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Vito-C⏩
Huh? Sure someone can still not believe in a creator, and yet the creator still exist. Lol. These are totally different things. I can say a red ball exists in my hand right now.....you can either not believe or believe it, but it doesn't change the fact that it might actually be in my hand. You would test statements of belief, btw, with something like a lie-detector. You would not test statements of the thing actually existing with a lie-detector.To be clear, since most atheists ITT apparently aren't even aware of the definition of atheism, it is an (impossible) affirmation that there is no creator.
Even in thebroadestsense, an absence of belief does not equate to claiming "I don't know". It leaves zero possibility for the existence of a creator. It is literally the non-existence of belief. Atheism isnotAgnosticism. Agnostics are reasonable people.
Even in thebroadestsense, an absence of belief does not equate to claiming "I don't know". It leaves zero possibility for the existence of a creator. It is literally the non-existence of belief. Atheism isnotAgnosticism. Agnostics are reasonable people.
Anyway to your point about definition....you realize definitions are in general SUBJECTIVE. If anything, "atheism" or "a-theism" means "not theism", so not(A belief in gods), so simply the lack of belief in gods. Totally different than the strong statement "gods don't exist".
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