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post 1543106811 02-07-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Yes, I believe those would be the extreme minority
Television evangelists
Suicide bombers
Westboro baptists
Amish
Utah

How come these “minorities” just roll off the tongue with minimal thought
post 1543106871 02-07-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Dunno

Is it?

Why is it arrogance to do the right thing from an internal belief system than an external one? Don’t need a fear of some external being to make me act morally, do you?
Just a thought. I don't expect to change your mind. Just some food for thought.

I would think that if someone wanted to murder someone, but didn't, because their faith forbade it, I would think religion has done its job.

Atheistic regimes have accounted for far more deaths than all the religious wars combined.
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I dunno that story where the head honcho has his son sacrificed, yeah no thanks jeff I will pass.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
Just a thought. I don't expect to change your mind. Just some food for thought.

I would think that if someone wanted to murder someone, but didn't, because their faith forbade it, I would think religion has done its job.

Atheistic regimes have accounted for far more deaths than all the religious wars combined.
Im firmly with Sy here ...if religion is all that sits between you and atrocities I would drive you to church too

Your last comment could do with some actual sourcing (calling bullchit)
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
Just a thought. I don't expect to change your mind. Just some food for thought.

I would think that if someone wanted to murder someone, but didn't, because their faith forbade it, I would think religion has done its job.

Atheistic regimes have accounted for far more deaths than all the religious wars combined.
Religion never really stopped anybody from doing something they were going to do anyway. People either look for forgiveness later, or do the mental gymnastics required to justify it.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
thats cool i live in a red ass state so i want my kids to be able to blend in if they want to and claim protestant if it suits them. my wife a yankee and she will tell people to they face she's a atheist. i was always afraid of people's reaction, srs.

my ex gf used to pray for me and cry and shiit and i would just lolbut also be afraid a little.
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For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."


Remeber, Jesus did not come to condemn the world. He came to save it.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
Just a thought. I don't expect to change your mind. Just some food for thought.

I would think that if someone wanted to murder someone, but didn't, because their faith forbade it, I would think religion has done its job.

Atheistic regimes have accounted for far more deaths than all the religious wars combined.
So if I, an atheist, instil in my children that killing is wrong and they don't go on to kill anyone because of my teachings then atheism has done it's job too. You should not falsely conflate atheist regimes with atheists who bring their children up to be good citizens.
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post 1543107521 02-07-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
"Romans 1:20

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."


Remeber, Jesus did not come to condemn the world. He came to save it.
im sayin i was afraid my religious girlfriend might murder me in my sleep because she thought i had a demon in me. she was also on a mild ssri.
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post 1543107721 02-07-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Religion never really stopped anybody from doing something they were going to do anyway.
Personal experience, my life would have been a lot different if I didn't have a close relationships with God. Soooooo many things.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Television evangelists
Suicide bombers
Westboro baptists
Amish
Utah

How come these “minorities” just roll off the tongue with minimal thought
Oh the Amish certainly don't do it out of fear - there is a decent amount of atheist Amish
post 1543107841 02-07-2018, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
Personal experience, my life would have been a lot different if I didn't have a close relationships with God. Soooooo many things.
You say God, I say meditation. We both mean the same thing.

Not discounting your experiences. Everything we feel is real to us.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
Personal experience, my life would have been a lot different if I didn't have a close relationships with God. Soooooo many things.
Well that's great for you. But I hope you're not assuming that atheists who hurt others would not have hurt had they had God in their lives. Because that would be a huge leap.
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post 1543107881 02-07-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
"Romans 1:20

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."


Remeber, Jesus did not come to condemn the world. He came to save it.
Yaknow when you look at that quote with a truly open and critical mind, it means fuk all

What it is, what it shall be, what it was
post 1543108351 02-07-2018, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Television evangelists
Suicide bombers
Westboro baptists
Amish
Utah

How come these “minorities” just roll off the tongue with minimal thought
Forgot to add on my earlier response - even among them I don't believe the majority are driven by fear.
post 1543109141 02-07-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Im firmly with Sy here ...if religion is all that sits between you and atrocities I would drive you to church too

Your last comment could do with some actual sourcing (calling bullchit)
I think it's fair to ask for sources:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass...munist_regimes

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[2][dubious ] There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

Compare to the Spanish Inquisition:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass...munist_regimes

"According to Llorente, over the course of its history, the Inquisition processed a total of 341,021 people, of whom at least ten percent (31,912) were executed. He wrote, "To calculate the number of victims of the Inquisition is the same as demonstrating, in practice, one of the most powerful and effective causes of the depopulation of Spain."[34]The principal modern historian of the Inquisition was an American from Philadelphia, from a Quaker family, Henry Charles Lea (1825 - 1909), author of History of the Inquisition of Spain, Vol 1. (1888) considered that these totals, not based on rigorous statistics, were very exaggerated."

"It is likely that the total would be between 3,000 and 5,000 executed. "
post 1543109651 02-07-2018, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
I think it's fair to ask for sources:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass...munist_regimes

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[2][dubious ] There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

Compare to the Spanish Inquisition:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass...munist_regimes

"According to Llorente, over the course of its history, the Inquisition processed a total of 341,021 people, of whom at least ten percent (31,912) were executed. He wrote, "To calculate the number of victims of the Inquisition is the same as demonstrating, in practice, one of the most powerful and effective causes of the depopulation of Spain."[34]The principal modern historian of the Inquisition was an American from Philadelphia, from a Quaker family, Henry Charles Lea (1825 - 1909), author of History of the Inquisition of Spain, Vol 1. (1888) considered that these totals, not based on rigorous statistics, were very exaggerated."

"It is likely that the total would be between 3,000 and 5,000 executed. "
What was the difference in world population in those times?
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worst thing is nobody even expected the spanish inquisition
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
You say God, I say meditation. We both mean the same thing.

Not discounting your experiences. Everything we feel is real to us.
I did meditation. It was whoa. Amazing.

But God, well, there are no words to describe how awesome.

For me, there is nothing on earth that comes remotely close to what you can achieve spiritually with God.

To each his own.
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Everyone just remember before responding in this thread that OP thinks the world is flat.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
Everyone just remember before responding in this thread that OP thinks the world is flat.
But OP never came back so it’s a pretty interesting thread so far
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
worst thing is nobody even expected the spanish inquisition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJXHY2OXGE
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post 1543109981 02-07-2018, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
Everyone just remember before responding in this thread that OP thinks the world is flat.
And that ET is real, lol.
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post 1543110071 02-07-2018, 12:48 PM
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In to know which parents not to let my kids go to their house for sleepovers
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Originally Posted By chickenbroc****
In to know which parents not to let my kids go to their house for sleepovers
Don't want your kids eating up all my secular food anyway.
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My parents are atheists.
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Originally Posted By chickenbroc****
In to know which parents not to let my kids go to their house for sleepovers
I choose which friends my kids can go to sleepovers with based on an evaluation of their parents. Whether they are religious or not does not matter to me. Does it to you?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
What was the difference in world population in those times?
Even with comparing numbers relative to population, at that, you get the same result, maybe worse:

If the exaggerated estimates are true, then only 10% of the people processed by the inquisionwere executed, compared to say, Cambodia, where 25% of theentire population was killed.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy
I think it's fair to ask for sources:

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Fair enough but you seem to have forgotten

The crusades 1-3 million over 3 centuries

Jihad ..countless millions over centuries

The holocaust ...millions

Armenian genocide

Native American genocide

French Protestant vs catholics

Witch hunts

Etc etc
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Wasn't religious early in life and honestly I was a bad person. Am better know not out of fear though. Why be good if you don't have to though?
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah
Wasn't religious early in life and honestly I was a bad person. Am better know not out of fear though. Why be good if you don't have to though?
Because it feels better than being a prick with the added bonus of having people like you and not going to jail.
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