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Thread: February 15, 2019 is the official day the United States died

post 1573712191 02-15-2019, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
And how does this affect the STATE they are in specifically?

As shown by california, they can deny law and claim to not work with ICE to deport illegals but that was their choice.

That doesn't stop the state from enforcing their laws and nothing in this bill stops it either.... You wanna try reading it again?
States. Do. Not. Deport. People.

The. Federal. Government. Does.

The. Federal. Government. Can. No. Longer. Deport. Anyone. Who. Lives. In. The. Same. Residence. As. A. Child. Or. Who. Brings. A. Child. Into. The. Country.
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson⏩
Before I jump in, is this as bad as it looks on paper? Whose vote has Trump lost for 2020 here?
I mean, what's the alternative though? I imagine he'll lose people who just decide to stay home.

But the Democrats don't currently have a single candidate who should be taken seriously.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Isn’t the stuff in this bill only temporary until the end of September? I think I heard them say something like this yesterday.
It's the slippery slope technique they use in the EU...

There will be some distraction in Sept with the media and they will amend it and it will slip through

They push to see what people will tolerate, people forget about it then they push it further until all liberty stripped away.

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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
States. Do. Not. Deport. People.

The. Federal. Government. Does.

The. Federal. Government. Can. No. Longer. Deport. Anyone. Who. Lives. In. The. Same. Residence. As. A. Child. Or. Who. Brings. A. Child. Into. The. Country.
Wrong again.
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post 1573712761 02-15-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
Again, what in the hell are you talking about?

I used California as one example. Every illegal alien in the country (all 50 states) has full access to education and health care services paid for by American citizens. Texas school are filled with illegals. Arizona schools have tons of illegals.

Trump just signed a bill that turned the entire country into a "sanctuary state".
"The Senate swiftly passed the legislation on an 83-to-16 vote, and the House followed suit hours later, approving the bill 300 to 128 — veto-proof margins in both chambers."

He could not veto the bill. Don't blame Trump for this terrible bill, but the republican law makers that signed it.
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post 1573712961 02-15-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
Wrong again.
Strong argument, kiddo.

https://www.usatoday.com/pages/inter...ion-explainer/
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We need a new 3rd party

One that allows the public execution of traitors. Plenty of candidates on both sides
post 1573713111 02-15-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Cchrisrun⏩
"The Senate swiftly passed the legislation on an 83-to-16 vote, and the House followed suit hours later, approving the bill 300 to 128 — veto-proof margins in both chambers."

He could not veto the bill. Don't blame Trump for this terrible bill, but the republican law makers that signed it.
Of course he can veto the bill. The house and senate would have to pass it *again* to override the veto. Republicans only got as many votes as they did because Trump supported it and said he would sign it. If it was vetoed, the bill would be dead.

Yeah, don't blame Trump for telling congress he supports the bill and wants it passed.

Don't blame Trump for signing the bill into law.

Don't blame Trump that he did a total 180 on illegal immigration and granted full amnesty to illegals.
post 1573713541 02-15-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
Strong argument, kiddo.

https://www.usatoday.com/pages/inter...ion-explainer/
strong knowledge of state law little guy...

"Iowa required state law enforcement to comply with federal immigration requests, and Tennessee barred state or local government entities or officials from adopting or enacting sanctuary policies. In Oregon, a ballot initiative to repeal the state’s sanctuary laws failed 2 to 1. "

As i said, the STATE says what they will do, NOT the federal government.

Try reading it again.
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post 1573713981 02-15-2019, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
The US is no longer a sovereign nation. Most of us have seen this coming for a long time, but today was the official day the US went out with a whimper. Donald Trump, of all people, just signed the country away forever. The US is no longer a sovereign country. No sense in wasting time following politics. It's over. Democrats won. The US will be California, with the same demographics and poverty rates.


The bill he signed:

- Grants amnesty to anyone who enters the US with a minor, essentially legalizing (and encouraging) child trafficking.

- Grants amnesty to any illegal alien who lives in the same residence as a minor.

- Grants full VETO power to mayors of sanctuary cities to block any construction of new border barrier.

- Makes his "emergency declaration" illegal and in violation of US law, virtually ensuring it gets defeated in the courts.

- Makes a "wall" completely useless. Illegals can just flood through ports of entry with minors and be granted amnesty.
None of this is true, but carry on.
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post 1573714551 02-15-2019, 10:38 AM
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post 1573714771 02-15-2019, 10:41 AM
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"A federal law applies to the nation as a whole and to all 50 states whereas state laws are only in effect within that particular state. ... Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you're in the state you can follow the state law, but the feds can decide to stop you"

Except in this case it would be the opposite, the federal government would choose to not act.

But "the funds in this act" have nothing to do with state money being used for state business.

Where is the money in this act going btw?
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post 1573714921 02-15-2019, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
"A federal law applies to the nation as a whole and to all 50 states whereas state laws are only in effect within that particular state. ... Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you're in the state you can follow the state law, but the feds can decide to stop you"

Except in this case it would be the opposite, the federal government would choose to not act.

But "the funds in this act" have nothing to do with state money being used for state business.
States. Do. Not. Deport. People.

The. Federal. Government. Does.

The. Federal. Government. Can. No. Longer. Deport. Anyone. Who. Lives. In. The. Same. Residence. As. A. Child. Or. Who. Brings. A. Child. Into. The. Country.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
Your country (like many others) has been run by Israel and Zionist interests since 1982 my friend, embrace the spiritual battle and make ready to claim your ancestral homelands
How far back are we talkin with ancestral? I'd rather just fight to keep the place where my family has been for the past 4 generations from going to chit. I wouldn't mind Scotland if they would let me keep my guns and not arrest me for making fun of trannies. There are more Scottish descended Americans than actual Scots at this point so we could just do what the Mexicans did to California and all move in and change the voting patterns that way.
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post 1573715021 02-15-2019, 10:44 AM
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None of this is true, but carry on.
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
strong knowledge of state law little guy...

"Iowa required state law enforcement to comply with federal immigration requests, and Tennessee barred state or local government entities or officials from adopting or enacting sanctuary policies. In Oregon, a ballot initiative to repeal the state’s sanctuary laws failed 2 to 1. "

As i said, the STATE says what they will do, NOT the federal government.

Try reading it again.
You didn't even read what you just posted, much less understand it.

Where is Tennessee going to deport people? To Nevada? And who is going to be in charge of these deportations? Local police? State troopers? You have no clue what you are talking about.
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
You didn't even read what you just posted, much less understand it.

Where is Tennessee going to deport people? To Nevada? And who is going to be in charge of these deportations? Local police? State troopers? You have no clue what you are talking about.
You seem lost again.

The state would give them to federal government to do with as they are required. They would be MOVED from the state as they deem fit....
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
It's so bad Trump tried to hide the fact he signed it. Trump just ensured a blue wave in every election from now on.
He also set the precedent that campaign promises that can't get through Congress can be declared a national emergency, paving the way for President AOC to declare national emergencies for gun control, nationalized healthcare, free college, wealth seizure from the rich, and a whole host of other stupid socialist crap that would never pass Congress. So there's that, too.
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Do common sense people agree that this bill was written by those who are against the wall, against the ability to use a national emergency to fund/build it and for granting access for mass amounts illegal immigrants with all types of loopholes on what ICE will be allowed to do.

Knowing that to be factual, then common sense must dictate that there will be language within this bill that not only accomplishes all that, but more importantly, language meant specifically written for the SC to not allow Trump to declare a national emergency as his signing of the bill agrees to just that.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Do common sense people agree that this bill was written by those who are against the wall, against the ability to use a national emergency to fund/build it and for granting access for mass amounts illegal immigrants with all types of loopholes on what ICE will be allowed to do.

Knowing that to be factual, then common sense must dictate that there will be language within this bill that not only accomplishes all that, but more importantly, language meant specifically written for the SC to not allow Trump to declare a national emergency as his signing of the bill agrees to just that.
Illegals are deported all the time that will just walk back across in groups, they take the chance over and over again, however many times it takes.

Some people come here and are deported 10-20 times and just walk back over...

This is no longer about illegals being given to ice simply to be given a slap on the wrist so they can walk across again.

The only alternative, undocumented or not is to actually serve prison time for their crimes rather than be sent back, something the department of homeland security has no say over... nor will these funds go to the prisons that house them.

If the law to give illegals over to the federal government are no longer in place then these illegals are going to spending a lot of time in prison instead of walking across the border.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
He also set the precedent that campaign promises that can't get through Congress can be declared a national emergency, paving the way for President AOC to declare national emergencies for gun control, nationalized healthcare, free college, wealth seizure from the rich, and a whole host of other stupid socialist crap that would never pass Congress. So there's that, too.
Please declare a national emergency on guns.... Give those 300 million gun owners a direct reason to be pissed. It's what the country needs
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
A nation with most powerful and advanced military in the history of mankind ended without a single shot ever being fired.
It's the only way the US can fall per our founders warnings.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
He also set the precedent that campaign promises that can't get through Congress can be declared a national emergency, paving the way for President AOC to declare national emergencies for gun control, nationalized healthcare, free college, wealth seizure from the rich, and a whole host of other stupid socialist crap that would never pass Congress. So there's that, too.
Border control is a national security issue, and exclusively handled on the Federal level. There is no real argument that the border situation isn't a national emergency, and been that for a long time.

Guns right is in the Constitution. National Healthcare isn't an emergency issue. Nor is free college.
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I couldn’t care for the little concession he made.

Instead of trading full daca for the full wall we on need to do that. He fulfilled his campaign of building the wall.

Also a national emergency overrides anything on the bill so he can build wall anywhere’s.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
He also set the precedent that campaign promises that can't get through Congress can be declared a national emergency, paving the way for President AOC to declare national emergencies for gun control, nationalized healthcare, free college, wealth seizure from the rich, and a whole host of other stupid socialist crap that would never pass Congress. So there's that, too.
I think the precedent was already there. If a President feels it's an emergency then it is. There is all the fine print but it relies on an expectation of sound reason by the President to initiate. Hard to stop a shell game with government funds, but at some point it's self defeating becasue it's not supported by new funding or codified in law.

At this point, to me, it's no longer that interesting. It's just another bloated federal government construction project that will be about as useful as all the other pet projects we piss away money on. Trumpers act like a border wall will be worthy of a yearly pilgrimage to kneel before while the hundreds of miles of it we've had for decades sits alone rusting in the heat.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
I mean, what's the alternative though? I imagine he'll lose people who just decide to stay home.

But the Democrats don't currently have a single candidate who should be taken seriously.
2020 is a toss up and he can get secondwind from 2016 but 2024 is where it should be impossible to get a so-called America First POTUS due to demographs and the shifting political waters in the US. The curtain has been raised, the lines drawn and the waters muddied to a point everybody is just itching to get at their own side, let alone the opposition.

The Dems & RINOs dont need to be taken seriously. All they're doing is transitioning the country into something so terrible I doubt anybody has an idea what will become of it.

Cant even get people to agree on what a wall with security personnel can actually do let alone national issues with immigrants from SA, Africa and the ME being bussed and flown in by the thousands every month. An object cannot stop a country's people and its leaders committing national suicide if they just go around it.
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson⏩
Before I jump in, is this as bad as it looks on paper? Whose vote has Trump lost for 2020 here?
Vote dem vs vote Trump again? Choice is easy
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
This was written in regards to the "separation" nonsense. Its not amnesty or anything of the sort.

There will a lot in this bill you and I won't like, because frankly Congress is filled with 95% of people you and I don't like. If people don't like it....then they need to stop voting for these politicians every single time. Its easy to yell "Shut it down" without any longterm plan, that take no thought.
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