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09-07-2017, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted By ironmaniac508⏩
Especially for young men like him who must have strong male role models. Once a boy hits around the age of puberty he needs to go live with his father or a male relative at the very least instead of his single mom.Single motherhood is the biggest threat to American youth, seriously, and I'm disgusted with how that is slowly becoming more readily acceptable and the norm in non black America.
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Originally Posted By Vampirelol⏩
LOLImagine that, kid hits puberty and wants to wank his tallywhacker
Wanks tallywhacker crew
But yeah, that's child abuse and I feel bad for him.
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09-07-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted By RTone⏩
Most definitely! Mom is great for plenty of things, but can't give you the male perspective when you're going through puberty. This is why the family unit is so important to society.Especially for young men like him who must have strong male role models. Once a boy hits around the age of puberty he needs to go live with his father or a male relative at the very least instead of his single mom.
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09-07-2017, 07:37 AM
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I read story after story and never read about the father figure in the story. Has anyone else noticed that? As a Christian, the Church is always bringing home how important the mother & father is to a child's upbringing. We have a 2 yr old at home & it's very evident that she's paying attention to what I do & what my wife does.
The statistics in this article really hit it home.
https://www.fatherhood.gov/content/dad-stats
The statistics in this article really hit it home.
https://www.fatherhood.gov/content/dad-stats
09-07-2017, 01:55 PM
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How is a doctor allowed to give a child, hormones?
09-07-2017, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By HoganIsGOAT⏩
The guy I work with, his wife is in denial that they're son will be jerking it in about 12-13 years, he even told her, when it happens, he'll be the one to talk to him about it, and for her to not say anything.Most definitely! Mom is great for plenty of things, but can't give you the male perspective when you're going through puberty. This is why the family unit is so important to society.
09-07-2017, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I'd actually like to know that too.. Especially the opposite sex hormones. Pretty sure they'd tell you to fukoff right quick if you wanted to give a 12 year old boy testosterone, so WTF is with giving them estrogen?How is a doctor allowed to give a child, hormones?

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09-07-2017, 06:13 PM
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Yeah if they're born intersex or whatever, I get the idea of assigning a gender and applying hormones to go with it. But taking a 12 year old's word for it that they identify other than their birth gender and then going through with drastically life-changing treatment on that basis seems crazy to me. It's too young to make those kind of choices, you can't vote or join the Army or have a drink, but you can make a one-way decision to grow breasts / a lumberjack beard?
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09-07-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Their cover I'm sure is that they are treating illness. For true transgenders, assuming such a thing exists, the treatment is gender reassignment, hormone therapy and surgery. Can we identify someone as being truly transgender at a very young age? I don't know who can answer that.I'd actually like to know that too.. Especially the opposite sex hormones. Pretty sure they'd tell you to fukoff right quick if you wanted to give a 12 year old boy testosterone, so WTF is with giving them estrogen?

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09-07-2017, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By scheal⏩
Honestly, I'm conflicted. Not in myself, of course, all gay man here. Born that way. And I think an adult who makes that final decision for themself should be given enough credit for having not made the decision lightly.Why do we never see moksha and silly will commenting on threads like this? It would be enlightening to hear the liberal perspective on this matter
But to let a child who doesn't have the wit to cross the street themselves make such a decision? I just don't think so. You better be pretty damn sure and look at your own motivations before you put your child, and yourself, through a lifetime of regret.
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Originally Posted By PSToolman⏩
You would be.Proud of that.
09-07-2017, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By PSToolman⏩
My point exactly.. so why are they doing it?Their cover I'm sure is that they are treating illness. For true transgenders, assuming such a thing exists, the treatment is gender reassignment, hormone therapy and surgery. Can we identify someone as being truly transgender at a very young age? I don't know who can answer that.
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09-07-2017, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Theythink they can answer the questions. I'm with you. This is very misguided. But then, what's past is prologue and we never know what happened for someone to get to that point. We only see what happens after the fact. An adult going through this process is more predictable, but with children, as this case shows, it's too uncertain.My point exactly.. so why are they doing it?
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09-07-2017, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By scheal⏩
I already posted, so there's one liberal's perspective.Why do we never see moksha and silly will commenting on threads like this?It would be enlightening to hear the liberal perspective on this matter
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09-07-2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Of course I'm proud that I can finally live openly as myself and marry the man I love. I'm proud that we achieved this on my watch. I'm proud that the transgender community is beginning to feel that same liberty. No shame in any of this.You would be.
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Originally Posted By PSToolman⏩
It mystifies the living shiit out of me. I mean any boy or man who has ever gone through puberty can tell you that *things* didn't really start happening until they were ~12-13 years old. So then WTF give them hormone blockers and estrogen..? Like I said there is no logical reason to give them test either. Its fuking bizarre.Theythink they can answer the questions. I'm with you. This is very misguided. But then, what's past is prologue and we never know what happened for someone to get to that point. We only see what happens after the fact. An adult going through this process is more predictable, but with children, as this case shows, it's too uncertain.
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09-07-2017, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I have to leave room. I can't agree that it's "just because", not always. If your child is suffering and you'reconvincedthat the this is the best course of treatment, it's hard to fault them following it.It mystifies the living shiit out of me. I mean any boy or man who has ever gone through puberty can tell you that *things* didn't really start happening until they were ~12-13 years old. So then WTF give them hormone blockers and estrogen..? Like I said there is no logical reason to give them test either. Its fuking bizarre.
Brb gonna turn my dog into a cat just because
Brb gonna turn my dog into a cat just because
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09-07-2017, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By PSToolman⏩
I'm gonna have to disagree there.. Like I said *things* don't start happening in boys until around the age of 12-13. Physical things... We've all been there. And we also know hormones are the reason for that.I have to leave room. I can't agree that it's "just because", not always. If your child is suffering and you'reconvincedthat the this is the best course of treatment, it's hard to fault them following it.
So then IF a child is suffering for some reason before those physical *things* start happening, then chances are it's mental and not hormonal.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Fair enough.I'm gonna have to disagree there.. Like I said *things* don't start happening in boys until around the age of 12-13. Physical things... We've all been there. And we also know hormones are the reason for that.
So then IF a child is suffering for some reason before those physical *things* start happening, then chances are it's mental and not hormonal.
So then IF a child is suffering for some reason before those physical *things* start happening, then chances are it's mental and not hormonal.
For a bigot.

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Originally Posted By PSToolman⏩
Reps for calling me a bigot.Fair enough.
For a bigot.

For a bigot.


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Originally Posted By MajesticBeat⏩
hold onto your jimmiesHoly phuck. You're on to something. Rarely hear about females injecting test to turn male.
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Originally Posted By PSToolman⏩
Yeah....what can go wrong?I have to leave room. I can't agree that it's "just because", not always. If your child is suffering and you'reconvincedthat the this is the best course of treatment, it's hard to fault them following it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.red...nother_reason/
I just watched the new trailer for "I am Jazz". Jazz is seeing doctors to inquire about bottom surgery. However, in the trailer two of the doctors say pretty disturbing things and you see Jazz is visibly upset. One doc says something like "the puberty blockers are amazing, revolutionary, but the problem is they don't leave much material to work with down there" (by the way, poor Jazz, how mortifying to have your private doc appointment on TV). The second doctor is blunter and says "because of the blockers I can't do the surgery- I can't do the surgery you want".
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Originally Posted By The-BeAsT⏩
Nothing wrong with this according to PSToolman...hold onto your jimmies
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