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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
Even with comparing numbers relative to population, at that, you get the same result, maybe worse:

If the exaggerated estimates are true, then only 10% of the people processed by the inquisionwere executed, compared to say, Cambodia, where 25% of theentire population was killed.
So what you're saying is that both religious and non-religious people can be evil, yes? Which is what I have found to be true in modern life.
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post 1543111001 02-07-2018, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By YodasKB⏩
My parents are atheists.
What belief did you choose or were chosen into?
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Guys guys, let's not fight over who killed more people! Everybody is good at killing people! Humanns gon human forever mane.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Because it feels better than being a prick with the added bonus of having people like you and not going to jail.
so you're being good out of fear of jail? Doesn't sound like you're naturally a good person. Why does being a prick bother you? You were probably taught that.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
my thing (our thing, me and my wife) is that i didn't want my boys to hear every bible story from some school mate when they hit 8 years old and get roasted bc they dunno who zacchaeus is or wat a burnin bush is and chit. so for that reason i read simple kids bible stories (but WAY more greek myth stories bc they are more metal). also my wife takes them to church on sunday (maybe once a month) so i can either sleep in or start on a house project. she thinks it is a good way to be a part of the community, but im not sure the tradeoff is there bc i think church sucks ass (boring).
I like this approach.

I also think it's important for kids to understand the bible, it's moral system and be able to make use of some allegories from it. So much of the modern western world is predicated on a Christian world view. IMO the modern atheist gives Christianity too much power/credence by being afraid of it.

I also think that the community that comes from church is valuable and atheism doesn't have a corresponding equivalent.
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
so you're being good out of fear of jail? Doesn't sound like you're naturally a good person. Why does being a prick bother you? You were probably taught that.
I think you're responding to me with a post someone else made, but anyway duh. Of course I was taught that. We were all taught things. And it's more than what I was taught, I generally feel bad if I'm an ass to someone because I have emotions just like anyone else.

Now sure, there are things I don't do because of jail or getting a ticket, like going 90 on the highway. That's the same for everyone. Everyone knows underage drinking is bad, but how many 18 year olds do it anyway? Are they bad people now?
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Fair enough but you seem to have forgotten

The crusades 1-3 million over 3 centuries

Jihad ..countless millions over centuries

The holocaust ...millions

Armenian genocide

Native American genocide

French Protestant vs catholics

Witch hunts

Etc etc
I would dispute that the holocaust was religiously motivated. If anything, it was anti-religious and atheistic in nature. Nationalism and racism seemed to be the big factors.

Again, even if counting the holocaust, add all them up, and you still get the death toll way higher than that of atheistic regimes. The numbers given only included 1 type of state atheism for only 3 regimes. Socialism and Marxist-Leninism have their own body counts as well.

I don't want to belabor the point, because you can look this up for yourself if you are truly interested in it.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
So what you're saying is that both religious and non-religious people can be evil, yes? Which is what I have found to be true in modern life.
What I'm saying is that fear of God saves lives.
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Im back, question to the Athiest do you also doubt the power of the law of attraction?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Guys guys, let's not fight over who killed more people! Everybody is good at killing people!Humanns gon human forever mane.
That's why we need God.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Im back, question to the Athiest do you also doubt the power of the law of attraction?
You come back, don't respond to anything, and this is what you post?
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post 1543112681 02-07-2018, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
I would dispute that the holocaust was religiously motivated. If anything, it was anti-religious and atheistic in nature. Nationalism and racism seemed to be the big factors.

Again, even if counting the holocaust, add all them up, and you still get the death toll way higher than that of atheistic regimes. The numbers given only included 1 type of state atheism. Socialism and Marxist-Leninism have their own body counts as well.

I don't want to belabor the point, because you can look this up for yourself if you are truly interested in it.
As long as we agree that both religious and non-religious people commit heinous acts against humanity, which they undisputedly do, then trying to point out which "side" has been worse over history is nothing more than an exercise in saying "I'm a better person because I'm religious" or "I'm a better person because I'm atheist" . It serves no purpose other than patting yourself on the back for the choice you have made.
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post 1543112711 02-07-2018, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
That's why we need God.
Uh, God condones lots of killing. You're not about to do that thing where you preach to me and start quoting bible verses are you? I've been Christian longer than I've been atheist, you won't be telling me anything I haven't heard before.
Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
As long as we agree that both religious and non-religious people commit heinous acts against humanity, which they undisputedly do, then trying to point out which "side" has been worse over history is nothing more than an exercise in saying "I'm a better person because I'm religious" or "I'm a better person because I'm atheist" . It serves no purpose other than patting yourself on the back for the choice you have made.
Exactly. "Our side did wrong, but yours didmorewrong so we win!"

Sounds like an argument a child would make.
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post 1543112791 02-07-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
You come back, don't respond to anything, and this is what you post?
He's an idiot with seemingly little control over where his mind wanders. Either that or he's a troll. Go look at the flat earth thread to see how out of touch with reality BlackJack619 really is.
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post 1543112841 02-07-2018, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
You come back, don't respond to anything, and this is what you post?
I am the capitan of this thread, I will steer the helm where I please.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
That's why we need God.
Now this is funny. You can't be serious, can you?
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post 1543113001 02-07-2018, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I think you're responding to me with a post someone else made, but anyway duh. Of course I was taught that. We were all taught things. And it's more than what I was taught, I generally feel bad if I'm an ass to someone because I have emotions just like anyone else.

Now sure, there are things I don't do because of jail or getting a ticket, like going 90 on the highway. That's the same for everyone. Everyone knows underage drinking is bad, but how many 18 year olds do it anyway? Are they bad people now?
My bad if it didn't apply to you I was skimming. Just my point was I wether live in a religious society than a secular one due to the implementing of a moral system. Which when I was a atheist I lacked. Feel like evil would creep into a secular society easier. Also there should be no drinking minimum age. No speed limit either just a fast and slow lane.
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So do you guys also doubt the power of the law of attraction?
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post 1543113181 02-07-2018, 01:24 PM
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I believe what the bible says who God is and the bible says God is every thing and everyone, so lack of believing in God makes me think you lack the belief in your self and to attract your desires of this world
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
So do you guys also doubt the power of the law of attraction?
Nope. Magnets of opposite poles certainly do attract each other.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
So do you guys also doubt the power of the law of attraction?
i pretty much doubt anything you say bawse i mean you think the earth is flat. there's no comin back from that tbh.
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I too agree most religious organization are corrupt and lead their flock astray.
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
My bad if it didn't apply to you I was skimming. Just my point was I wether live in a religious society than a secular one due to the implementing of a moral system. Which when I was a atheist I lacked. Feel like evil would creep into a secular society easier.
There is no punishing evil in society though, only law. You can be an azzzhole all day long, but punch someone in the face and that's an assault charge. The culture would dictate how nice everyone is to one another, and religion =/= nice. Now the way we practice Christianity currently is nice, but it was not always so benevolent. Did the Bible change? No. Society did.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
i pretty much doubt anything you say bawse i mean you think the earth is flat. there's no comin back from that tbh.
i don't want you to trust in me I want you to trust in yourself and dig down and find your own answers.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
Just a thought. I don't expect to change your mind. Just some food for thought.

I would think that if someone wanted to murder someone, but didn't, because their faith forbade it, I would think religion has done its job.

Atheistic regimes have accounted for far more deaths than all the religious wars combined.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
Just a thought. I don't expect to change your mind. Just some food for thought.

I would think that if someone wanted to murder someone, but didn't, because their faith forbade it, I would think religion has done its job.

Atheistic regimes have accounted for far more deaths than all the religious wars combined.
Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
I think it's fair to ask for sources:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass...munist_regimes

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[2][dubious ] There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

Compare to the Spanish Inquisition:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass...munist_regimes

"According to Llorente, over the course of its history, the Inquisition processed a total of 341,021 people, of whom at least ten percent (31,912) were executed. He wrote, "To calculate the number of victims of the Inquisition is the same as demonstrating, in practice, one of the most powerful and effective causes of the depopulation of Spain."[34]The principal modern historian of the Inquisition was an American from Philadelphia, from a Quaker family, Henry Charles Lea (1825 - 1909), author of History of the Inquisition of Spain, Vol 1. (1888) considered that these totals, not based on rigorous statistics, were very exaggerated."

"It is likely that the total would be between 3,000 and 5,000 executed. "
Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
I would dispute that the holocaust was religiously motivated. If anything, it was anti-religious and atheistic in nature. Nationalism and racism seemed to be the big factors.

Again, even if counting the holocaust, add all them up, and you still get the death toll way higher than that of atheistic regimes. The numbers given only included 1 type of state atheism for only 3 regimes. Socialism and Marxist-Leninism have their own body counts as well.

I don't want to belabor the point, because you can look this up for yourself if you are truly interested in it.
You have every excuse available as to why Christians are morally superior to nontheists, and you certainly aren't afraid to use them. A simple question about atheists having Children and you point to Hitler, Stalin and Mao?

Let me ask you a simple question (though I know what the answer is different to depending on what context is being used). Is the USA a country founded on Christian principles and by and large a Christian nation with by and large Christian leaders?
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If you guys have Netflix watch the movie called "the secret" it's non religious but it dives into the law of attraction which I believe religions should be preaching, but for some reason most do not
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
i don't want you to trust in me I want you to trust in yourself and dig down and find your own answers.
thas what im doin and have did my whole entire life. that's what i was doing when my mama would try to take me and my brother to church and we would take turns faking sick because church is boring as fuk compared to pretty much any sunday morning television. my soul deep down was telling me that church was wack, you know?
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