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Thread: Trump prepares $200B of additional tariffs on China

post 1555955011 07-10-2018, 10:57 PM
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Some of you think a trade war is good. But we will see how the Evey day American feels about it once this thing really gets rolling. Maybe you're right, but this you play the game. We will know for sure which way the country sways on this.
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
Couldnt agree more. Its awesome to see wages for blue collar workers rise so quickly.....isnt it?
It’s all good except now I can’t hire enough people even after bumping wages up about 30% last 2 years because the labor market is so tight that I can’t sleep lol


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The labor market is tigher than I’ve seen in 20 years


Brb paying someone 45k a year that made near min wage 3 years ago
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
Some of you think a trade war is good. But we will see how the Evey day American feels about it once this thing really gets rolling. Maybe you're right, but this you play the game. We will know for sure which way the country sways on this.
Brah dont worry about it. $570 tax is nothing for individual tax payers. The economy is so hot, we cant even absorb all the jobs which is why wages are ramping up to offset teh $570 tax.

Seriously...you gonna feel a $570 tax when your wages went up .005%? lulz.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
What do you believe the solution is then? How do you counter or contain China?
In b4 a drawn out response that's basically all boiled down to "talk to them."

LOL
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
It’s all good except now I can’t hire enough people even after bumping wages up about 30% last 2 years because the labor market is so tight that I can’t sleep lol
Brb paying someone45k a year that made near min wage 3 years ago
$45k for a no skill job is serious.

Can you post your job advertisement on here? I know some misc boyos are looking for jobs. There are alot of hard working blue collar conservatives on this forum working min wage that would love to make $45k/yr for a min wage job that requires very little skils.
post 1555955411 07-10-2018, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
What do you believe the solution is then? How do you counter or contain China? Not everything is roses when people are forced to face the music.
You punk them like we are now with a back off plan later.



Let it be known - we can be trade partners but don’t treat us like a little bish - just every once in a while
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
In b4 a drawn out response that's basically all boiled down to "talk to them."

LOL
Dude...seriously would like your feedback. You seem like an all american boyo. What are your thoughts on the Apple product you are using? Not only is the iOS superior, its pretty nice buying a product and seeing the profits flow to america. I saw some dude using a Samsung phone and I was all I could do to not rage at him for being a traitor. Who the phuck would buy a phone from a foreign company?
post 1555955541 07-10-2018, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
$45k for a no skill job is serious.

Can you post your job advertisement on here? I know some misc boyos are looking for jobs. There are alot of hard working blue collar conservatives on this forum working min wage that would love to make $45k/yr for a min wage job that requires very little skils.
You're smugness just oozes through every single post.
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
$45k for a no skill job is serious.

Can you post your job advertisement on here? I know some misc boyos are looking for jobs. There are alot of hard working blue collar conservatives on this forum working min wage that would love to make $45k/yr for a min wage job that requires very little skils.
I have tried to recruit before via pm with a few brahs I know, but no right now I can’t.


Rules and legal policy - and don’t really want to associate my rhetoric here at work.


I wouldn’t call it “low skill” necessarily - But you don’t need any education for it....
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This isn't gonna be good for the stock market...
post 1555955671 07-10-2018, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
You're smugness just oozes through every single post.
Pretty sure he knows what I do



That is marky isn’t it?
post 1555955861 07-10-2018, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
You're smugness just oozes through every single post.
Dude...seriously would like your feedback. You seem like an all american boyo. What are your thoughts on the Apple product you are using? Not only is the iOS superior, its pretty nice buying a product and seeing the profits flow to america. I saw some dude using a Samsung phone and I was all I could do to not rage at him for being a traitor. Who the phuck would buy a phone from a foreign company?

Ive seen those smug mofos toting around korean phones.
post 1555955891 07-10-2018, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
Dude...seriously would like your feedback. You seem like an all american boyo. What are your thoughts on the Apple product you are using? Not only is the iOS superior, its pretty nice buying a product and seeing the profits flow to america. I saw some dude using a Samsung phone and I was all I could do to not rage at him for being a traitor. Who the phuck would buy a phone from a foreign company?
How cute do you think you are with the snarky comments? Both of us know some things you HAVE to buy that are manufactured out of the USA.

Business taxes and regulations were cut in an attempt to level the playing field. Still doesn't make us even when other countries essentially have indentured servitude but it's better. And this is also why we're trying to make things right with tariffs.

But you know this and are being the definition of a smug liberal.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I wouldn’t call it “low skill” necessarily
So you were paying min wage for a job that wasnt low-skill? Why would you phuck over your fellow americans like that?

Edit: Were you hiring illegals to do the job? I cant imagine any moderately skilled american agreeing to do a skilled job for minimum wage.
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Manufacturing jobs are at a 10 year high

“Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it," Obama said.
"He just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that?What magic wand do you have?And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”
post 1555956151 07-10-2018, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
So you were paying min wage for a job that wasnt low-skill? Why would you phuck over your fellow americans like that?
Just above minn yes



The law of supply and demand is with labor as well as any other cost



There was a very high labor supply with a lower labor demand



That coupled with our company pivoting our strategy regardless to beating our competition significantly with wages at equivalent jobs as compared to staying right at or below like we did for years
post 1555956341 07-10-2018, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
So you were paying min wage for a job that wasnt low-skill? Why would you phuck over your fellow americans like that?

Edit: Were you hiring illegals to do the job? I cant imagine any moderately skilled american agreeing to do a skilled job for minimum wage.
Aaaand right on cue the liberal comes in and changes the subject from the tariff discussion.
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...hinese-imports



This will be a disaster for both sides. It's like Trump is looking for a trade war.
Lol looking for a trade war? Morons like you fail to see that we've been in a trade war for decades. We only decided to respond to it because Trump has the balls to fight back.



It's like ever since china entered the WTO our trade imbalance has exploded with them. Wonder why...
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^^^ also no on illegals question

2009-2015 what is the biggest cakewalk labor market in my career
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Just above yes
The law of supply and demand is with labor as well as any other cost
There was a very high labor supply with a lower labor demand
Thats weird. I have been part owner of a engineering company and I have always paid well above minimum wage to american workers for moderately skilled jobs. Im trying to figure out why a fellow american business owner would screw over their fellow americans by paying them the same wage as a McDonalds worker....for a moderately skilled position.

So your FTE costs (not counting benefits) went from ~$15k to $45k in <3yrs? that is a 300% increase in labor costs. Not even touching FUTA (6%), SUI, etc. So lets say $55k for overhead purposes...zero benefits...370% increase for moderate skilled FTE's. WE all know the lowest level FTE has an inflationary effect on higher level FTE's...we can delve into that later. What were your margins 3yrs ago?
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Originally Posted By ichBinBerliner⏩
Thats weird. I have been part owner of a engineering company and I have always paid well above minimum wage to american workers for moderately skilled jobs. Im trying to figure out why a fellow american business owner would screw over their fellow americans by paying them the same wage as a McDonalds worker.

So your FTE costs (not counting benefits) went from ~$15k to $45k in <3yrs? that is a 300% increase in labor costs. Not even touching FUTA (6%), SUI, etc. So lets say $55k for overhead purposes. What were your margins 3yrs ago?
Brah I just don’t trust you enough to go into that kind of detail

I will say 2015-2016 was the most significant spike in our companies long history as far as labor cost goes it was a complete strategy pivot
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I keep seeing it reported by MSM that Trump impossing tariffs will only hurt the American people.

So if this is true... why are other countries retaliating and imposing new tariffs of their own?

By imposing those new tariffs on America, aren't they hurting their own people?
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
I keep seeing it reported by MSM that Trump impossing tariffs will only hurt the American people.

So if this is true... why are other countries retaliating and imposing new tariffs of their own?

By imposing those new tariffs on America, aren't they hurting their own people?
It’s overall a stupid idea for both sides
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Originally Posted By Peter
Trump is an idiot. He should just continue to let China bend us over with our current trade deals. Not fuking serious!

It l's funny to see some people losing their minds over Trump working to create a fair deal between the U.S and other countries. Do all of you really hate America that much? Don't even bother responding with "no" because we know you're lying.
When all they do is watch the MSM, this is what happens. They are sheep.

Sit back and relax, let them cry and watch other countries bend the knee.
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
I keep seeing it reported by MSM that Trump impossing tariffs will only hurt the American people.

So if this is true... why are other countries retaliating and imposing new tariffs of their own?

By imposing those new tariffs on America, aren't they hurting their own people?
They hurt the Chinese. The Chinese retaliate by hurting Americans. That’s how they get hurt.

In short, the RoW can bring a lot more pain to the streets of America than the reverse so the net hurt is bad.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Brah I just don’t trust you enough to go into that kind of detail

I will say 2015-2016 was the most significant spike in our companies long history as far as labor cost goes it was a complete strategy pivot
lol...that kind of detail?! This is the most generic information ever.

So your largest FTE overhead increased 2015-2016...and not 2017-2018? That makes no sense. The economy was crap back then. Plus you said 3 yrs ago you were paying $15k for the lowest skilled FTE employed. Yet today you are unable to fulfill same positions for $45k.

You started offering $45k for moderately skilled positions with no secondary education back in 2015...and there has been zero inflationary impact on those FTE positions since then?

Sorry brah...doesnt add up.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
It’s overall a stupid idea for both sides
Then why are they doing it (srs question).

If there isn't any domestic economic advantage to tariffs, why are other countries retaliating? Why not just let Trump hurt his own country?
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
They hurt the Chinese. The Chinese retaliate by hurting Americans. That’s how they get hurt.
So if Chinese tariffs hurt Americans, why are people objecting to Trump addressing the tariffs placed on American manufacturers prior to his election?

Again... serious question.

Seems from an outsiders perspective that the argument is something like this: "We lost the trade war to China in the 1990s. Let's just accept defeat and bow our heads in shame for our new Chinese overlords."
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Omg, I’m so dependent on Chinese imports
How will the USA self sustain without?
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Omg, I’m so dependent on Chinese imports
How will the USA self sustain without?
Scary thing is how much of your debt they own. They hold massive leverage over the US because you guys are so deep in debt.
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