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Thread: Trump Considering Immediately Pulling Out of Afghanistan

post 1569157451 12-20-2018, 04:34 PM
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fukkin hilarious watching the TDS radical left in here flip around and start supporting endless wars in the ME
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post 1569157491 12-20-2018, 04:34 PM
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post 1569158451 12-20-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
fukkin hilarious watching the TDS radical left in here flip around and start supporting endless wars in the ME
They've supported full scale war ever since CNN started feeding them bullchit about Assad gassing orphanages years back.

#madampresident wanted boots on the ground to SLAY Assad
post 1569158641 12-20-2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
What? It will happen sooner or later.

With the way Iran is behaving it is inevitable IMO.
You mean internal strikes? Economic protests?

https://www.aei.org/publication/more...gime-protests/

Whats your criteria? If assassinations and terrorist attacks are on there you might want to talk to Irans Saudi neighbors on the other side of the Persian Gulf.

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post 1569161481 12-20-2018, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf⏩
You mean internal strikes? Economic protests?

https://www.aei.org/publication/more...gime-protests/

Whats your criteria? If assassinations and terrorist attacks are on there you might want to talk to Irans Saudi neighbors on the other side of the Persian Gulf.
You know very well what my criteria is.
Still mindblown by your overnight transformation from refugee in Germany to Boltons incestual sister overnight srs
1.) I'm not in Germany as a refugee. I have explained things about my background plenty of times. The "refugee in Germany" chit was an attempted insult thrown at me by two Turkish gypsies on the forum as well as some other people who simply didn't like my views at the time. I was, however, a liberal, until recently.

2.) My transformation from liberal to conservative wasn't "overnight". It happened gradually, in stages.

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post 1569161971 12-20-2018, 05:32 PM
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post 1569162621 12-20-2018, 05:38 PM
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6 trillion dollars, a million dead. Nothing accomplished. Why do Americans have the memory span of a gold fish? Causing a giant mess every 15-20 years. Just long enough for the next generation to enlist.
post 1569164411 12-20-2018, 06:01 PM
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liberals and the media just love wars nothing new cuz MURICA

GTFO of the middle east. the us shouldnt be there in the first place.
post 1569166001 12-20-2018, 06:21 PM
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post 1569166151 12-20-2018, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By jfcantu⏩
Alternatively: he got into office and realized that the situation is way more complicated than that, then Trump got into office and didn't care that the situation is way more complicated than that.
Ding ding
post 1569167151 12-20-2018, 06:37 PM
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post 1569167221 12-20-2018, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By ceizer1985⏩
Ding ding
More like he got into office and got leaned on by John O Brennan and Hillary Rodham Clinton who were both proponents of regime change and nation building.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/gregorydjoh...spy-and-obamas
How did the candidate of hope and change turn into the president of secret kill lists, drone strikes hitting civilians, and immunity for torturers? The answer may lie in his relationship with the CIA director, a career bureaucrat turned quiet architect of a morally murky national security policy who isn't going to let a little thing like getting caught spying on the Senate bring him down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/m...me-a-hawk.html
How Hillary Clinton Became a Hawk
Throughout her career she has displayed instincts on foreign policy that are more aggressive than those of President Obama — and most Democrats.
post 1569167481 12-20-2018, 06:42 PM
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Once it became clear we were never going to neutralize Pakistan (and this was obvious by 2002), it was clear the Afghan mission was doomed because Pakistan would keep backing the insurgency and funneling jihadis across their huge shared border. You can’t pacify Afghanistan without taking on Pakistan. Simple as that.

In 2002 when it was obvious that Pakistan was never going to be dealt with, we should have pulled out of Afghanistan right then. All the US and allied deaths since 2002 were completely unnecessary.
post 1569169031 12-20-2018, 06:58 PM
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Yanking all the boys (and girls) out of Afghan and Syria is a great idea. Hopefully the minds in charge of the retrograde get everyone home safely ffs
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
We've been there almost 20 years.
this. we've been trying to help out afghanistan for almost 20 years and they still cant get their chit together. the truth is that they dont want chit to change and want it to remain status quo. the minute it gets better, we stop sending them money, hence it's in their best interest to keep the war going
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post 1569169631 12-20-2018, 07:08 PM
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Damn, liberals are really bloodthirsty aren't they.

I'm sure if we stayed another 10 years a democratic Muslim government would be flourishing!!
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post 1569169701 12-20-2018, 07:08 PM
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but but John Bolton is a war hawk.. they said
post 1569169981 12-20-2018, 07:13 PM
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Why do liberals want the US to be the world police and support endless war?

When Bush was President, libs kept crying about pulling out troops. When McCain ran against Obama and said he'd keep troops in the ME for over 100 years, libs said he was a warhawk.

Trump pulls the US out of the ME and libs now want more troops to stay there endlessly to die for zog
post 1569170081 12-20-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Boxman⏩
Once it became clear we were never going to neutralize Pakistan (and this was obvious by 2002), it was clear the Afghan mission was doomed because Pakistan would keep backing the insurgency and funneling jihadis across their huge shared border. You can’t pacify Afghanistan without taking on Pakistan. Simple as that.

In 2002 when it was obvious that Pakistan was never going to be dealt with, we should have pulled out of Afghanistan right then. All the US and allied deaths since 2002 were completely unnecessary.
Pakistan's population in 2002 was 150 million and now its over 200 million. If usa couldn't do anything back then, gl in the future when both of these countries are only getting bigger in population. read somewhere that like 75% of afghanistan is now controled by the tali.
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Lol at all the Trumpers in here trying to trash libs for wanting never ending wars. Funny, I didn't hear ANY of you complaining we're in the ME until lord emperor Trump made a knee-jerk decision to get us out. Weird.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Lol at all the Trumpers in here trying to trash libs for wanting never ending wars. Funny, I didn't hear ANY of you complaining we're in the ME until lord emperor Trump made a knee-jerk decision to get us out. Weird.
Seems legit
post 1569171301 12-20-2018, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By BalkanKing⏩
Pakistan's population in 2002 was 150 million and now its over 200 million. If usa couldn't do anything back then, gl in the future when both of these countries are only getting bigger in population. read somewhere that like 75% of afghanistan is now controled by the tali.
Indeed - Pakistan is a massive population (and they have nukes).

All the more reason to pull out.
post 1569171911 12-20-2018, 07:40 PM
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The Afghanis have officially defeated both the Soviets and the U.S.

Hate it or love it but this is a complete surrender. Insurgents control 60% of the country according to data on the ground, the largest amount since the war began.

Congratulations, the entire war and lives were a total waste. Bush should be thrown in jail, and same thing with Obama for prolonging the inevitable. Trump at least recognized the reality that it’s lost. No need to blame Trump here, U.S. tried and failed for 18 years to make sense of that puzzle.

Kabul will be Saigon 2.0 come 2020.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
I think everyone would like us out of the ME. But is this really the way to do it? And what are the ramifications if we do?
Surely you can't be this stupid. Surely.
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Originally Posted By BalkanPrince⏩
The Afghanis have officially defeated both the Soviets and the U.S.

Hate it or love it but this is a complete surrender. Insurgents control 60% of the country according to data on the ground, the largest amount since the war began.

Congratulations, the entire war and lives were a total waste. Bush should be thrown in jail, and same thing with Obama for prolonging the inevitable. Trump at least recognized the reality that it’s lost. No need to blame Trump here, U.S. tried and failed for 18 years to make sense of that puzzle.

Kabul will be Saigon 2.0 come 2020.
Yeah it's damn near unwinnable unless we went full on total war in which case it wouldn't really be a country after, just some glassed terrain with a few surviving goats lol

Stupid fukking war/10
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Lol at all the Trumpers in here trying to trash libs for wanting never ending wars. Funny, I didn't hear ANY of you complaining we're in the ME until lord emperor Trump made a knee-jerk decision to get us out. Weird.
You were so busy reee'ing and shilling for HRC in the election that you obviously missed how one of Trump's biggest foreign policy attractions was his stance on these ME wars and how they're stupid af and we could've rebuilt our whole fukking country with the trillions wasted on them. I remember when he straight up called Iraq a mistake/fuk up that shoudn't have happened on the stage at a early RNC debate and the crowd was shocked, lol. Was a new thing for a repub to come out and say it like that, basically pissing all over Bush.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Lol at all the Trumpers in here trying to trash libs for wanting never ending wars. Funny, I didn't hear ANY of you complaining we're in the ME until lord emperor Trump made a knee-jerk decision to get us out. Weird.
This goes both ways. I didn’t see anyone on the left saying we need to stay in the ME until Trump decided he wanted to pull out the troops.
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