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Thread: February 15, 2019 is the official day the United States died

post 1573717371 02-15-2019, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Border control is a national security issue, and exclusively handled on the Federal level. There is no real argument that the border situation isn't a national emergency, and been that for a long time.
How the heck are the Dems even going to argue against it? BRB bring in every freaking border expert to say we need a wall. BRB bring in every statistic that says how much it costs the taxpayer. BRB bring in ICE. lol, are Dems even for the country anymore?
post 1573717441 02-15-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Random260⏩
I couldn’t care for the little concession he made.

Instead of trading full daca for the full wall we on need to do that. He fulfilled his campaign of building the wall.

Also a national emergency overrides anything on the bill so he can build wall anywhere’s.
This. He didn't give the DACA, and will use the emergency to fund the wall. But apparently its the end of the US. lol
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post 1573717961 02-15-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah⏩
Vote dem vs vote Trump again? Choice is easy
Going all in on Trump in 2020 seems risky.

Might want to leave a little room for another conservative.
post 1573718131 02-15-2019, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Isn’t the stuff in this bill only temporary until the end of September? I think I heard them say something like this yesterday.
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post 1573718991 02-15-2019, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
This. He didn't give the DACA, and will use the emergency to fund the wall. But apparently its the end of the US. lol
The most important thing right now is to get a physical barrier up. If R's need to concede things to get that done, I'll accept that fact. That barrier wall will stop a tremendous amount of illegals.
post 1573719181 02-15-2019, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
President AOC
Blatant trolling like this should be bannable.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Going all in on Trump in 2020 seems risky.

Might want to leave a little room for another conservative.
post 1573719711 02-15-2019, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
The most important thing right now is to get a physical barrier up. If R's need to concede things to get that done, I'll accept that fact. That barrier wall will stop a tremendous amount of illegals.
Look forward to the excuses in a few years when the change in the effects of illegal immigration due to more border fencing turns out to be statistically insignificant. It sure feels good though.

The idea that the wall is just step one of a sequential plan to immigration reform is a fukking joke.
post 1573719871 02-15-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
LOL yeah, I'd vote Trump over another Bush too. I have higher expectations but what the fuk do I know.
post 1573719961 02-15-2019, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
The most important thing right now is to get a physical barrier up. If R's need to concede things to get that done, I'll accept that fact. That barrier wall will stop a tremendous amount of illegals.
One of the major incentives for coming here, the lack of any punishment for breaking laws is now gone.

The states would handover illegals to be deported, No big deal, they just come back anyway.

Now they have to serve a sentence for whatever crime they commit because they will no longer be deported.

Id rather have an illegal's freedoms taken away like any other criminal than for them to be deported and come back a week later.
MAGA One day at a time.
post 1573720211 02-15-2019, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson⏩
2020 is a toss up and he can get secondwind from 2016 but 2024 is where it should be impossible to get a so-called America First POTUS due to demographs and the shifting political waters in the US. The curtain has been raised, the lines drawn and the waters muddied to a point everybody is just itching to get at their own side, let alone the opposition.

The Dems & RINOs dont need to be taken seriously. All they're doing is transitioning the country into something so terrible I doubt anybody has an idea what will become of it.

Cant even get people to agree on what a wall with security personnel can actually do let alone national issues with immigrants from SA, Africa and the ME being bussed and flown in by the thousands every month. An object cannot stop a country's people and its leaders committing national suicide if they just go around it.
We were already going to be screwed in 2024 though.

Neither party will let an outsider do this again. They lost control of the Presidency. That's what this entire Mueller special investigation is about. They'll bankrupt anyone associated with Trump to send a message to people in the future not to support a non-establishment candidate.
post 1573720871 02-15-2019, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
We were already going to be screwed in 2024 though.

Neither party will let an outsider do this again. They lost control of the Presidency. That's what this entire Mueller special investigation is about. They'll bankrupt anyone associated with Trump to send a message to people in the future not to support a non-establishment candidate.
Tough to say. I thought Perot was the last outsider who would even get a sniff at the presidency, and yet Trump actually won.

The real danger is the censorship on the internet. Before the Web, there were just the 3 big networks giving us news, along with the big newspapers. Right now, the internet and social media is turning fully Leftist.
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post 1573721251 02-15-2019, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Tough to say. I thought Perot was the last outsider who would even get a sniff at the presidency, and yet Trump actually won.

The real danger is the censorship on the internet. Before the Web, there were just the 3 big networks giving us news, along with the big newspapers. Right now, the internet and social media is turning fully Leftist.
Yup, the marxists control everything, including the minds of our young. It's dire.
post 1573721301 02-15-2019, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
This!!!!! Slow and steady wins the race. Jeb told me this.
So what if vegas places him a shared third last on potential winners, i still believe in the guac bowl merchant.

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post 1573723301 02-15-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
A nation with most powerful and advanced military in the history of mankind ended without a single shot ever being fired.
I tried to warn you guys about Trump and no one listened.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong

Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
post 1573723741 02-15-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
I tried to warn you guys about Trump and no one listened.
You still don't know what you are talking about.

You take every irrelevant passing opportunity to say the same thing over and over again, and you still don't understand whats happening here.
MAGA One day at a time.
post 1573723931 02-15-2019, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
It's the slippery slope technique they use in the EU...

There will be some distraction in Sept with the media and they will amend it and it will slip through

They push to see what people will tolerate, people forget about it then they push it further until all liberty stripped away.

Blackpill yourself everyone.
Hate to admit it, but your almost definitely correct. Fuked I tell you
post 1573724551 02-15-2019, 12:38 PM
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post 1573725171 02-15-2019, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
The most important thing right now is to get a physical barrier up. If R's need to concede things to get that done, I'll accept that fact. That barrier wall will stop a tremendous amount of illegals.
Its my understanding that the 55 miles included in this bill is the sole discretion of mayors, etc of the counties it runs thru, meaning don't count on it.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Its my understanding that the 55 miles included in this bill is the sole discretion of mayors, etc of the counties it runs thru, meaning don't count on it.
How does the national emergency impact this though?
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post 1573728671 02-15-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
How does the national emergency impact this though?
I have no idea?

As I stated in a previous post, those who wrote/passed this bill are all against Trump declaring an emergency and assumed he probably would do so anyways to save face. So, it would make sense they put language in there specifically meant for the SC, knowing it would make its way there in order to neuter him even further.
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It is too early to panic and declare the country dead.

The bill is terrible but it is temporary and a win politically. Pelosi said Trump would not get $1 for the wall. He in fact got $1.3 billion for the wall plus he is going after several other billion with the emergency declaration.

The country will not be won or lost with a single bill. These are all small battles in a larger war.
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Originally Posted By sawoobley⏩
It is too early to panic and declare the country dead.

The bill is terrible but it is temporary and a win politically. Pelosi said Trump would not get $1 for the wall. He in fact got $1.3 billion for the wall plus he is going after several other billion with the emergency declaration.

The country will not be won or lost with a single bill. These are all small battles in a larger war.
How is it a win politically? He gets 1.3 Bil for a wall he'll never be authorized to put up in the first place
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
I have no idea?

As I stated in a previous post, those who wrote/passed this bill are all against Trump declaring an emergency and assumed he probably would do so anyways to save face. So, it would make sense they put language in there specifically meant for the SC, knowing it would make its way there in order to neuter him even further.
Yes, but the funds Trump gets from declaring a national emergency is a different pool than this congressional budget bill. They were only offering 1.6 bill anyway, while he's getting 8 billion with the emergency.

Simple put, Congress(including the GOP) had no intention of funding the wall. So this was the best option. I view Trump as an Independent president with no real party backing at this point.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
He also set the precedent that campaign promises that can't get through Congress can be declared a national emergency, paving the way for President AOC to declare national emergencies for gun control, nationalized healthcare, free college, wealth seizure from the rich, and a whole host of other stupid socialist crap that would never pass Congress. So there's that, too.
The federal reach of the government doesn't work that way at all.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Simple put, Congress(including the GOP) had no intention of funding the wall. So this was the best option. I view Trump as an Independent president with no real party backing at this point.
100%

If we want a real 3rd party, Trump might be the best option for a 2020 run under a new banner. Might be political suicide though....
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
paving the way for President AOC to declare national emergencies for gun control....
Lol yep

NB4"But the constitution says..."

If you seriously think the Democrats care about what the construction says, your crazy. They'd probably just amend it if it's a road block for their agenda and call it a day.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Tough to say. I thought Perot was the last outsider who would even get a sniff at the presidency, and yet Trump actually won.

The real danger is the censorship on the internet. Before the Web, there were just the 3 big networks giving us news, along with the big newspapers. Right now, the internet and social media is turning fully Leftist.
The real danger is changing demographics. Texas is going blue in the not so distant future. Everything else is a symptom of that underlying disease.
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Originally Posted By tng83⏩
Blatant trolling like this should be bannable.
It's a hypothetical but it's clear that as soon as she reaches the appropriate age shes gonna run
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Lol yep

NB4"But the constitution says..."

If you seriously think the Democrats care about what the construction says, your crazy. They'd probably just amend it if it's a road block for their agenda and call it a day.
You think people are going to give up their 2nd amendment rights willingly? Some people might welcome the revolution that would ensue.
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