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post 1555977131 07-11-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
The problem is Trump is once again wrong. Germany’s energy is obtained mainly from sources other than Russian gas. In fact, according to the B B C, Germany uses gas for less than 20% of its energy and of that 20%, Russia supplies 50-75%. So Russian gas accounts for no more than 15% of German energy. Why does Trump keep spreading misinformation?
I think he means that most of the oil from Russia is going through Germany....

You guys are getting all worked up over numbers but Trump's point is to expose the hypocrisy over the whole deal of what's going on. The whole point of NATO is supposed to be to protect Europe from Russia but instead Europe is dependent on Russia.

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UK and US needs to team up and go in dry on Cuckmany like the good ol' days. Uk brahs need to find their balls though, Brexit was a good start, keep the momentum!
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post 1555977381 07-11-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Fact check comments?!?!? Who does that anymore?
I know, right. I fact most statements by politicians, and every statement made by error-prone Trump.

Just this morning he showed a lack of knowledge of how NATO works. He wondered if NATO countries would reimburse the US for not meeting their 2% GDP commitment to NATO when no such reimbursements are part of the program. He also foolishly claimed some countries are delinquent in payments to NATO when no such payments are part of the NATO program. He is unbelievably uninformed on the world around him.
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post 1555977411 07-11-2018, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By paul_v⏩
I think he means that most of the oil from Russia is going through Germany....

You guys are getting all worked up over numbers but Trump's point is to expose the hypocrisy over the whole deal of what's going on. The whole point of NATO is supposed to be to protect Europe from Russia but instead Europe is dependent on Russia.

I’m not getting worked up about anything. I’m just pointing out Trump is a fool.
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post 1555977431 07-11-2018, 08:15 AM
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This is going to be one of the greater points in the history of European American foreign-policy.


Long overdue and sooooo much needed.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
I know, right. I fact most statements by politicians, and every statement made by error-prone Trump.

Just this morning he showed a lack of knowledge of how NATO works. He wondered if NATO countries would reimburse the US for not meeting their 2% GDP commitment to NATO when no such reimbursements are part of the program. He also foolishly claimed some countries are delinquent in payments to NATO when no such payments are part of the NATO program. He is unbelievably uninformed on the world around him.
Well...they have to spend 2% of their GDP on THEIR OWN military, which is a NATO agreement...so he is sort of right. The delinquent payments are also related to what they must spend on their own military, which again is a NATO agreement, but its not money that goes to NATO itself.

In my opinion, like everything else with him, the general intent and message is appropriate (whether or not you agree with his tone) - they are not holding up their end of the bargain on military spending - but the facts and details are woefully wrong and foolish.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
This is going to be one of the greater points in the history of European American foreign-policy.


Long overdue and sooooo much needed.
Our president verbally attacking our allies and making himself look wholly uneducated while doing so is a great point in history? We clearly differ on this for I think Trump is just reinforcing to the world how much of an ignorant fool he is.
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post 1555977801 07-11-2018, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
UK and US needs to team up and go in dry on Cuckmany like the good ol' days. Uk brahs need to find their balls though, Brexit was a good start, keep the momentum!
This. Germany needs a reminder of what happened the last time they stepped out of line.
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post 1555977851 07-11-2018, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Well...they have to spend 2% of their GDP on THEIR OWN military, which is a NATO agreement...so he is sort of right. The delinquent payments are also related to what they must spend on their own military, which again is a NATO agreement, but its not money that goes to NATO itself.

In my opinion, like everything else with him, the general intent and message is appropriate (whether or not you agree with his tone) - they are not holding up their end of the bargain on military spending - but the facts and details are woefully wrong and foolish.
I agree with him that other countries should be meeting their spending commitments. I just wish he didn’t come across as a 9th grader when trying to make his point. He would get more respect and cooperation from the rest of the world if he acted like a knowledgeable adult IMO.
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post 1555977891 07-11-2018, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Our president verbally attacking our allies and making himself look wholly uneducated while doing so is a great point in history? We clearly differ on this for I think Trump is just reinforcing to the world how much of an ignorant fool he is.
To make an omelet you have to crack a few eggs, breh. It's nice for once to have a president with balls and the willingness to wield American influence instead of apologizing for it.
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post 1555978401 07-11-2018, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
I agree with him that other countries should be meeting their spending commitments. I just wish he didn’t come across as a 9th grader when trying to make his point. He would get more respect and cooperation from the rest of the world if he acted like a knowledgeable adult IMO.
That is his presidency in a nutshell. I voted libertarian, I despise the Clintons, but I couldn't vote for Trump because of that. I agree with his instincts and 30,000-foot view of the situation (pun intended) on most issues but his persona and 7-year old temperament drive me crazy. Well, sometimes I enjoy seeing the uproar in Washington he causes (as the Joker says in the OG Batman, "This town needs an enema!")...but it irks me with foreign diplomacy for sure.

That being said at this point I am going to vote for him in 2020 if he maintains his level of crazy and the left continues to move their crazy further into the land of rabid lunacy.
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When are Germans going to realize that the only thing they're good at is manufacturing high quality products?

They're clearly useless and not to be taken seriously on any political front... Especially with that walrus chancellor they have.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Jesus its painful to listen to him talk. Just repeats himself over and over like a babbling idiot.
The irony
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They just need a revitalization of German spirit and national identity. Must suck living your entire life while the state constantly pounds into you how guilty you should feel about the Holocaust, and that third-world people wouldn't be suffering were it not for the evil white man - and to that end that Germany does not belong to the German people, but rather to the poor, the sick and the desperate.

There is a fiercely intelligent beast hiding deep down within every German. It'll just require a lot of excavation to bring it to the surface.
post 1555979441 07-11-2018, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Our president verbally attacking our allies and making himself look wholly uneducated while doing so is a great point in history? We clearly differ on this for I think Trump is just reinforcing to the world how much of an ignorant fool he is.
You've never called out your best friends when they are doing something wrong?
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post 1555979781 07-11-2018, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By paul_v⏩
You've never called out your best friends when they are doing something wrong?
Sure I have. But, unlike Trump, I use actual, real, verifiable facts when making my arguments. Unlike Trump I try not to make things up. This way friends take me seriously and don’t consider me a lunatic.
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post 1555979871 07-11-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Sure I have. But, unlike Trump, I use actual, real, verifiable facts when making my arguments. Unlike Trump I try not to make things up.
Maybe you could start doing that on this forum too
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Maybe you could start doing that on this forum too
So edgy
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post 1555980601 07-11-2018, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Sure I have. But, unlike Trump, I use actual, real, verifiable facts when making my arguments. Unlike Trump I try not to make things up. This way friends take me seriously and don’t consider me a lunatic.
LOL Good point... either way people just need to get used to Trump's leadership style.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
This is going to be one of the greater points in the history of European American foreign-policy.


Long overdue and sooooo much needed.
I agree. I LOVE that a US pres finally has the balls to put his foot down and stay firm. Calling out european hipocrasy should have been done LONG ago and Im glad to see that we have a guy that's staright up telling it how it is. All the people in this thread whining"but his numbers are wrong it
s not 70%" are idiots, the number isnt important its the BLANTANT hiposcrisy and the FACT that the strongest EU member is at least partially DEPENDENT on Russia for energy needs, while also condemneing them as the devil of modern day.

Trump's style is working, I used to and still cant stand the way he talks, but Ill be damned if he istn GETTING CHIT DONE. Im full on board with trump at this point and want to see him win a second term, for the good of my country.
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Originally Posted By paul_v⏩
LOL Good point... either way people just need to get used to Trump's leadership style.
People do need to get used to it. It's effective and he's not going anywhere.
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
Verbally attacking?
Being honest and calling it how it is is considered verbally attacking to that guy. EU is our friends, are you not supposed to call out good friends when they're full of chit and palying both sides? Of course you are, thats what good friends do. You dont continue to turn a blind eye and pretend it's all good, if you're a true friend.
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
Lauren was not allowed to enter the UK for her presence not being “conducive to the public good", it has nothing to do with muslims. She travels to other countries and incites hatred and this is why NZ and Aus want to ban her.

She should keep her sloot ass in Canada and preach her bullchit there.
Yah ok....nothing to do with islam..

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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/lauren...terrorism-act/

Please explain how she spews bull****. She is on point.
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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩
Being honest and calling it how it is is considered verbally attacking to that guy. EU is our friends, are you not supposed to call out good friends when they're full of chit and palying both sides? Of course you are, thats what good friends do. You dont continue to turn a blind eye and pretend it's all good, if you're a true friend.
Trump lied about German energy and you’re claiming he was honest?
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
I didn't hear his counterpart pointing out any lies.
Trump claimed Germany had gotten rid of nuclear and coal. Both false. He claimed that Russian gas was 60%+ of German energy sources. False.

Just because Merkel didn’t directly call him out means nothing.

Most people find it helpful to use facts when trying to make a point. Trump, not so much. He was dishonest in his arguments.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
He said dealing with Russia would be easier than dealing with the UK yesterday too.
Lol @ the UK
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Originally Posted By Dontoewsmebro⏩
As a duel citizenship of Germany and USA..Trump is a dictator for sure why do you think he's loving these meetings with Kim Jong, and soon Putin..Then he will fool the U.S. that it was a great meeting? lol make america great again.
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