Log In

Your email is not your username

Register

If you were a member of the old Bodybuilding.com forums and would like to reuse your previous username, you can request it below. We use your email only for registration and do not store it. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy.

Confirm your email

A registration code was sent to your email. Enter it here.

Welcome

You have successfully setup your account.

Sign in

Quick Navigation Bottom Misc
Forum » More General Categories » Religion and Politics » Breaking: US House approves funding bill with $5.7bn for Trump's border wall
  1. Results 91 to 120 of 187
  2. Page 4 of 7
  3. First
  5. 2
  6. 3
  7. 4
  8. 5
  9. 6
  11. Last

Thread: Breaking: US House approves funding bill with $5.7bn for Trump's border wall

post 1569178171 12-20-2018, 09:06 PM
-
#91
  1. Cleveland33
  2. Registered Gooner
  1. Cleveland33
  2. Registered Gooner
  3. Join Date: Jan 2010
  4. Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
  5. Posts: 66,951
  6. Rep Power: 497612
Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
bold move nancypants
Wait did he get banned?
post 1569178391 12-20-2018, 09:10 PM
-
#92
  1. deepfat
  2. A Great American
  1. deepfat
  2. A Great American
  3. Join Date: Apr 2006
  4. Location: California, United States
  5. Posts: 12,755
  6. Rep Power: 73593
Originally Posted By Clinos⏩
Didn't realize my rep power could red someone, thank you for the opportunity.
In this instance, Nolibs is right. I slag on that guy as much as anyone but sometimes he has nuggets of rational thought.
*SillieBazzillie isn't that bad of a guy Crew*
*STEM Master Race*
*Fly Navy Crew*
*Always Pick 5 Crew*
*STL Cardinals/Blues/MIZ-ZOU Crew*
post 1569178641 12-20-2018, 09:13 PM
-
#93
  1. iabs
  2. General
  1. iabs
  2. General
  3. Join Date: Jan 2010
  4. Posts: 22,709
  5. Rep Power: 156138


6:50-8:20 for maximum LOLs!!!
300 Forever
post 1569178651 12-20-2018, 09:13 PM
-
#94
  1. KT667
  2. Registered User
  1. KT667
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jul 2011
  4. Age: 35
  5. Posts: 3,038
  6. Rep Power: 3824
there is 10.6 billion!!!! in the bill to give to central american countries and mexico as well but they cant give up 5 billion for US border security???

my mind is full of **** fuk politicians
post 1569179141 12-20-2018, 09:21 PM
-
#95
  1. Fishman15
  2. Ultra Dark MAGA
  1. Fishman15
  2. Ultra Dark MAGA
  3. Join Date: Jan 2013
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 28,514
  6. Subscribers: 3
  7. Rep Power: 328678
Originally Posted By KT667⏩
there is 10.6 billion!!!! in the bill to give to central american countries and mexico as well but they cant give up 5 billion for US border security???

my mind is full of **** fuk politicians
Yup, just more proof it has nothing to do with the cost of the wall. Not a damn thing. Just more Orange Man Bad!
Hey Timmy, show us on the boy doll where the tampon goes...
post 1569179391 12-20-2018, 09:24 PM
-
#96
  1. NYPat
  2. Registered User
  1. NYPat
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2010
  4. Posts: 43,432
  5. Rep Power: 198579
Originally Posted By KT667⏩
there is 10.6 billion!!!! in the bill to give to central american countries and mexico as well but they cant give up 5 billion for US border security???

my mind is full of **** fuk politicians
Isn't it weird how mr. tiny hands, art of the deal can't get that little bit of money?
post 1569179531 12-20-2018, 09:28 PM
-
#97
  1. deepfat
  2. A Great American
  1. deepfat
  2. A Great American
  3. Join Date: Apr 2006
  4. Location: California, United States
  5. Posts: 12,755
  6. Rep Power: 73593
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Isn't it weird how mr. tiny hands, art of the deal can't get that little bit of money?
You should take your L like a man...or a woman...or tranny. Whatever.
*SillieBazzillie isn't that bad of a guy Crew*
*STEM Master Race*
*Fly Navy Crew*
*Always Pick 5 Crew*
*STL Cardinals/Blues/MIZ-ZOU Crew*
post 1569179711 12-20-2018, 09:31 PM
-
#98
  1. Foxmulder0
  2. Registered User
  1. Foxmulder0
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Nov 2016
  4. Age: 36
  5. Posts: 9,406
  6. Rep Power: 64242
Originally Posted By iabs⏩


6:50-8:20 for maximum LOLs!!!
lmfao

I tell you what man, trump calls it like it is. Cocky, brash New Yorker ; he knows what he’s doing.

“Don’t mess with the bull, you’ll get the horns.”
Truth is out there
post 1569180071 12-20-2018, 09:38 PM
-
#99
  1. iabs
  2. General
  1. iabs
  2. General
  3. Join Date: Jan 2010
  4. Posts: 22,709
  5. Rep Power: 156138
Originally Posted By Foxmulder0⏩
lmfao

I tell you what man, trump calls it like it is. Cocky, brash New Yorker ; he knows what he’s doing.

“Don’t mess with the bull, you’ll get the horns.”
How has that utterly imbecile woman been in politics and getting re-elected for 32 years is beyond my level of coping with human stupidity.
300 Forever
post 1569180341 12-20-2018, 09:46 PM
-
#100
  1. dakensta
  2. bad ass
  1. dakensta
  2. bad ass
  3. Join Date: Aug 2008
  4. Posts: 25,983
  5. Rep Power: 111067
inb4 $2bn is spent on a bit of wall 10 miles long, the rest "goes missing", but we get to see footage of the same bit of wall over and over until we're sick of it and stop caring.
GO LOCAL SPORTSBALL TEAM

*** Pureblood Master Race ***

*** Official Misc Photography Crew ***
post 1569180371 12-20-2018, 09:47 PM
-
#101
  1. LukeLissen
  2. 📶 🔌🔋 99%
  1. LukeLissen
  2. 📶 🔌🔋 99%
  3. Join Date: Mar 2013
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 27,092
  6. Rep Power: 192151
Originally Posted By KT667⏩
there is 10.6 billion!!!! in the bill to give to central american countries and mexico as well but they cant give up 5 billion for US border security???

my mind is full of **** fuk politicians
Money is taken from American citizens by our 'government' to be given to foreign countries.

I wonder if China does that?
post 1569180471 12-20-2018, 09:48 PM
-
#102
  1. ghostfacedup
  2. Registered User
  1. ghostfacedup
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Apr 2005
  4. Posts: 16,948
  5. Rep Power: 80672
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Isn't it weird how mr. tiny hands, art of the deal can't get that little bit of money?
Is that all you got? You've been proven to be a total fail on this topic.
post 1569181511 12-20-2018, 10:02 PM
-
#103
  1. Haste007
  2. Registered User
  1. Haste007
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: May 2012
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 1,405
  6. Rep Power: 5930
Have they already figured out the plan for building the wall sections that are located on private property? I would have to guess those sections would get tied up long enough in court to never get built.
Clash of Clans
Teams: LA Rams , LA Lakers, STL Blues
post 1569183081 12-20-2018, 10:26 PM
-
#104
  1. Clinos
  2. polk high #33
  1. Clinos
  2. polk high #33
  3. Join Date: Apr 2013
  4. Posts: 11,503
  5. Rep Power: 112757
Originally Posted By Haste007⏩
Have they already figured out the plan for building the wall sections that are located on private property? I would have to guess those sections would get tied up long enough in court to never get built.
Probably not. The border, I believe, isn't really on the imaginary line at some points I think there is a set back so there is room to work in. For the other stuff the government will purchase, overbid, underbid, land grab, condemn, or emanate domain the rest. It's a nasty side of U.S. history but unfortunately necessary at a border point.
Ndtha ton eda yi'mg oIng tofi

Sm2sm crew []-[]-[]--Squat Moar to Squat Moar[]-[]-[]

Unlawful possession of a raccoon
post 1569183281 12-20-2018, 10:30 PM
-
#105
  1. Random260
  2. Registered User
  1. Random260
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Mar 2014
  4. Age: 28
  5. Posts: 847
  6. Rep Power: 998
Originally Posted By Haste007⏩
Have they already figured out the plan for building the wall sections that are located on private property? I would have to guess those sections would get tied up long enough in court to never get built.
Supreme Court ruled on it a few months ago. It went something like it’s the governments land (from memory). But it is all clear to be built
post 1569183751 12-20-2018, 10:39 PM
-
#106
  1. Chargr
  2. ok.
  1. Chargr
  2. ok.
  3. Join Date: Jan 2011
  4. Location: Los Angeles, California, United States
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 2,632
  7. Rep Power: 5358
5 BILLION Just to please Trumps ego. Such a waste of funds.

A wall won't fuking stop immigrants, most of them just use tunnels, boats and planes to fly.
post 1569183761 12-20-2018, 10:39 PM
-
#107
  1. wesleysh21
  2. Registered User
  1. wesleysh21
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2006
  4. Location: South Carolina, United States
  5. Age: 47
  6. Posts: 19,701
  7. Rep Power: 161302
Originally Posted By Clinos⏩
Probably not. The border, I believe, isn't really on the imaginary line at some points I think there is a set back so there is room to work in. For the other stuff the government will purchase, overbid, underbid, land grab, condemn, or emanate domain the rest. It's a nasty side of U.S. history but unfortunately necessary at a border point.
Yeah, it definitely makes sense to be able to use imminent domain at the border. A private citizen shouldn’t have the ability to dictate who can and can’t come across the border, it should be protected by the government.
ALL I ASK IS ALL YOU GOT FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES
post 1569184521 12-20-2018, 10:50 PM
-
#108
  1. SWDeath
  2. Custom User Title
  1. SWDeath
  2. Custom User Title
  3. Join Date: Oct 2018
  4. Posts: 6,412
  5. Rep Power: 37010
Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
inb4 $2bn is spent on a bit of wall 10 miles long, the rest "goes missing", but we get to see footage of the same bit of wall over and over until we're sick of it and stop caring.
I doubt this will be like the clinton haitian relief fund.
MAGA One day at a time.
post 1569184871 12-20-2018, 10:58 PM
-
#109
  1. CalmWind
  2. Yeshua is Messiah
  1. CalmWind
  2. Yeshua is Messiah
  3. Join Date: Sep 2012
  4. Location: Florida, United States
  5. Posts: 27,975
  6. Rep Power: 143687
The midterm results dont happen until a couple months from now.

GOP still controls House and Senate at this moment.
Ave Christus Rex

Toxic Masculinity crew.
Pureblood crew.
Wholesome crew.
post 1569185141 12-20-2018, 11:07 PM
-
#110
  1. Clinos
  2. polk high #33
  1. Clinos
  2. polk high #33
  3. Join Date: Apr 2013
  4. Posts: 11,503
  5. Rep Power: 112757
Originally Posted By wesleysh21⏩
Yeah, it definitely makes sense to be able to use imminent domain at the border. A private citizen shouldn’t have the ability to dictate who can and can’t come across the border, it should be protected by the government.
I misspelled that word like 9 times and then gave up, still didn't look right lol.
Ndtha ton eda yi'mg oIng tofi

Sm2sm crew []-[]-[]--Squat Moar to Squat Moar[]-[]-[]

Unlawful possession of a raccoon
post 1569185181 12-20-2018, 11:08 PM
-
#111
  1. dakensta
  2. bad ass
  1. dakensta
  2. bad ass
  3. Join Date: Aug 2008
  4. Posts: 25,983
  5. Rep Power: 111067
Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
I doubt this will be like the clinton haitian relief fund.
Well, let's hope not. I hope you get your wall for $5bn. I have no moral objection to it, and it would be nice to see a politician actually achieve something he said he would for once.
GO LOCAL SPORTSBALL TEAM

*** Pureblood Master Race ***

*** Official Misc Photography Crew ***
post 1569187841 12-21-2018, 12:05 AM
-
#112
  1. zinkhan99
  2. u wot
  1. zinkhan99
  2. u wot
  3. Join Date: Apr 2010
  4. Location: New York, New York, United States
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 10,574
  7. Rep Power: 27439
Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
A literal VIDEO of Trump saying out of his own mouth “I will be the one to shut it down, I'm not going to blame you for it.” Is not going to fool anyone...

LOL, Ok chief.
But he is not the one who will shut it down. God you are dense
post 1569190101 12-21-2018, 01:03 AM
-
#113
  1. LukeLissen
  2. 📶 🔌🔋 99%
  1. LukeLissen
  2. 📶 🔌🔋 99%
  3. Join Date: Mar 2013
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 27,092
  6. Rep Power: 192151
Originally Posted By Chargr⏩
5 BILLION Just to please Trumps ego. Such a waste of funds.

A wall won't fuking stop immigrants, most of them just use tunnels, boats and planes to fly.
badly flawed argument

No one is claiming it's a total solution all by it's lonesome. A wall is unquestionably effective.

Effective border control when you've got a major problem like we do on our southern border requires the wall and surveillance along it, air surveillance, and coast guard surveillance. The wall makes Border Patrol agents' jobs much much easier. It's a part of the whole package and a major part of it.




Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-survey-finds/

Monday, April 2, 2018
Border Patrol agents say they can’t be much clearer: They want more walls along the U.S.-Mexico border.

In a survey conducted by the National Border Patrol Council, the agents’ union, they overwhelmingly supported adding a “wall system” in strategic locations, embracing President Trump’s argument that it will boost their ability to nab or deter would-be illegal immigrants.

Agents also said they need the government to change the “catch and release” policy. They often have to immediately release illegal border crossers they arrest, giving them the chance to disappear into the shadows with the 11 million other illegal immigrants in the U.S.

The findings, shared with The Washington Times, appear to undercut the argument of congressional Democrats, who released a report last month concluding that line agents didn’t support Mr. Trump’s plans for a wall. The report was based on an internal tool used by Homeland Security to evaluate security gaps.

The NBPC’s survey, of more than 600 agents in two of the Border Patrol’s busiest sectors, found just the opposite: A stunning 89 percent of line agents say a “wall system in strategic locations is necessary to securing the border.” Just 7 percent disagreed.

Brandon Judd, president of the NBPC, said that finding directly contradicts a March 22 report by Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, which looked at data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection — the Homeland Security Agency that oversees the Border Patrol — and concluded that agents didn’t want more fencing.


“There are many pieces to the border security puzzle and — contrary to the minority staff report — the survey clearly shows frontline Border Patrol Agents identify a wall system in strategic locations as a vital and necessary piece of the border security puzzle,” said Mr. Judd, who commissioned the survey.

Agents were even more adamant that the catch-and-release policy wasn’t working.

A staggering 95 percent of agents surveyed said the government’s inability to hold illegal immigrants while they await deportation serves as a magnet for still more illegal border crossers.

Under catch-and-release, many caught at the border are processed, given court dates and then released into the communities in the hope that they show up for legal proceedings about deportation. Many of them never show up and instead disappear into the shadows.

The White House held a press briefing Monday calling for changes to curtail catch-and-release. One official said courts have imposed a 20-day limit on holding families that have jumped the border — a virtual guarantee that those illegal immigrants will be released.

“We can’t possibly get a removal order within three weeks, which means we have to release [them] within 20 days,” the official said.

Another official said migrants have learned to game the asylum system by claiming fears of being sent back to their home countries. More than 80 percent of those seeking asylum are granted initial admission to the U.S., giving them a foothold in the country while they await court dates that can be delayed for five years.

The Trump administration demanded that those legal changes, on top of $25 billion more in funding for border security and the wall, be included in this year’s attempt to strike a deal on the DACA program for illegal immigrant Dreamers. Democrats balked at those demands, and none of the major immigration pieces ended up in the final bill.

Of the 1,950-mile border with Mexico, 654 miles are currently protected by a barrier. Mr. Trump’s wall-building plans would bring that total to about 1,000 miles.

Politicizing the wall

All sides used to agree on the efficacy of border fencing, dating back to the bipartisan 2006 Secure Fence Act, which called for a total of 700 miles of the border to be covered by two tiers of fencing. A 2007 law watered down those requirements, leaving the 654 miles of current coverage — about 300 miles of vehicle barriers and 354 miles of pedestrian fencing.

Even as late as 2013, the Senate compromise immigration bill called for completing the 700 miles of fencing envisioned in the 2006 law. Every Democrat in the Senate at the time voted for that bill.

But Mr. Trump’s ascendancy has politicized the wall, and some of those former supporters are now backing away from fencing.

Some Democrats argue that illegal immigration across the border has been reduced so much in recent years that the border is essentially secure, at least from an illegal migration standpoint. Others argue that whatever problems remain, they won’t be solved by the type of wall Mr. Trump envisions.

Last month, Democratic staffers on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee released a report saying Border Patrol agents and their supervisors supported more technology and personnel, but didn’t want a wall, in their border security requests.

The staffers used information from CBP’s “Capability Gap Analysis Process,” which surveys the needs of each Border Patrol station to see what additional tools they want in order to meet their mission of stopping people, drugs and other contraband from crossing illegally.

Of 902 capability gaps identified last year, just 37 referenced a need for fencing or a wall, the Democratic report said.

“Border Patrol agents have rarely recommended building a wall to address the most commonly identified vulnerabilities — or ‘capability gaps’ — along the southwest border,” the Democratic report concluded.

The NBPC’s Mr. Judd said the capability gap process surveys few, if any, of the agents who are patrolling. He had the union undertake its own survey in order to answer definitively the question of what agents want, and he said the results showed they clearly back more border walls.

“What I found was that the minority staff report was nothing more than ‘political crap,’” he said in a statement to The Times. “I’m truly disgusted knowing that the taxpayers had to foot the bill for something that amounted to nothing more than a political hit piece against the president of the United States.”

He called for an investigation into how the Democratic report was written.

Laura Epstein, a spokeswoman for the Homeland security committee Democrats, said their conclusions were based on the data they were given.

“The committee minority staff looked at data provided to the committee by Customs and Border Protection about priorities for strengthening border security,” she said.

She added: “As we have been in the past, we’re eager to continue to work with CBP, NBPC and all stakeholders to ensure that the men and women patrolling the border and working every day to keep our country safe get the resources and support they need to be successful.”

CBP didn’t respond in time for this article, but acting Deputy Commissioner Ronald D. Vitiello said at a press conference last week that agents do want a wall to be added as part of an overall border strategy.

“Our agents and officers have decades of experience, and they know their operational needs,” Mr. Vitiello said.
post 1569192881 12-21-2018, 03:33 AM
-
#114
  1. QuitYourCrying
  2. Registered User
  1. QuitYourCrying
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2016
  4. Posts: 3,531
  5. Rep Power: 10765
Trump is basically pulling a prime "Hulkamania era" Hulk Hogan here.

We thought he was down and out and mere moments from defeat. Then at the last second he starts Hulking-up and demolishes his adversaries.

I was completely ready to give up on him for good, but these past few days have been amazing. Pulling out of endless wars and showing a massive set of balls by demanding the wall and getting funding passed in the house. God Emperor level stuff. Let's see if they remove the filibuster and go for it in the Senate. Hopefully Trump doesn't buckle. Border security what is best for the country. Everyone knows that.
post 1569193741 12-21-2018, 04:28 AM
-
#115
  1. IAMBEE
  1. IAMBEE
  3. Join Date: Jun 2018
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 4,109
  6. Rep Power: 56297
This is surely the end for drumpf!!!!!!111!!!!!
post 1569194111 12-21-2018, 04:44 AM
-
#116
  1. BearyManilowe
  1. BearyManilowe
  3. Join Date: Dec 2013
  4. Age: 36
  5. Posts: 15,220
  6. Rep Power: 130112
Originally Posted By Haste007⏩
Have they already figured out the plan for building the wall sections that are located on private property? I would have to guess those sections would get tied up long enough in court to never get built.
Do you guys know nothing about easements?
***Mariah Carey is my 10/10 Crew***
***Misc Dads Crew***
post 1569195171 12-21-2018, 05:23 AM
-
#117
  1. NYPat
  2. Registered User
  1. NYPat
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Dec 2010
  4. Posts: 43,432
  5. Rep Power: 198579
Originally Posted By bezarker⏩



The House voted 217-185, largely along party lines. The bill now goes to the Senate, where it has almost no chance of passing. Senators already passed their bill to avert a shutdown by extending funds to Feb. 8. It did not include the wall funding.
They passed a clean funding bill after Trump said he would sign it, then they headed home.. but dumb fuking Donald watched too much Fox News and changed his mind. Was he not smart enough to read that many moves ahead? Could he not see that his base would be pissed about this? He obviously couldn't see that Chuck and Nancy played him like bitch.

The Trump admin is in chaos and everyone knows it. It's a dumpster fire within a dumpster fire.
post 1569197281 12-21-2018, 06:21 AM
-
#118
  1. ThePoz
  2. ♕ High Warlord ♕
  1. ThePoz
  2. ♕ High Warlord ♕
  3. Join Date: Jan 2011
  4. Location: Syracuse, New York, United States
  5. Posts: 6,974
  6. Rep Power: 6276
Originally Posted By Chargr⏩
5 BILLION Just to please Trumps ego. Such a waste of funds.

A wall won't fuking stop immigrants, most of them just use tunnels, boats and planes to fly.
How long would it take to spot people filing into a hole in the ground with a drone? The tunnel would need to be miles long to be effective. Boats where? The air space over the United States is actively monitored by the Air Force. F-16s would be deployed if there was unauthorized planes in the sky.

How many people try to cross the boarder on foot? What percentage of these people would be able to attempt an entry by more advanced methods of entry as you suggest?
post 1569197701 12-21-2018, 06:30 AM
-
#119
  1. JoshSP1985
  2. Anti-Circumcision
  1. JoshSP1985
  2. Anti-Circumcision
  3. Join Date: Aug 2009
  4. Location: Franklin, Indiana, United States
  5. Posts: 66,936
  6. Rep Power: 214514
Originally Posted By Haste007⏩
Have they already figured out the plan for building the wall sections that are located on private property? I would have to guess those sections would get tied up long enough in court to never get built.
Yeah man the government has never used private land for anything before, We only built tens of thousand of miles of highway across the country on it.
*PUREBLOOD CREW*
*DAD CREW*
*SUPER STRAIGHT*
*NATURAL DICK CREW*
*CCW*
post 1569199111 12-21-2018, 07:00 AM
-
#120
  1. HoganIsGOAT
  2. Bonafide Stud
  1. HoganIsGOAT
  2. Bonafide Stud
  3. Join Date: Jan 2014
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 22,731
  6. Rep Power: 69277
Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Yeah man the government has never used private land for anything before, We only built tens of thousand of miles of highway across the country on it.
Let's just presume for whatever reason we can't use imminent domain on those areas - a whole lot of border wall is a lot better than no border wall.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.
Quick Navigation Top Misc
« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Bookmarks
Digg.com
Digg
del.icio.us
del.icio.us
Stumbleupon.com
StumbleUpon
Google.com
Google
Facebook.com
Facebook
Posting Permissions
  1. You may not post new threads
  2. You may not post replies
  3. You may not post attachments
  4. You may not edit your posts