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Thread: Statement from Aussie Senator Fraser Anning on NZ shooting

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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩


Jesus... this was his first thought when he heard that 49 people have died
How do you know it was his first thought? I think it was his second.
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Originally Posted By Techriding101⏩
they are just attempting to discuss the part about how certain things going on in the world today could cause an unstable person to decide to go kill a bunch of people
Like when the Saudis flew planes into the World Trade Center as a response to American imperialism in the Middle East?
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I think a LOL is in order here.
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Originally Posted By Techriding101⏩
No one is defending the shooter, they are just attempting to discuss the part about how certain things going on in the world today could cause an unstable person to decide to go kill a bunch of people who are worshiping their religion which says they should be happy if he(the gunner) died.

To stick your head in the ground over every issue is mind-boggling. Because 49 were killed we aren't allowed to talk about Islam? Da fuk kind of sense does that make.

How about this. If you pray to a god that encourages you to kill non-believers and preaches hate and intolerance, it is not unheard of that someone crazy person tries to kill you. It happens daily in the middle east.
You're allowed to talk about whatever you want, but you're also not fooling anyone if you're supposedly against violent ideologies but choose to demonize the victims rather in this case than the shooter and his violent ideology, which is telling...

Like I said before, if a Muslim, the day of an Islamic terrorist attack, went on a tirade about how the West involvement in the ME caused Islamic terrorism, blamed the victims, implied paranoia that there was some imaginary war and this was a pre-preemptive strike instead of criticizing the perp or his ideology: Wouldn't be a stretch to call them a terrorist sympathizer would it? Well same applies here.

It's also telling you think those church goers would all be happy if the shooter died, when I heard he was greeted upon entering (didn't watch the video.) and as far as we know never the victims never harmed anyone.

I don't agree with Islam, but to think all Muslims are blood thirsty savages because they follow Islam is ignorant. Yes I know what it teaches but assuming they ALL want everyone's head is like assuming every Christian has only had sex with their spouse just because that's what's in the Bible.

Picture this, you're at this Mosque and suffer a medical emergency, you think the attendees would rather let you die rather than call for EMT and try to save you? I'm not gonna convince you guys Muslim's can be good, but you can at least admit these victims were better people than those like the shooter - yet look who you're bashing.
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Originally Posted By rhadam⏩
Giant. Fukking. Balls.
no fuktard, the one with the giant ****ing balls is the guy that rushed the white terrorist attacker
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Originally Posted By Tamorlane⏩
Like when the Saudis flew planes into the World Trade Center as a response to American imperialism in the Middle East?
I thought you said that Zionists were behind 9/11?
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Originally Posted By randombrah102⏩
Well if they did that instead of dropping bombs on weddings I think the middle east would definitely be more peaceful right now.
What's your definition of peaceful?
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Originally Posted By randombrah102⏩
Imagine me walking up and slapping your wife around and being like "its cool you would be doing that if I wasn't"
Muslims kill more Muslims than the evil west ever could.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Today was a day I realized exactly where the misc is on things. While it was obvious this place is fukked up, it reached an insanely low level today.

White supremacists are a massive massive threat to security world wide and it won’t change bc no one will address it.
lol, who told you this? CNN
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Originally Posted By dj10show⏩
We're not talking about cops that abuse their power. Look at what happens every time some incel shoots up a school. It's never "an evil white man" narrative. It's "muh mental health awareness" or "ban all de guns" or "we bullied the fuk out of him but never thought he'd do something like this".
You're telling me that people don't start ranting about white people after a mass shooting?
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Today was a day I realized exactly where the misc is on things. While it was obvious this place is fukked up, it reached an insanely low level today.

White supremacists are a massive massive threat to security world wide and it won’t change bc no one will address it.
This. Misc isn't what it was when I signed up. This chit is just sad.
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Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
Radical Muslims Murder 32 Nigerian Christians, Torch Church in Brutal Attack

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/201...C8z-RHR8tPeGiw

Okay guys going by the logic of some the idiots ITT we better not criticize Christianity for a while.
this is why people dont have much sympathy. I see these stories all of the time and they disappear in 10 minutes, yet a few muslims areurdered and the whole world stops. They are running a massive and systematic invasion of the western world. This is the teachings of their religion not just my personal opinion. Some of us recognize it and some of us think muh diversity
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
This. Misc isn't what it was when I signed up. This chit is just sad.
yea and it's gotten far worse since the cult of trump moved in
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
lol, who told you this? CNN
You must have missed what happened in New Zealand recently. I can’t blame you for missing it tho. The media and the misc have successfully shifted the narrative from white supremacy and terrorism to finger pointing at different Muslim communities.
Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
This. Misc isn't what it was when I signed up. This chit is just sad.
Was an awful look for the website today man. I’m glad the mods scrubbed most of it but...boy seeing the chit these guys were saying...sheesh
Originally Posted By Tamorlane⏩
yea and it's gotten far worse since the cult of trump moved in
Trumps narrative made it “okay” to be openly racist again. White supremacists used to March with masks on. Hoods. Secretly hold meetings.

Now they are video taping themselves committing their crimes and marching uncovered. there are undoubtedly miscers among them. Along with college professors, police officers, doctors, etc.

I never want to hear that systematic racism/xenophobia doesn’t exist again.
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Don't agree with the Senator's words......but its amazing how upset people get over them. More reaction to this, than actual attacks
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
You must have missed what happened in New Zealand recently. I can’t blame you for missing it tho. The media and the misc have successfully shifted the narrative from white supremacy and terrorism to finger pointing at different Muslim communities.



Was an awful look for the website today man. I’m glad the mods scrubbed most of it but...boy seeing the chit these guys were saying...sheesh
lol, it's the biggest threat to the world? Let's be realistic how many muslims were murdered by white supremacists in the last year and how many were murdered by other muslims. Or better yet how many Christians were murdered by muslims in the last year.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Trumps narrative made it “okay” to be openly racist again. White supremacists used to March with masks on. Hoods. Secretly hold meetings.

Now they are video taping themselves committing their crimes and marching uncovered. there are undoubtedly miscers among them. Along with college professors, police officers, doctors, etc.

I never want to hear that systematic racism/xenophobia doesn’t exist again.
What does this NZ Senator's letter have to do with Trump or Miscers??? You sound nuts
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
lol, it's the biggest threat to the world? Let's be realistic how many muslims were murdered by white supremacists in the last year and how many were murdered by other muslims. Or better yet how many Christians were murdered by muslims in the last year.
I never said that white supremacy was the biggest threat in the world. Stop lying. And stop putting words in my mouth.

Stop finger pointing and using “whataboutism” like your type ALWAYS does. If tomorrow an ISIS member killed 50 people the thread wouldn’t say “well...what about all the Americans that have killed Americans! Let’s focus on that and not blame Islam!” Would it? So why are you doing it now? White supremacy is an issue that will only get worse bc ppl like you refuse to believe it exists.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
What does this NZ Senator's letter have to do with Trump or Miscers??? You sound nuts
We are on the misc you Imbecile. And he brought up trump so I was commenting on that. Did you see the original thread on this attack? Full of xenophobia and racism. Full of ppl saying they completely understand his ideas. That is what this Australia loser is saying in his letter. The shooter just didn’t have a chitty PR guy clean it up for him before he published it.

That’s disgusting and you know it.

We need to address and acknowledge white supremacy. Period.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Today was a day I realized exactly where the misc is on things. While it was obvious this place is fukked up, it reached an insanely low level today.

White supremacists are a massive massive threat to security world wide and it won’t change bc no one will address it.
How many people do white supremacists kill per year in comparison to how many are killed by jihadists or members of their own race?



Even if 1000 people are killed world-wide by white supremacists per year how does that compare to the hundreds of thousands slaughtered by people of their own race? People in Africa and the middle east have literally been slaughtering each other for decades. Which is why we have mass migration/refugees in the first place. In the grand scheme of things a single white supremacist killing approximately 50 people gets more media attention then 100,000 people being slaughtered by people of their own race. Even if an attack like that would be carried out by WS once per week for an entire year. It still wouldn't compare to the lives taken by Jihad or by civil war every year. Not even close. I'm not trying to say it wasn't horrible. I'm not trying to say a white supremacist aren't a threat. I'm just saying it was only a drop in the bucket compared to the violence that continues on a regular basis.




Your sig says law enforcement. But I have a hard time believing you've spent more then 6 months doing criminal enforcement on the road. By far and large violent crime has little to do with race. Most people victimize/kill someone of their own race. And as far as that goes certain minority groups kill each other every day in America at a much higher rate then other 'racial' groups. White supremacists would represent one of the smallest percentages of 'threats' to society if your going by hard data/how many people they kill per year.



Can you even recall the last time someone with that kind of agenda did an attack like that? The only thing comparable that comes to mind happened in 2011. And it also was not in America.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
We need to address and acknowledge white supremacy. Period.
When muslims kill non-Muslims do you shriek that everyone needs to address muslim supremacists? What about all the other supremacists? Do you demand action on them as well? Why do you fixate on "white" supremacists?
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
We are on the misc you Imbecile. And he brought up trump so I was commenting on that. Did you see the original thread on this attack? Full of xenophobia and racism. Full of ppl saying they completely understand his ideas. That is what this Australia loser is saying in his letter. The shooter just didn’t have a chitty PR guy clean it up for him before he published it.

That’s disgusting and you know it.

We need to address and acknowledge white supremacy. Period.
Great way to get your viewpoint across by calling someone an imbecile. A+

And yes, I saw the threads from yesterday and had posts in them. I also saw the BS cliffs to the thread, you gave towards the end. This thread however.....is about a letter a Senator in NZ wrote. So why are you ITT talking about Trump and Miscers like they had a hand in this tragedy? I find that blaming to be sick and twisted to be honest. No different from the NYU students today, who blamed Chelsea Clinton for condemning Omar's anti-semitic comments a few days ago. I really don't need a sh!tposting liberal to talk about supremacy, many of us have had to deal with this crap in reallife. To you it's a talking point, which is why you're here trying to bait this thread into being deleted like you did the last two.

Many here don't like Islam, many don't like Christianity, many don't like Atheism, many don't like the Left or Right or people in the middle. But why do words on a discussion forum, triggers you so much?
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
You must have missed what happened in New Zealand recently. I can’t blame you for missing it tho. The media and the misc have successfully shifted the narrative from white supremacy and terrorism to finger pointing at different Muslim communities.



Was an awful look for the website today man. I’m glad the mods scrubbed most of it but...boy seeing the chit these guys were saying...sheesh



Trumps narrative made it “okay” to be openly racist again. White supremacists used to March with masks on. Hoods. Secretly hold meetings.

Now they are video taping themselves committing their crimes and marching uncovered. there are undoubtedly miscers among them. Along with college professors, police officers, doctors, etc.

I never want to hear that systematic racism/xenophobia doesn’t exist again.
sorry you said they are a massive massive threat. Yuge difference
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lol, that could have been written by any of the many alt right light who fester here.

It's a good thing no one's ever been harmed by christians or their priests...
Or it could be written by a fascist socialist like you or the shooter who shot up the mosque.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
How many people do white supremacists kill per year in comparison to how many are killed by jihadists or members of their own race?



Even if 1000 people are killed world-wide by white supremacists per year how does that compare to the hundreds of thousands slaughtered by people of their own race? People in Africa and the middle east have literally been slaughtering each other for decades. Which is why we have mass migration/refugees in the first place. In the grand scheme of things a single white supremacist killing approximately 50 people gets more media attention then 100,000 people being slaughtered by people of their own race. Even if an attack like that would be carried out by WS once per week for an entire year. It still wouldn't compare to the lives taken by Jihad or by civil war every year. Not even close. I'm not trying to say it wasn't horrible. I'm not trying to say a white supremacist aren't a threat. I'm just saying it was only a drop in the bucket compared to the violence that continues on a regular basis.




Your sig says law enforcement. But I have a hard time believing you've spent more then 6 months doing criminal enforcement on the road. By far and large violent crime has little to do with race. Most people victimize/kill someone of their own race. And as far as that goes certain minority groups kill each other every day in America at a much higher rate then other 'racial' groups. White supremacists would represent one of the smallest percentages of 'threats' to society if your going by hard data/how many people they kill per year.



Can you even recall the last time someone with that kind of agenda did an attack like that? The only thing comparable that comes to mind happened in 2011. And it also was not in America.
Your response to me saying “stop using whataboutism when a white person commits a crime” was literally completely whataboutism....that is actually incredible. I’m not kidding. You read what I said not to do and said “well...I’m going to do just that. That’ll show him!”

I’ve been doing “criminal enforcement on the road” for 3 years. Well. It’ll be 3 years in June. And I worked corrections before that. I also have a criminal law degree. So I’ve been learning law and enforcing law for literally my entire adult life. Like...actual law. Not just what FOX news, Ben Shapiro and the misc taught me. Don’t question my “credentials” bc I am exponentially smarter than you when it comes to the law, the crimes and the socio-economics relating to them. If you want to have a genuinely intelligent convo about these things we can. But that’s not what you want. You just want to finger point which is why you typed out that incredibly wrong post. A quick google trip will answer your last question though. You’ll see that the white supremacists you refuse to believe exist commit more crimes/attacks than Muslims In this country. Let me know when you discover that.
Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
sorry you said they are a massive massive threat. Yuge difference
You acknowledged you were wrong. Thanks.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
I never want to hear that systematic racism/xenophobia doesn’t exist again.
It does exist. Only you are wrong about the group that is most often targeted. 99.9% of the xenophobia in this world exists in non-white nations. You think Iranians are open to Christian immigrants? How about ****lians? Are they open to non-****li, non-Muslim immigration?

If anything, far too many whites exhibit xenophilia (the opposite of xenophobia).
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Muslims kill more Muslims than the evil west ever could.
And Christians kill more Christians than the evil Muslims ever could.
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I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a fan of certain religous ideologies but this is beyond fuked up imo....jesus.....49 innocent people lost their lives in a place of warship... does it matter what religion they are? Why is every tragedy used to push an agenda? Not cool...
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a fan of certain religous ideologies but this is beyond fuked up imo....jesus.....49 innocent people lost their lives in a place of warship... does it matter what religion they are? Why is every tragedy used to push an agenda? Not cool...
I don't think the terrorist sympathizers like the senator watched the video, not sure how anyone who isn't a vile piece of **** like the shooter can watch that coward massacre defenseless, innocent people and come to the conclusion that the right thing to do is blame those victims.

I know they try to justify it by telling themselves all Muslims are out to get them and therefor deserve it but pick your battles people, this is not the incident to use for your agenda
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
You can be mad at whatever you want. I never hear any outrage from liberals about Muslims killing other Muslims/non-muslims
Sorry chief...not disagreeing with anything you say but just trying to understand why you would bring up muslim violence around the world in this particular situation. I totally agree that there is a total lack of outrage over all the savage attrosities caused by muslims especially towards other muslims but do you think using this tragedy to bring that up is appropriate? You have every right to you're opinion... im just trying to understand your aim.
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Kind of the equivalent of if a christian establishment got shot up and someone's first response is "well the little catholic boys were raped... so in the end they kind of deserved it"

Disgusting.
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