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post 1565717271 11-08-2018, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By rhadam
Bahahahahahaha trying to validate your insensitive attitude just shows how truly ignorant and immature you are. It’s called empathy, you should look it up. Turning a tragedy in to your platform for your hatred of a political party is sickening. How would you like it if one of the dead was your mother or father or your child and someone used their death to further an agenda? You are the worst kind of person and the fact that you are trying to validate it just shows the depth of your toxic mentality. I truly feel sorry for you and anyone else siding with you.
I'm not validating anything. I'm stating facts about this forum.

If you come to this forum expecting prettiness from everyone and then whine angrily when a cynical politically-based comment offends you on a rough-and-tumble politically-based forum, then you've come to the wrong place and the whining is just whining and you're the problem and no one else. That is the nature of this forum and you're either in the wrong place, or you need to adjust your views of this forum and realize what this forum is. This isn't a current events discussion forum. That's the Misc. This is a Religion and Politics forum specifically. If a thread about a breaking current event happens here, then you better expect religious and/or political comments right away.

You will find empathy if you come asking for it here, yes. However if you expect all comments here to never be derogatory, disgusting, offending, or similar then again - you don't understand this forum. This is the WWE of political discussion forums.




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So you find it acceptable to contribute to the problem. Nice.

Part of knowing there is a problem is working to resolve it. I love your justification too, by the way, because majority of the time it's some pro gun enthusiast that responds with "ban guns" when something happens. Rarely is it the leftist crazies that are the first to respond.

Then, the follow up response is "**** your feelings" or whatever the cutsie tagline is. Ironic coming from you, because when you were going through hard times people on this forum helped you and personally called you to help you out.
I don't think there is a problem. I like the forum. We can come here and let it all out and say how we feel.

If someone gets overly emotional and their panties in a wad over politically sarcastic/cynical comments in a thread here in the R&P then they're the problem, no one else - because that is simply the very nature of this forum.

and stop white knighting. It's unbecoming, especially in this forum.

ETA: and as I read further into the thread just now you can see that pretty much the entire thread is political with many comments right alongside the nature of mine with people on both sides of the argument being cynical/sarcastic.
post 1565718101 11-08-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok
Fake. California has tough gun laws, this could never happen in California.
MULTIPLE GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS in bar including off duty cops and an on duty cop.
MORE PROOF that NOBODY HAVING GUNS is MUCH MUCH SAFER THAN EVERYONE HAVING GUNS.
post 1565718601 11-08-2018, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes
This is pretty much already in use. If i privately sell a gun to someone who would not pass a background check, I am liable for prosecution
Which state is this in?
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Originally Posted By Dan_S
And yet, Snopes still says it'strue. Per capita, the US doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. Not even close.

It'd be like if there were only two countries in the world. One with a population of 100, and one with a population of 100million. If there is a single mass shooting in the 100 population country but it kills all 100 people, and there's a mass shooting every month in the 100 million country that kills 5 people every time, which one is safer?

Sure, there are more single incidents in the 100 million population country, but as a whole they're much rarer and less deadly.
Except, just like your example, who is safer in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 between Americans and Norwegians?
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes
I had to google psychotropic drugs because I was unaware what they were...this is mind boggling:



I can see why this is suddenly a buzzword to gun control crowds...
Denying access to firearms for people who had been prescribed these in the past would certainly deny access to millions of Americans...

Even if deservedly so, we could restrict the drugs themselves without infringing on our freedoms and possibly reduce the dependency on prescription drugs
That would be a win for everyone it would seem
Well you would have to fight the gun lobby and big pharma. There is no winning those battles.
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People seriously linking Snopes in here?

That's one guy, who is a piece of **** and a liberal nut.
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Originally Posted By TacticalTaco
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post 1565724741 11-08-2018, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Doxx6755
Why?
This was when I thought the killer was a Muslim Male instead of a White Conservative Male.
This shooting would have helped the Democrats get more seats if it happened before the election.
If the shooter was a Muslim and it happened before the election, then the Republicans would have picked up more seats.
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Originally Posted By Sal29
MULTIPLE GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS in bar including off duty cops and an on duty cop.
MORE PROOF that NOBODY HAVING GUNS is MUCH MUCH SAFER THAN EVERYONE HAVING GUNS.
Sauce on there being multiple guys with guns in the bar?
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post 1565729541 11-08-2018, 01:21 PM
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Disclosure:
I would not support new regulations banning firearms based on cosmetics, capacity, or country of manufacture.
I would support universal background checks.
I don't hunt but have firearms and a CCW permit.

I'm also well enough read on firearms, crime, and mental health, that I could easily debate this subject for hours. But I won't. I'm only posting because I am disappointed in some people expressing a lack of sympathy, and by others expressing the ideas that there's nothing we can do.

If you listen for 4 minutes, you will understand why this woman could lecture me that banning all guns is the only solution, and I would politely listen. But she doesn't say anything like that.

If you listen until the end, you'll be better for it, and you'll realize that sympathy is needed today. Not argument. But also that there's plenty we can do, that we'd all support. Because at the end of the day, none of us want parents to lose innocent children to violence, and because we probably agree on more than we disagree on.

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Originally Posted By TacticalTaco
In the name of Allah 100% guarantee.
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But Don Lemmon told me only white men were terrorists.
Weird.
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I wonder if Don Lemon will go on TV and say the biggest terror threat in this country is middle eastern men.

I doubt it.
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Why is it that these shooters are always known to the police?
post 1565736881 11-08-2018, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Why is it that these shooters are always known to the police?
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Why is it that these shooters are always known to the police?
It's the same with serial killers too.

We gotta start locking these people up again permanently but the ACLU will defend evil people.
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Originally Posted By 7rmr
Except, just like your example, who is safer in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 between Americans and Norwegians?
Brazil banned guns and had over 68,000 murders in 2017.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Why is it that these shooters are always known to the police?
My guess is that the kind of people who plan and execute spree killings have poor empathy, violent tendencies and either a weak grasp of consequences or lack self preservation instincts. Consequently they may be more likely to behave in a socially aberrant manner and thus come to the attention of law enforcement officials.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Why is it that these shooters are always known to the police?
They usually have run in with law due to their mental Illness for small thing and then it escalates.

The real question is...should those who are mentally Ill be allowed to own guns.
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Originally Posted By Godemis
They usually have run in with law due to their mental Illness for small thing and then it escalates.

The real question is...should those who are mentally Ill be allowed to own guns.
These people aren't mentally ill. They are just evil.
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica
My gf (teacher) has had a couple of these classes, had one like a week ago. Do they teach them to rush the shooter and use whatever they have at their disposal to subdue the shooter (hands, legs, claw, grab, etc)?
In a gun free building we were told to use tape and string to secure the doors and hide, and throw markers and chairs at the shooter if he came in the room

I asked could I get my gun from the car and shoot him and was told absolutely not, its gun free.
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Originally Posted By Halfway
In a gun free building we were told to use tape and string to secure the doors and hide, and throw markers and chairs at the shooter if he came in the room

I asked could I get my gun from the car and shoot him and was told absolutely not, its gun free.
LOL

It's safer to throw marker pens at a spree-killer
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Originally Posted By Halfway
I asked could I get my gun from the car and shoot him and was told absolutely not, its gun free.
You wouldn't do that. Quit pretending.
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Originally Posted By randombrah102
Well these posts didn't age well
It's normal to discuss an opinion on adiscussion board. Especially when the news is reporting the shooter is middle eastern. Nobody really cares if they're right or wrong on an assailants race and one cares even less about someone else pretending to be a political guru on a bodybuilding forum or jumping on their high horse acting like a morality king.
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Originally Posted By BigNik78
It's normal to discuss an opinion on adiscussion board. Especially when the news is reporting the shooter is middle eastern. Nobody really cares if they're right or wrong on an assailants race and one cares even less about someone else pretending to be a political guru on a bodybuilding forum or jumping on their high horse acting like a morality king.
Triggered.
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I got in an argument with a college buddy of mine on the California shooting and he told me to **** off lol. I told him to just tell me he wanted an outright ban of firearms and get over it. Somehow I was the inflexible one here.
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes
I had to google psychotropic drugs because I was unaware what they were...this is mind boggling:



I can see why this is suddenly a buzzword to gun control crowds...
Denying access to firearms for people who had been prescribed these in the past would certainly deny access to millions of Americans...

Even if deservedly so, we could restrict the drugs themselves without infringing on our freedoms and possibly reduce the dependency on prescription drugs
That would be a win for everyone it would seem
First off, I am completely against a gun ban. What I am against is allowing mentally and emotionally unstable people from owning a gun. Secondly, I used the psychotropic term loosely. I would disallow people using depression drugs, schizophrenic drugs, and bi polar drugs from owning guns. It would clearly depend on the drug. Everyday ***** is an example of what I wouldnt't include.

And yes, dhawkeye , to answer your neg comment to me "Yea no thats retarded so someone caring for a family member with mental illness should lose their right to self defense? Fukking moron", I would not allow guns in a domicile that houses a mentally unstable person using the psychotropic drugs I mentioned.

Instead of going off on an unhinged tangent, how about responding like an adult? I've said why I don't believe guns should be allowed in homes of mentally unstable people that use certain psychotropic drugs. Clearly you disagree, so why do you believe guns should be in the home of someone that is mentally unstable?
Originally Posted By Noliberals4
These people aren't mentally ill. They are just evil.
Theology and your sky god aside, these people are mentally ill.
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Survivors of this shooting also survived the Las Vegas shootings.
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
First off, I am completely against a gun ban. What I am against is allowing mentally and emotionally unstable people from owning a gun. Secondly, I used the psychotropic term loosely. I would disallow people using depression drugs, schizophrenic drugs, and bi polar drugs from owning guns. It would clearly depend on the drug. Everyday ***** is an example of what I wouldnt't include.

And yes,dhawkeye, to answer your neg comment to me "Yea no thats retarded so someone caring for a family member with mental illness should lose their right to self defense? Fukking moron", I would not allow guns in a domicile that houses a mentally unstable person using the psychotropic drugs I mentioned.

Instead of going off on an unhinged tangent, how about responding like an adult?I've said why I don't believe guns should be allowed in homes of mentally unstable people that use certain psychotropic drugs. Clearly you disagree, so why do you believe guns should be in the home of someone that is mentally unstable?
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
Theology and your sky god aside, these people are mentally ill.
"Mental illness" is an excuse people use to get out of responsibility. It's a way for people to say "Well I am not a crappy person, I'm just mentally ill. I can't help it!" These shooters know full well what they're doing. If they didn't, they wouldn't go through such great lengths to hide it.
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