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12-20-2018, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
Sounds just like the entire Steele dossier. Steele himself admitted that probably more than 50 percent of it was false. Yet you want to give him a medal.The bottom line is that ohiostate posted a fraudulent meme/image, intentionally created to mislead people, was called out on it, didn’t apologize. It doesn’t matter which side you’re on. It’s not okay to lie to further your cause.
12-20-2018, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
this is why russia was so invested in their social media propaganda campaign ^^^I really don't care. People make chit up on this forum all the time. I don't fact check most of it
it works. people see something that supports their world view, they don't fact check it, it shapes their perspective, and even if someone does fact check it, they don't really care.
propaganda works, but only if you're lazy enough to let it.
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12-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
So that means 50% is true (and a lot HAS been verified). That's still a lot of damning evidence.Sounds just like the entire Steele dossier. Steele himself admitted that probably more than 50 percent of it was false. Yet you want to give him a medal.
12-20-2018, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By |ceman⏩
yep it def works which really fcking sucksthis is why russia was so invested in their social media propaganda campaign ^^^
it works. people see something that supports their world view, they don't fact check it, it shapes their perspective, and even if someone does fact check it, they don't really care.
propaganda works, but only if you're lazy enough to let it.
it works. people see something that supports their world view, they don't fact check it, it shapes their perspective, and even if someone does fact check it, they don't really care.
propaganda works, but only if you're lazy enough to let it.
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12-20-2018, 09:16 AM
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This page (page 4) has gone way off topic bros. Let's reign it in.
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12-20-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Uhhh what? AT LEAST 50 percent is false which means that 50 percent is definitely true?So that means 50% is true (and a lot HAS been verified). That's still a lot of damning evidence.
Oh good. Lets say Trump only lies 60 percent of the time he opens his mouth. Let’s all rejoice in the fact that 40 percent of what he says is true.
12-20-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
In this case, it only would have to be 10% true for there to be enough evidence to justify the investigation. It was ALL damning information in the dossier. If it's 40% true, then the 60% that was unverified doesn't invalidate the 40% that is true.Uhhh what? AT LEAST 50 percent is false which means that 50 percent is definitely true?
Oh good. Lets say Trump only lies 60 percent of the time he opens his mouth. Let’s all rejoice in the fact that 40 percent of what he says is true.
Oh good. Lets say Trump only lies 60 percent of the time he opens his mouth. Let’s all rejoice in the fact that 40 percent of what he says is true.
12-20-2018, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
It was funny the first time when it was actually applicable. Big whiff this time.Solid contribution to the topic without taking personal shots. Keep up the good work.
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12-20-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
What has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.In this case, it only would have to be 10% true for there to be enough evidence to justify the investigation. It was ALL damning information in the dossier. If it's 40% true, then the 60% that was unverified doesn't invalidate the 40% that is true.
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12-20-2018, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
You cry more than my neighbours daughter. Her excuse is because she is a toddler.trumpers are tossing all kinds of attacks around. more and more everyday which gives you an idea about how bad things are getting
A grown assed man cant even be coherent on a stupid useless political forum because his King has once again upset his feelings. I would bet every last cent I earn you would flip 180 if Trump suddenly says "troops aren't coming home but infact we are sending 10k more!"
You and your ilk on this forum are all the same.
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12-20-2018, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
Steele never presented the dossier as anything other than a raw intelligence document. Spies aren't in the business of delivering evidence sufficient to prosecute people in the court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. That's not their job. That's not the standard they are trying to meet. Rumor is one of the currencies spies deal in. And there has never been any suggestion to the contrary on the part of Fusion GPS or Steele.Sounds just like the entire Steele dossier. Steele himself admitted that probably more than 50 percent of it was false. Yet you want to give him a medal.
And Steele did not say that probably more than 50 percent was false. That was not what he said.
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12-20-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
it's propaganda coming from the very Russians everyone hatesWhat has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
12-20-2018, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-d...-retrospectiveWhat has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective
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12-20-2018, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
This is what I wrote:You honestly believe the SCOTUS is going to create a special award for Christopher Steele's involvement in the Mueller investigation.
IFChristopher SteeleENDS UPbeing the person responsible for uncovering one of the greatest intelligence disasters to befall the United States, actions on part of the Russian government which made Trump so compromised he effectively became an agent of the Russian government, Christopher SteeleWILL DESERVEbeing awarded both the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal. And the Supreme Court will have to come up with its own type of award recognize Steele's efforts to bolster the Rule of Law within the U.S.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...6547541&page=3And, I don't consider it a realistic possibility. With respect to some sort of SCOUTUS award I was using hyperbole to demonstrate a point. Steele deserves our praise and our thanks. The criticism and hostility directed towards Steele is completely unwarranted. And someone needs to take you guys by the shoulder and wake you up.
Haphazardly and immediately pulling troops out of Syria without consulting his advisors and the military is a warning sign that Trump might be on the take.
Removing Sanctions from Rusal, and letting Oleg Deripaska off the hook is a warning sign that Trump might be on the take.
To say that I don't value your opinion would be a extreme understatement
I don't need you to value my opinion, but everyone else does need you and ohiostate to tell the truth. It's your responsibility to do so, at all times. This is a basic civic duty as far as I'm concerned.Doc had but three redeeming traits. One was his courage; he was afraid of nothing on Earth. The second was the one commendable principal in his code of life, sterling loyalty to friends. The third was his affection for Wyatt Earp.
12-20-2018, 11:11 AM
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12-20-2018, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
Odd that's your stance a week laterI was using hyperbole to demonstrate a point.
And someone needs to take you guys by the shoulder and wake you up.
And someone needs to take you guys by the shoulder and wake you up.
Ironically, the vast majority of the R&P section feels the exact same way about you and yet here we are
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12-20-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Odd that he would use hyperbole but was so against it when people say things like catapulting illegals over the border or shooting the invading migrants on site.Odd that's your stance a week later
Ironically, the vast majority of the R&P section feels the exact same way about you and yet here we are
Ironically, the vast majority of the R&P section feels the exact same way about you and yet here we are
12-20-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
WaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatOdd that he would use hyperbole but was so against it when people say things like catapulting illegals over the border or shooting the invading migrants on site.
Beowulf falsely proclaiming himself king of the moral high ground
Never. I don't believe it
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12-20-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I know, it's shockingWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Beowulf falsely proclaiming himself king of the moral high ground
Never. I don't believe it
Beowulf falsely proclaiming himself king of the moral high ground
Never. I don't believe it
12-20-2018, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...we-know-777116What has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Not proven: Trump was offered real estate deals in Russia and turned them down. (Now verified)
Not proven: Trump's lawyer worked as an intermediary between Trump and Russia. (Now verified)
That's pretty much all of it except the pee-pee tape.
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/likely-false-steele-dossier-faces-new-credibility-challenges-from-cohen-isikoff“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Cohen was an intermediary as in he Google'd 'Russian Kremlin contact info' and emailed the contact link that was on the website?https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...we-know-777116
Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Not proven: Trump was offered real estate deals in Russia and turned them down. (Now verified)
Not proven: Trump's lawyer worked as an intermediary between Trump and Russia. (Now verified)
That's pretty much all of it except the pee-pee tape.
Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Not proven: Trump was offered real estate deals in Russia and turned them down. (Now verified)
Not proven: Trump's lawyer worked as an intermediary between Trump and Russia. (Now verified)
That's pretty much all of it except the pee-pee tape.
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123⏩
Do you know the definition of intermediary?Cohen was an intermediary as in he Google'd 'Russian Kremlin contact info' and emailed the contact link that was on the website?
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123⏩
He believes Trump is a Russian mobster. Don't bother lolCohen was an intermediary as in he Google'd 'Russian Kremlin contact info' and emailed the contact link that was on the website?
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I'm not as well versed about the situation in Syria as some other people on here.
However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
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Originally Posted By Drinman⏩
I wish he'd pull all the troops out. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.I'm not as well versed about the situation in Syria as some other people on here.
However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
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12-20-2018, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Drinman⏩
It was Obama's "wall" in 2008. Obviously, he didn't deliver so now Obummers claim they love ME interventionism and nation buildingI'm not as well versed about the situation in Syria as some other people on here.
However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
obviously you do not.Do you know the definition of intermediary?
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