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post 1569117511 12-20-2018, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
The bottom line is that ohiostate posted a fraudulent meme/image, intentionally created to mislead people, was called out on it, didn’t apologize. It doesn’t matter which side you’re on. It’s not okay to lie to further your cause.
Sounds just like the entire Steele dossier. Steele himself admitted that probably more than 50 percent of it was false. Yet you want to give him a medal.
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Originally Posted By arn710
I really don't care. People make chit up on this forum all the time. I don't fact check most of it
this is why russia was so invested in their social media propaganda campaign ^^^

it works. people see something that supports their world view, they don't fact check it, it shapes their perspective, and even if someone does fact check it, they don't really care.

propaganda works, but only if you're lazy enough to let it.
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post 1569117861 12-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By goody1
Sounds just like the entire Steele dossier. Steele himself admitted that probably more than 50 percent of it was false. Yet you want to give him a medal.
So that means 50% is true (and a lot HAS been verified). That's still a lot of damning evidence.
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Originally Posted By |ceman
this is why russia was so invested in their social media propaganda campaign ^^^

it works. people see something that supports their world view, they don't fact check it, it shapes their perspective, and even if someone does fact check it, they don't really care.

propaganda works, but only if you're lazy enough to let it.
yep it def works which really fcking sucks
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This page (page 4) has gone way off topic bros. Let's reign it in.
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post 1569119331 12-20-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
So that means 50% is true (and a lot HAS been verified). That's still a lot of damning evidence.
Uhhh what? AT LEAST 50 percent is false which means that 50 percent is definitely true?

Oh good. Lets say Trump only lies 60 percent of the time he opens his mouth. Let’s all rejoice in the fact that 40 percent of what he says is true.
post 1569120131 12-20-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By goody1
Uhhh what? AT LEAST 50 percent is false which means that 50 percent is definitely true?

Oh good. Lets say Trump only lies 60 percent of the time he opens his mouth. Let’s all rejoice in the fact that 40 percent of what he says is true.
In this case, it only would have to be 10% true for there to be enough evidence to justify the investigation. It was ALL damning information in the dossier. If it's 40% true, then the 60% that was unverified doesn't invalidate the 40% that is true.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
Solid contribution to the topic without taking personal shots. Keep up the good work.
It was funny the first time when it was actually applicable. Big whiff this time.

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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
In this case, it only would have to be 10% true for there to be enough evidence to justify the investigation. It was ALL damning information in the dossier. If it's 40% true, then the 60% that was unverified doesn't invalidate the 40% that is true.
What has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
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post 1569124261 12-20-2018, 10:23 AM
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Uhhhh Trump campaigned on this. Just mark off another campaign promise he kept.
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4
trumpers are tossing all kinds of attacks around. more and more everyday which gives you an idea about how bad things are getting
You cry more than my neighbours daughter. Her excuse is because she is a toddler.

A grown assed man cant even be coherent on a stupid useless political forum because his King has once again upset his feelings. I would bet every last cent I earn you would flip 180 if Trump suddenly says "troops aren't coming home but infact we are sending 10k more!"

You and your ilk on this forum are all the same.

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Originally Posted By goody1
Sounds just like the entire Steele dossier. Steele himself admitted that probably more than 50 percent of it was false. Yet you want to give him a medal.
Steele never presented the dossier as anything other than a raw intelligence document. Spies aren't in the business of delivering evidence sufficient to prosecute people in the court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. That's not their job. That's not the standard they are trying to meet. Rumor is one of the currencies spies deal in. And there has never been any suggestion to the contrary on the part of Fusion GPS or Steele.

And Steele did not say that probably more than 50 percent was false. That was not what he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ssier-accurate
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post 1569126321 12-20-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
What has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
it's propaganda coming from the very Russians everyone hates
post 1569126571 12-20-2018, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
What has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-d...-retrospective

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective
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post 1569127361 12-20-2018, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710
You honestly believe the SCOTUS is going to create a special award for Christopher Steele's involvement in the Mueller investigation.
This is what I wrote:
IFChristopher SteeleENDS UPbeing the person responsible for uncovering one of the greatest intelligence disasters to befall the United States, actions on part of the Russian government which made Trump so compromised he effectively became an agent of the Russian government, Christopher SteeleWILL DESERVEbeing awarded both the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal. And the Supreme Court will have to come up with its own type of award recognize Steele's efforts to bolster the Rule of Law within the U.S.
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And, I don't consider it a realistic possibility. With respect to some sort of SCOUTUS award I was using hyperbole to demonstrate a point. Steele deserves our praise and our thanks. The criticism and hostility directed towards Steele is completely unwarranted. And someone needs to take you guys by the shoulder and wake you up.

Haphazardly and immediately pulling troops out of Syria without consulting his advisors and the military is a warning sign that Trump might be on the take.

Removing Sanctions from Rusal, and letting Oleg Deripaska off the hook is a warning sign that Trump might be on the take.
To say that I don't value your opinion would be a extreme understatement
I don't need you to value my opinion, but everyone else does need you and ohiostate to tell the truth. It's your responsibility to do so, at all times. This is a basic civic duty as far as I'm concerned.
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post 1569128431 12-20-2018, 11:11 AM
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My friend stationed in Syria says he heard about this but they havent received any critical news.... so basically just another day over there for them no changes yet
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
I was using hyperbole to demonstrate a point.

And someone needs to take you guys by the shoulder and wake you up.
Odd that's your stance a week later

Ironically, the vast majority of the R&P section feels the exact same way about you and yet here we are
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Originally Posted By arn710
Odd that's your stance a week later

Ironically, the vast majority of the R&P section feels the exact same way about you and yet here we are
Odd that he would use hyperbole but was so against it when people say things like catapulting illegals over the border or shooting the invading migrants on site.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Odd that he would use hyperbole but was so against it when people say things like catapulting illegals over the border or shooting the invading migrants on site.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Beowulf falsely proclaiming himself king of the moral high ground

Never. I don't believe it
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Originally Posted By arn710
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Beowulf falsely proclaiming himself king of the moral high ground

Never. I don't believe it
I know, it's shocking
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
What has been verified that justifies all of this nonsense. Be specific.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...we-know-777116
Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Not proven: Trump was offered real estate deals in Russia and turned them down. (Now verified)
Not proven: Trump's lawyer worked as an intermediary between Trump and Russia. (Now verified)

That's pretty much all of it except the pee-pee tape.
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/likely-false-steele-dossier-faces-new-credibility-challenges-from-cohen-isikoff
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...we-know-777116
Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Not proven: Trump was offered real estate deals in Russia and turned them down. (Now verified)
Not proven: Trump's lawyer worked as an intermediary between Trump and Russia. (Now verified)

That's pretty much all of it except the pee-pee tape.
Cohen was an intermediary as in he Google'd 'Russian Kremlin contact info' and emailed the contact link that was on the website?
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123
Cohen was an intermediary as in he Google'd 'Russian Kremlin contact info' and emailed the contact link that was on the website?
Do you know the definition of intermediary?
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Did this thread shift from Syria to the Steele dossier?
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123
Cohen was an intermediary as in he Google'd 'Russian Kremlin contact info' and emailed the contact link that was on the website?
He believes Trump is a Russian mobster. Don't bother lol
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I'm not as well versed about the situation in Syria as some other people on here.

However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
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Originally Posted By Drinman
I'm not as well versed about the situation in Syria as some other people on here.

However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
I wish he'd pull all the troops out. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
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Originally Posted By Drinman
I'm not as well versed about the situation in Syria as some other people on here.

However I find it extremely interesting that as long as I've been alive (29 years) all I've heard from liberals/democrats is how we need to get out of the Middle East and bring our troops back home. It seems like the one thing that Liberals have been pretty consistent about for the past few decades. Now Trump suddenly does that and he is facing a backlash.
It was Obama's "wall" in 2008. Obviously, he didn't deliver so now Obummers claim they love ME interventionism and nation building
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Originally Posted By Kane_89
Do you know the definition of intermediary?
obviously you do not.
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