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03-28-2019, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Do you believe that if Mueller found a crime, any crime against trump, that he would choose not to charge him for it?What? You on that bipolar time?
I'm not making any arguments or insane speculations, just pointing out the basic flaw in your logic.
I'm not making any arguments or insane speculations, just pointing out the basic flaw in your logic.
Be honest. Use everything we know about this investigation.
03-28-2019, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
You should probably exclude details that must be redacted by law.If the White House redacts any information in the Mueller Report, yes I am willing to be banned until 2020. Are you if they don't?
- Information relating to the Grand Jury
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03-28-2019, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
I sincerely hope they "put it out" as is. Lol'd at a Mueller redaction, but I also support full transparency.I do need to make that stipulation since all the heat coming from you is that the Mueller Report will get edited by the White House, I don't think it will. I think they'll put it out "as is". If there is redaction in there right now on part of Mueller, then so be it. I support full transparency though.
03-28-2019, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
A report that doesn't let unindicted people defend themselves against innuendo is a weapon. I'd be saying the same if it was a Clinton report.I sincerely hope they "put it out" as is. Lol'd at a Mueller redaction, but I also support full transparency.
That's why I would only support an IG style report to be released.
I think the questions regarding the start of the case and motivations of those investigation trump should make anyone take the report with a healthy dose of skepticism regarding the narrative. We've already heard of their tactics trying to get people to sign pleas with lies to create a narrative (see corsi, who apparently had his charges dropped when he sued).
03-28-2019, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
Possibly, yes.Do you believe that if Mueller found a crime, any crime against trump, that he would choose not to charge him for it?
Be honest. Use everything we know about this investigation.
Be honest. Use everything we know about this investigation.
Even ignoring the policy of not indicting a sitting president, which is apparently not in play anyways, it would be an extraordinary thing to do. Giving Mueller the benefit of the doubt that he is an experienced person who understands a bigger picture than many, I could see a situation that a crime be deemed too minor to be worthy of the chitstorm that might occur if prosecuted.
Similar judgement calls are made every day in the American judicial system.
03-28-2019, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I think you are the only person in America that honestly believes that. Mueller literally put something that wasn't even a crime (trump using personal funds is now a campaign finance violation? lulz) in Cohen's plea just to tie trump up in something, ANYTHING that would live on beyond his corrupt investigation.Possibly, yes.
Even ignoring the policy of not indicting a sitting president, which is apparently not in play anyways, it would be an extraordinary thing to do. Giving Mueller the benefit of the doubt that he is an experienced person who understands a bigger picture than many, I could see a situation that a crime be deemed too minor to be worthy of the chitstorm that might occur if prosecuted.
Similar judgement calls are made every day in the American judicial system.
Even ignoring the policy of not indicting a sitting president, which is apparently not in play anyways, it would be an extraordinary thing to do. Giving Mueller the benefit of the doubt that he is an experienced person who understands a bigger picture than many, I could see a situation that a crime be deemed too minor to be worthy of the chitstorm that might occur if prosecuted.
Similar judgement calls are made every day in the American judicial system.
But I suppose if we put on our rose tinted glasses and ignore all available evidence and logic, you might be right.
03-28-2019, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
Reading the report for myself could change my opinion.I think you are the only person in America that honestly believes that. Mueller literally put something that wasn't even a crime (trump using personal funds is now a campaign finance violation? lulz) in Cohen's plea just to tie trump up in something, ANYTHING that would live on beyond his corrupt investigation.
But I suppose if we put on our rose tinted glasses and ignore all available evidence and logic, you might be right.
But I suppose if we put on our rose tinted glasses and ignore all available evidence and logic, you might be right.
03-28-2019, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Not to put you down, but I don't think you have the foundation to spot the inconsistencies with available facts and testimony.Reading the report for myself could change my opinion.
It would be like reading a book and guessing if it is based on a true story or not.
03-28-2019, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
I wouldn't argue with that, I don't consider myself highly informed on the details. I probably wouldn't even read the whole thing myself TBH. I should take back that post.Not to put you down, but I don't think you have the foundation to spot the inconsistencies with available facts and testimony.
It would be like reading a book and guessing if it is based on a true story or not.
It would be like reading a book and guessing if it is based on a true story or not.
There are a lot of people who do have the foundation though. I think I could read the fuk out of annotated excerpts and get a pretty good understanding.
03-28-2019, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You’re really close to wanting the whole truth. The mueller report won’t be the whole truth. It will be what mueller wants the report to say. Not to say that he would lie at all. Just that it would be his version of a complex situation that he was meant to narrate with a predetermined ending. Unfortunately for him that ending wasn’t possible so he will limit what he wants to.Reading the report for myself could change my opinion.
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03-28-2019, 11:12 PM
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03-28-2019, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
So there has been absolutely 0 evidence Trump had any Russian deals in regards to presidency. You morons kept saying Muller had secret evidence- but when his report says there is 0 evidence you magically don't believe him? Don't you think he was say something publicly if the AG lied about the contents of his report?they dont trust the FBI, the DOJ, the media, or the dems
but trump's AG is beyond reproach and they gobble up his 4 page summary like its gospel
can you imagine if obama or hillary's attorney issued a 4 page statement interpreting the results of a 2 year investigation saying "No WrOnGdOiNg," refused to release the actual report, and then were like SEEE!
but trump's AG is beyond reproach and they gobble up his 4 page summary like its gospel
can you imagine if obama or hillary's attorney issued a 4 page statement interpreting the results of a 2 year investigation saying "No WrOnGdOiNg," refused to release the actual report, and then were like SEEE!
Lmao windowlickers strike again. How long did you have to stop REEEEEEEEEEing at the sky to make this post?
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03-28-2019, 11:29 PM
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everything about the trump cult is extreme hypocrisy.
Imagine a President Obama or Clinton selling nuclear technology to the Saudis yet you wont hear a peep about it now that their cult leader approved it
Imagine a President Obama or Clinton selling nuclear technology to the Saudis yet you wont hear a peep about it now that their cult leader approved it
03-28-2019, 11:47 PM
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Holy fkin cope. You can now clearly see the TDS victims once the investigation was concluded.
Not to mention that the report itself most likely has summary/conclusion section, and it’s not just Barr summarizing 700 pages.
Rosenstein approved. Mueller doesn’t challenge the summary given to the public. Let’s REeEeEEeeeeee anyway
Not to mention that the report itself most likely has summary/conclusion section, and it’s not just Barr summarizing 700 pages.
Rosenstein approved. Mueller doesn’t challenge the summary given to the public. Let’s REeEeEEeeeeee anyway
03-28-2019, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
Yes he can... and has before, to debunk an inaccurate Buzzfeed story.mueller cant comment publicly on the contents of the investigation, even if barr grossly misinterprets it
03-29-2019, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By drLihp⏩
Obama made 40% more arms deals in the middle east than any president in history.everything about the trump cult is extreme hypocrisy.
Imagine a President Obama or Clinton selling nuclear technology to the Saudis yet you wont hear a peep about it now that their cult leader approved it
Imagine a President Obama or Clinton selling nuclear technology to the Saudis yet you wont hear a peep about it now that their cult leader approved it
Bill Clinton sold nuclear ICBM technology toChina. (after taking $3 million in campaign contributions)
So shut the fuk up until you know what you are talking about.
03-29-2019, 07:39 AM
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Do you guys know what the best part is?
How NyPay, Sillie, Tam, Ari, Gaynz, etc all will read the full report top to bottom wasting hours of their lives just to be disappointed ... again.
lmfao.
How NyPay, Sillie, Tam, Ari, Gaynz, etc all will read the full report top to bottom wasting hours of their lives just to be disappointed ... again.
lmfao.
03-29-2019, 07:46 AM
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03-29-2019, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Completely unlike the hysteria that Russia hackorized the election we've all been subjected to for the past 2.5 years.The spastic fervor to immediately acknowledge Trump's exoneration is fukking retarded.
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03-29-2019, 08:28 AM
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You're right, OP. Much more reasonable to dig in your heals and insist on a massive conspiracy. As if accusing Trump of being a Russian asset wasn't silly enough.
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03-29-2019, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
Well, they actually believed there was a pee pee tape, so...You're right, OP. Much more reasonable to dig in your heals and insist on a massive conspiracy. As if accusing Trump of being a Russian asset wasn't silly enough.
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03-29-2019, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
fukkin lol at thinking they will even look at the full report.Do you guys know what the best part is?
How NyPay, Sillie, Tam, Ari, Gaynz, etc all will read the full report top to bottom wasting hours of their lives just to be disappointed ... again.
lmfao.
How NyPay, Sillie, Tam, Ari, Gaynz, etc all will read the full report top to bottom wasting hours of their lives just to be disappointed ... again.
lmfao.
Gunna be tuning into CNN and MSNBC and reading vox articles about it though, lmfao
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03-29-2019, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Lol at you trying to act tough when you ran from the ban bet i tried to offer you the other dayWhy do you keep trying to put words in my mouth?
The purpose of the SC was to investigate Trump and his cooperation with the Russian involvement in our election, as a result of Trump firing Comey because he wouldn't drop the Russia investigation. This was done by Republicans in a Republican controlled House and Senate.
Mueller completed his investigation, in short time compared to Starr, and released his report.. to Barr. Who was put in place by Trump. For this exact reason.
Release the report.
Oh the "White House". lol
I thought you wanted an actual ban bet.
The purpose of the SC was to investigate Trump and his cooperation with the Russian involvement in our election, as a result of Trump firing Comey because he wouldn't drop the Russia investigation. This was done by Republicans in a Republican controlled House and Senate.
Mueller completed his investigation, in short time compared to Starr, and released his report.. to Barr. Who was put in place by Trump. For this exact reason.
Release the report.
Oh the "White House". lol
I thought you wanted an actual ban bet.
Also, its really strange how the resident libs were all gone when the info about the report came out and all of the sudden, a few days later, they are all back posting up a storm.
03-29-2019, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
Many Trump supporters keep saying the Barr letter completely exonerates Trump, and that because Barr wrote that Mueller could not prove each element of the crime of conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt then that means there is no evidence of any sort of collusion, and that Trump did nothing wrong, and it was all a big hoax.A report that doesn't let unindicted people defend themselves against innuendo is a weapon. I'd be saying the same if it was a Clinton report.
That's why I would only support an IG style report to be released.
I think the questions regarding the start of the case and motivations of those investigation trump should make anyone take the report with a healthy dose of skepticism regarding the narrative. We've already heard of their tactics trying to get people to sign pleas with lies to create a narrative (see corsi, who apparently had his charges dropped when he sued).
That's why I would only support an IG style report to be released.
I think the questions regarding the start of the case and motivations of those investigation trump should make anyone take the report with a healthy dose of skepticism regarding the narrative. We've already heard of their tactics trying to get people to sign pleas with lies to create a narrative (see corsi, who apparently had his charges dropped when he sued).
Trump and many Trump supporters are really emphatic about. They keep repeating it, over and over. No collusion. No collusion.
It sounds as if you don't believe these statements are true.
It sounds like you think Trump did do something that might be embarrassing or reflect poorly upon him.
All the bluster vanishes when we begin speaking about releasing the whole report. Suddenly, we have this excuse, and that excuse, and so on and so forth.
I find that to be very interesting.
It sounds like you believe at least some of what the so-called fake news media has been saying might actually be true, otherwise, why not release the entire report?
If there is no evidence of collusion and Trump did nothing wrong then there is absolutely nothing to fear, right?
It's just like the interview with Mueller. Everyone knows that Trump would not have been able to get through an interview with Mueller without committing perjury. How funny is that? That's how low the bar is with respect to how Trump supporters view Trump.
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03-29-2019, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
1/1000 as funny as the meltdown from the leftMany Trump supporters keep saying the Barr letter completely exonerates Trump, and that because Barr wrote that Mueller could not prove each element of the crime of conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt then that means there is no evidence of any sort of collusion, and that Trump did nothing wrong, and it was all a big hoax.
Trump and many Trump supporters are really emphatic about. They keep repeating it, over and over. No collusion. No collusion.
It sounds as if you don't believe these statements are true.
It sounds like you think Trump did do something that might be embarrassing or reflect poorly upon him.
All the bluster vanishes when we begin speaking about releasing the whole report. Suddenly, we have this excuse, and that excuse, and so on and so forth.
I find that to be very interesting.
It sounds like you believe at least some of what the so-called fake news media has been saying might actually be true, otherwise, why not release the entire report?
If there is no evidence of collusion and Trump did nothing wrong then there is absolutely nothing to fear, right?
It's just like the interview with Mueller. Everyone knows that Trump would not have been able to get through an interview with Mueller without committing perjury.How funny is that?That's how low the bar is with respect to how Trump supporters view Trump.
Trump and many Trump supporters are really emphatic about. They keep repeating it, over and over. No collusion. No collusion.
It sounds as if you don't believe these statements are true.
It sounds like you think Trump did do something that might be embarrassing or reflect poorly upon him.
All the bluster vanishes when we begin speaking about releasing the whole report. Suddenly, we have this excuse, and that excuse, and so on and so forth.
I find that to be very interesting.
It sounds like you believe at least some of what the so-called fake news media has been saying might actually be true, otherwise, why not release the entire report?
If there is no evidence of collusion and Trump did nothing wrong then there is absolutely nothing to fear, right?
It's just like the interview with Mueller. Everyone knows that Trump would not have been able to get through an interview with Mueller without committing perjury.How funny is that?That's how low the bar is with respect to how Trump supporters view Trump.
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03-29-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By DA_MOSS⏩
Yeah, that's because the truth hurts.1/1000 as funny as the meltdown from the left
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
you are correct.. it is factual that the left has melted down in a hilarious wayYeah, that's because the truth hurts.
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